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wdmso 08-18-2022 12:40 PM

Trump Organization: Allen Weisselberg pleads guilty to tax crimes

these are the people the IRS will be going after unless you listen to republicans

wdmso 08-18-2022 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231319)
You guys are amazing...

Do you know how to read? Read my post. I said it was a win for the left it was legit, and a stupid move "IF it was politically motivated".

Can you not grasp what I'm saying there? Is that going too fast for you?

If any Republican said "one plus one equals two", I think some of you would reflexively say he was wrong.

Put down the Kool Aid, take a few breaths, and THINK.


do you ever read your own posts its like you wear flip flops when you type you make one statement then cancel it in your next

I don't think the left ever stops until they get exactly that, and there's probably grounds for one if they never stop digging.. then you move on to another republican talking point " and let's be honest, the left has done that with the DOJ a few times since 2009)" yep that's a honest statement LOL


the left or the DOJ hasn't had to dig once!

trumps dug his own Holes and the democrats are looking in all of them ...

it's only the cult and closet supporters who think. he's the victim:kewl:

Jim in CT 08-18-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1231338)
do you ever read your own posts its like you wear flip flops when you type you make one statement then cancel it in your next

I don't think the left ever stops until they get exactly that, and there's probably grounds for one if they never stop digging.. then you move on to another republican talking point " and let's be honest, the left has done that with the DOJ a few times since 2009)" yep that's a honest statement LOL


the left or the DOJ hasn't had to dig once!

trumps dug his own Holes and the democrats are looking in all of them ...

it's only the cult and closet supporters who think. he's the victim:kewl:

i’ve said the same thing twice. if there was just cause for the raid, good for the left. if it was a politically motivated hit job, bad for the left.

do you even disagree with what i just said?

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Jim in CT 08-18-2022 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1231338)
then you move on to another republican talking point " and let's be honest, the left has done that with the DOJ a few times since 2009)" yep that's a honest statement LOL


m:kewl:

Right wing talking points?

Obamas IRS targeted conservative groups until they got caught

The FBI knowingly deceived the FISA court to get surveillance on Carter Paige. Who, it turns out, didn't do anything wrong. But they didn't tell the court that the Steele dossier was debunked, nor that it was political opposition research. The texts between FBI agents (Strzok and what's her name) showed a clear personal hatred of Trump.

And now Bidens own FBI director, says he deeply concerned with the way the FBI handled the Hunter Biden laptop events.

That doesn't mean that they didn't have every reason in the world to raid Trumps home. But the DOJ has a recent history of allowing itself to be used as a political weapon against the out of power party.

You think it's flip flopping when I say two things can be true at the same time. It's possible that the DOJ has made politically motivated mistakes, and at the same time, it's possible Trump deserved this.

Why do you assume that's flip flopping? Why can't they both be true at the same time? Please explain...

RIROCKHOUND 08-18-2022 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231340)
And now Bidens own FBI director, says he deeply concerned with the way the FBI handled the Hunter Biden laptop events.
..

That is not what Wray said.
From a politico article, which has a bunch of quotes. Wray was concerned about a particular agents social media tweets NOT the FBI investigation.



Wray seemed to raise doubts that Thibault was working at any recent time on issues related to Hunter Biden. The FBI chief said that investigation, reportedly focused on tax issues and potential foreign influence related to Hunter Biden’s business ties, is being run by the Bureau’s Baltimore Field Office, which handles matters related to Delaware.

The Biden administration has permitted Trump’s appointee as U.S. attorney for Delaware, David Weiss, to stay on to complete the probe of the president’s son.

Jim in CT 08-18-2022 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1231341)
That is not what Wray said.
From a politico article, which has a bunch of quotes. Wray was concerned about a particular agents social media tweets NOT the FBI investigation.



Wray seemed to raise doubts that Thibault was working at any recent time on issues related to Hunter Biden. The FBI chief said that investigation, reportedly focused on tax issues and potential foreign influence related to Hunter Biden’s business ties, is being run by the Bureau’s Baltimore Field Office, which handles matters related to Delaware.

The Biden administration has permitted Trump’s appointee as U.S. attorney for Delaware, David Weiss, to stay on to complete the probe of the president’s son.

WHen did Wray say Thibault had no connection whatsoever to Hunter Biden? He was the assistant special agent in charge of the DC office until recently, now he's on leave. Shocker.

Bryan, what does it say to you, that all of big tech and the lefty media buried this story until the election (saying that anyone who discussed it was spreading Russian disinformation), and then after the election, they all said "oh by the way, it was legit". Is that all a random coincidence? Or was it obviously an attempt to help Biden win?

wdmso 08-18-2022 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231342)
WHen did Wray say Thibault had no connection whatsoever to Hunter Biden? He was the assistant special agent in charge of the DC office until recently, now he's on leave. Shocker.

Bryan, what does it say to you, that all of big tech and the lefty media buried this story until the election (saying that anyone who discussed it was spreading Russian disinformation), and then after the election, they all said "oh by the way, it was legit". Is that all a random coincidence? Or was it obviously an attempt to help Biden win?

Flip flop
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Jim in CT 08-18-2022 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1231343)
Flip flop
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I don't think you know what flip flop means.

wdmso 08-18-2022 05:35 PM

seems Trump is more interested in looking like he wants the affidavit released — or more aptly, in making the Justice Department, which regularly opposes releasing documents in ongoing investigations, look like it’s hiding something.

Yet. Trump: Release the full affidavit! Trump’s lawyers in court: Meh.

Classic Trump
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wdmso 08-18-2022 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231347)
I don't think you know what flip flop means.

You flip flop from one topic to the next or just insert a topic that’s no one is even talking about would hop scotch be a better comparison


Ps Carter Page was the only one of four initial suspects in the Russia investigation who was never charged or convicted.

Wow that’s how the system supposed to work
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scottw 08-18-2022 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1231351)

You flip flop from one topic to the next or just insert a topic that’s no one is even talking about would hop scotch be a better comparison



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I think you mean PETE

Pete F. 08-19-2022 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1231357)
I think you mean PETE

Ah, the troll speaks.

I’m ready for the ‘Trump Crime Family’ season finale.
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Pete F. 08-19-2022 06:45 AM

Why would anyone be surprised that after Trump screaming for transparency, Trump‘s lawyers were silent in court. DOJ wants to keep it sealed for its own investigation, but the information —however redacted—would be damning for Trump. It will chronicle criminal activity and intransigence.
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Jim in CT 08-19-2022 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1231351)
You flip flop from one topic to the next or just insert a topic that’s no one is even talking about would hop scotch be a better comparison


Ps Carter Page was the only one of four initial suspects in the Russia investigation who was never charged or convicted.

Wow that’s how the system supposed to work
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oh so you’re calling me out for switching topics. When was the last time anyone started a thread that you guys didn’t all immediately pivot
to trump?

flip flopping is when a person changes his position on the same topic.
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Pete F. 08-19-2022 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1230788)
Just raided mar-largo.

:lurk:

Isn’t this thread about the FBI and Trump?
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RIROCKHOUND 08-19-2022 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231342)
WHen did Wray say Thibault had no connection whatsoever to Hunter Biden? He was the assistant special agent in charge of the DC office until recently, now he's on leave. Shocker.

The investigation is/was being conducted out of the Baltimore field office by a rump appointee....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231342)
Bryan, what does it say to you, that all of big tech and the lefty media buried this story until the election (saying that anyone who discussed it was spreading Russian disinformation), and then after the election, they all said "oh by the way, it was legit". Is that all a random coincidence? Or was it obviously an attempt to help Biden win?

Did they want Trump to win when the announced the Hillary investigation <2 weeks before the election?

Or, maybe there should have been/should be a heavy dose of skepticism with a blind laptop repair guy across the country, who just happened to have a laptop? Why did Barr work to keep the investigation into Hunter quiet? Did he want Trump to lose?

Even recently, I had read a Wash Post article where they could verify some of the emails are real, but a vast majority of the data had been so mishandled by the folks that now have the laptop, that the authenticity of some of it/much of it cant be verified.

All of that comes back to the fact that Hunter is clearly a scumbag. Full stop. He has a drug problem and is likely pretty amoral. He traded on his dads name to make a lot of money. So did/do the Trump kids. Does it suck, yes. On both sides.

Jim in CT 08-19-2022 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1231375)
The investigation is/was being conducted out of the Baltimore field office by a rump appointee....



Did they want Trump to win when the announced the Hillary investigation <2 weeks before the election?

Or, maybe there should have been/should be a heavy dose of skepticism with a blind laptop repair guy across the country, who just happened to have a laptop? Why did Barr work to keep the investigation into Hunter quiet? Did he want Trump to lose?

Even recently, I had read a Wash Post article where they could verify some of the emails are real, but a vast majority of the data had been so mishandled by the folks that now have the laptop, that the authenticity of some of it/much of it cant be verified.

All of that comes back to the fact that Hunter is clearly a scumbag. Full stop. He has a drug problem and is likely pretty amoral. He traded on his dads name to make a lot of money. So did/do the Trump kids. Does it suck, yes. On both sides.

i’ve said trump is morally bankrupt. I believe the bidens are as well, all
kinds of evidence that’s the case.

yes it sucks on both sides. However, The DOJ and the media and big tech aren’t treating both sides the same.

you have a totally valid point about the hilary investigation two weeks before the election, that didn’t help her. but she had that coming.

trump is corrupt, and is being investigated by everybody. fine

the bidens have it coming, and are getting a free pass. Joe, who once said we need to believe al women ( when kavanaughs head was in the block) has a rape allegation against him. And there’s all kinds of evidence of shady influence peddling. But we aren’t supposed to talk about it ( it’s russian disinformation!), and for sure the DOJ isn’t looking at it.
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RIROCKHOUND 08-19-2022 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231376)
and for sure the DOJ isn’t looking at it.
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So... Why didn't Barr look into it??? OR, maybe they did and there is no 'there' there...

Jim in CT 08-19-2022 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1231377)
So... Why didn't Barr look into it??? OR, maybe they did and there is no 'there' there...

yes bryan, i’m sure the DOJ thoroughly and impartially investigated Hunter and Joe, concluded they did nothing wrong, and then nobody said anything about it. It didn’t get to the media. Or even more likely, maybe the DOJ told CNN and MSNBC that the Bidens were squeaky clean, but CNN and MSNBC chose not to mention it on the air because they didn’t want to appear to be showing favoritism to the Bidens.

I’m certain that’s exactly what happened.
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wdmso 08-19-2022 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231376)
i’ve said trump is morally bankrupt. I believe the bidens are as well, all
kinds of evidence that’s the case.

yes it sucks on both sides. However, The DOJ and the media and big tech aren’t treating both sides the same.

you have a totally valid point about the hilary investigation two weeks before the election, that didn’t help her. but she had that coming.

trump is corrupt, and is being investigated by everybody. fine

the bidens have it coming, and are getting a free pass. Joe, who once said we need to believe al women ( when kavanaughs head was in the block) has a rape allegation against him. And there’s all kinds of evidence of shady influence peddling. But we aren’t supposed to talk about it ( it’s russian disinformation!), and for sure the DOJ isn’t looking at it.
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Yep you totally ignored Rockhound and the laptop. And are convinced the FBI and for sure the DOJ isn’t looking at it.

Because you see or hear the outcome you want..


you have a totally valid point about the hilary investigation two weeks before the election, that didn’t help her. but she had that coming.


Yep . there it is ! You agree but a quick Flop flop . to see had it coming so you’re ok with it anyway
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Jim in CT 08-19-2022 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1231391)
Yep you totally ignored Rockhound and the laptop. And are convinced the FBI and for sure the DOJ isn’t looking at it.

Because you see or hear the outcome you want..


you have a totally valid point about the hilary investigation two weeks before the election, that didn’t help her. but she had that coming.


Yep . there it is ! You agree but a quick Flop flop . to see had it coming so you’re ok with it anyway
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"you totally ignored Rockhound and the laptop."

What did I ignore? Please be specific?

"are convinced the FBI and for sure the DOJ isn’t looking at it."

If the FBI was looking into it, Wray might have said something when he was just questioned about it. Why would they look into something that's all "Russian disinformation", anyway?

"you see or hear the outcome you want"

Right, which is why I was sure Trump would lose in 2016, why I think the GOP is doing a godawful job of campaigning right now.

We can't all be as honest and impartial as you are.

Jim in CT 08-19-2022 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231392)
"you totally ignored Rockhound and the laptop."

What did I ignore? Please be specific?

"are convinced the FBI and for sure the DOJ isn’t looking at it."

If the FBI was looking into it, Wray might have said something when he was just questioned about it. Why would they look into something that's all "Russian disinformation", anyway?

"you see or hear the outcome you want"

Right, which is why I was sure Trump would lose in 2016, why I think the GOP is doing a godawful job of campaigning right now.

We can't all be as honest and impartial as you are.

That's something, coming from a guy who denies that the Minneapolis teacher contract has anything to do with race, because the word "race" isn't in the language. Give me a break, you have less than zero credibility.

wdmso 08-19-2022 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231393)
That's something, coming from a guy who denies that the Minneapolis teacher contract has anything to do with race, because the word "race" isn't in the language. Give me a break, you have less than zero credibility.

1st
I wasn’t the butt hurt person who started the thread. About a contract the teachers themselves approved

2nd race isn’t mentioned . It covers all marginalized groups.. I listed some of those groups earlier like veterans

3rd you avoid his laptop comments like the plague .. I think I also mentioned a little thing called chain of custody the blind guy and a bunch of other reasons why any prosecutors worth their salt would see that laptop as Kryptonite
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The Dad Fisherman 08-19-2022 06:54 PM

Veterans are not a marginalized group
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Jim in CT 08-19-2022 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1231399)
1st
I wasn’t the butt hurt person who started the thread. About a contract the teachers themselves approved

2nd race isn’t mentioned . It covers all marginalized groups.. I listed some of those groups earlier like veterans

3rd you avoid his laptop comments like the plague .. I think I also mentioned a little thing called chain of custody the blind guy and a bunch of other reasons why any prosecutors worth their salt would see that laptop as Kryptonite
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you criticized me for flip flopping topics. but its ok when you do it because of course everything is ok when the left does it.

i asked you, specifically what i ignored. your answer is gibberish

you’re the only idiot here who claims that contract isn’t about race. As TDF said, the progressives are bragging that it will
he used to fire whites first.
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Pete F. 08-20-2022 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231392)
"you totally ignored Rockhound and the laptop."

What did I ignore? Please be specific?

"are convinced the FBI and for sure the DOJ isn’t looking at it."

If the FBI was looking into it, Wray might have said something when he was just questioned about it. Why would they look into something that's all "Russian disinformation", anyway?

"you see or hear the outcome you want"

Right, which is why I was sure Trump would lose in 2016, why I think the GOP is doing a godawful job of campaigning right now.

We can't all be as honest and impartial as you are.

This is especially important since Hunter worked in the White House for four years even though he was rejected for a security clearance and then later got a $2 billion investment from the Saudis ... oh wait
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spence 08-20-2022 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1231408)
This is especially important since Hunter worked in the White House for four years even though he was rejected for a security clearance and then later got a $2 billion investment from the Saudis ... oh wait
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Flip flop often confuses kids.

scottw 08-20-2022 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231392)

If the FBI was looking into it,

.

if the FBI was looking into it...they'd be leaking info to the Washington Post and NY Times :laugha:

Nebe 08-20-2022 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1231412)
if the FBI was looking into it...they'd be leaking info to the Washington Post and NY Times :laugha:

Like they leaked the fact they were going to raid mar-A-lago. Oh wait.
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Pete F. 08-20-2022 06:55 AM

It’s time for: a caravan, but Hillary, but Hunter or the FBI since Federal appeals court ruled that the DOJ must make public an internal legal memo commissioned by then-Attorney General William Barr in 2019 to analyze whether he should charge then-President Donald Trump with obstruction related to the Russia investigation.
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scottw 08-20-2022 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1231418)
Like they leaked the fact they were going to raid mar-A-lago. Oh wait.
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c'mon, you know they didn't want to alert trump that they were coming to confiscate melania's panties, they hate trump....but they'd definitely give hunter and the big guy the head's up so they could hide the crack, guns and hookers

scottw 08-20-2022 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1231419)
It’s time for: a caravan, but Hillary, but Hunter or the FBI since Federal appeals court ruled that the DOJ must make public an internal legal memo commissioned by then-Attorney General William Barr in 2019 to analyze whether he should charge then-President Donald Trump with obstruction related to the Russia investigation.
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how do you obstruct a hoax?

wdmso 08-20-2022 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1231404)
Veterans are not a marginalized group
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You may believe that. But seems others do not. And no I didn’t make it up


Like many other marginalized groups, veterans have certain rules that arise from military culture for how they share private information about their experiences,” says Douglas Wilbur, a retired major

FYI

marginalized populations include, but are not limited to, groups excluded due to race, gender identity, sexual orientation, age, physical ability, language, and/or immigration status.

Note not limited to.. so it’s possible to have a gay male white veteran in a wheelchair. Keep his Job before the black teachers everyone’s afraid is taking a white person job . As the contract is written.. it refers to

under-represented is the actual term in the contract.

It’s meaning isn’t as detailed as marginalized but it’s in the ballpark


It is easy to see this as an attack on white teachers if that’s what you want it to be
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The Dad Fisherman 08-20-2022 10:53 AM

Should they layoff black teachers in a predominantly white community, to make sure the makeup of the faculty is representative of the student body. How do you think that would play out in the news.

I’m not reacting to this as an attack on white teachers, I’m saying we shouldn’t be making decisions based upon racial criteria. Or sexual preference criteria for that matter. It’s a terrible precedent to set.
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Pete F. 08-20-2022 11:02 AM

1: The FBI planted evidence, but also there was a “standing order” declassifying everything.

2: Biden personally approved the search, but also he *should’ve* personally approved it.

3: It was an unconstitutional “general” warrant but also the FBI deviated from its narrow scope.

4. “Your Honor: the FBI planted evidence at my hotel-residence during a search you authorized. (Just trust me on that). I’d like a Special Master appointed as they planted privileged communications between me and my #^&#^&#^&#^&ty lawyers who didn’t think to make this motion for two weeks.”
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Pete F. 08-20-2022 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1231434)
Should they layoff black teachers in a predominantly white community, to make sure the makeup of the faculty is representative of the student body. How do you think that would play out in the news.

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You think that situation exists in this country?

What would be your reaction if most of your children’s teachers were not white?

The opposite of your example exists in almost every community of color.

White Americans are afraid of diversity and truth because they feel threatened by both.
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The Dad Fisherman 08-20-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1231436)
You think that situation exists in this country?

What would be your reaction if most of your children’s teachers were not white?

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Don’t really care if it does or doesn’t exist, it is a terrible precedent to set.

Don’t really care what color my kids teachers were either, as long as they’re doing a good job at teaching, I’m cool.
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scottw 08-20-2022 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1231438)
.

Don’t really care what color my kids teachers were either, as long as they’re doing a good job at teaching, I’m cool.

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same here....

scottw 08-20-2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1231436)

White Americans are afraid of diversity and truth because they feel threatened by both.

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this is ignorant....

Jim in CT 08-20-2022 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1231434)
Should they layoff black teachers in a predominantly white community, to make sure the makeup of the faculty is representative of the student body. How do you think that would play out in the news.

I’m not reacting to this as an attack on white teachers, I’m saying we shouldn’t be making decisions based upon racial criteria. Or sexual preference criteria for that matter. It’s a terrible precedent to set.
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if you disagree with this ^, you’re an extremist.

we don’t choose our skin color, therefore it says absolutely nothing about us. so why would
we reward/punish people
based on it?

it’s as logical as hiring teachers based on height. It’s exactly that stupid.
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