Collateral damage is inevitable when a gang of cowards deliberately use civilian areas as staging grounds for their attacks.

You can't expect any country to sit there and take it forever.

I cannot believe your ignorance.... do you have any clue how far off you are???? Do you get paid to incite people?

Well I posted a link to a video which analyzed the attacks on 9/11 and how the Bush Administration handled the Aftermath of 9/11. Was documentary incorrect? It's on the basis of judgement. Is it to piss people off? I think it may enlighten them. Was it stupid? Again, judgement...

I guess I directed my comments towards the wrong person. So if you didn't pull my post then that changes everything...
I assumed, yes I hate to admit it, that you pulled it because you're an Admin and you're usually active around this forum. With that in retrospect, I felt intellectually threatened by you asking me for my age. That's why I was being an "a$$hole." My apologies...

Simular to Isreal I had an area of "target."

Okay enlighten us. On what point is Skip ignorant?

1. Isreal has targeted areas.
2. They know there are civilians near the targets.
3. They know they're are going to blow up civilains to reach their targets.
4. They blow up their targets.
5. No Hezbullah...
6. Isreal calls it an accident.

The one where he calls everyone Idiots......Earlier everyone was a Moron.

I just wish he would make up his mind......just like those Hippy Liberals...always Flip-Floppin

All of them :jester: Are you in the matrix to?

Who is this man
 

this is a test for everyone...who is he and what is his history?

Isn't that Blackbeard after he shaved?

i know
 

he's the kid who didn't listen to his mother .:poke:

If that's Moshe Dyan, then he's one of the guys who created Israel through terrorist tactics. Also showed the Egyptian Army how to die.
http://www.tylerphoto.com/people/dyan.html Looked him up for you.

Jake
 

You win a BBJ plug!

He was a bad ass :hihi:

Hmm...I guess if believing fighting back against Terrorism is the right thing to do, and if thinkiing that the destruction of Hizbollah and Hamas is a pretty cool thing, than yes I'm in the Matrix.

Damn - how the hell did you get to 5000 posts ??

SS.... I agree with your statement :cheers:

The statement is pretty clear...the point being, it's not like Palestenian non-militants are saying "well, my son did die while walking to school between checkpoints 7 and 8, but the Israelis were aiming those rockets at the terrorists down the street, so I guess it was just Allah's will"...

The Israelis are certainly guilty of dehumanizing the Palestenians in an effort to provide security, but let's be honest...also wear them down. Hence my comments about humiliation and rage.

I don't think they should shoulder the blame though, as I've stated previously, the problem is much larger than the two parties and will require a solution that's beyond both.

-spence

Sparse interesting tidbit
 

Arab-Israeli wars

A day after the declaration of independence of the State of Israel, armies of five Arab countries, Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon and Iraq, invaded Israel. This marked the beginning of the War of Independence. Arab states have jointly waged four full scale wars against Israel:

• 1948 War of Independence
• 1956 Sinai War
• 1967 Six Day War
• 1973 Yom Kippur War

Despite the numerical superiority of the Arab armies, Israel defended itself each time and won. After each war Israeli army withdrew from most of the areas it captured (see maps). This is unprecedented in World history and shows Israel's willingness to reach peace even at the risk of fighting for its very existence each time anew.

I'm glad you agree with his statement. But what he said is the same damn stuff i've been saying this entire thread! When i say it, im a nut, when he says the same thing, you agree.

I will never understand the left!! Make up your damn minds please!

But hey, welcome to the Matrix, you agree with me and SS after all.

Oh wow... So the cause of terrorism is due to Western colonization in the Middle East. It would be so much simple if the Jews went back to Europe...

Its all the other stuff Skip.... :hihi: You crazy bugger you :laugha:

There is no left or middle or right....its all one big hole :rollem:

did he say CRAZY BUGGER :hidin:

And what a few billion a year from the US can do for you.

Likwid.... no one supported them years ago except themselves and they survived and thrived

Because when you say it, its more of an Attack and it seems full of hate. You call people Idiots and Morons. And if someone doesn't see it your way you immediately label them as "Lefty's"

You take peoples words and totally distort them. All Skitterpop asked was how this whole Isreal-Palestine Confrontation was going to effect the World we Live in and mentioned how the US had probably given Isreal the Green Light on this and you turned it around and Labeled him A friend of Palestine and a Terrorist Sympathiser.

If you want people to take you seriously you need to "CHILL The F Out" and stop being so "in your face" on everything. You may actually get somewhere with the Point your trying to make instead of immediately putting people on the defensive. Once you start Labeling People and Name-calling you immediately get the word "Nut" Stamped on your forehead for the rest of the thread and no-one takes you seriously.

And before you label me a Terrorist Sympathiser I believe Hezbollah, Hamas, The PLO, Al-Quaida, The IRA, The KKK, the Aryan Brotherhood and any other organization that Peddles Hate should be wiped out.

mmmmmmmmmmmm.....no

If my memory of the history is right, we didn't even provide much if any aid in the '47 war. Israel was able to defend herself just fine by smuggling arms through Eastern Europe, and fighting like hell.

Remember as well that a lot of the "billions" people talk about was part of a joint settlement with Egypt, and we have been throwing them money as well.

In a way I think we've done Israel a great disservice by protecting them from UN condemnation over the years...it's created a tremendous amount of animosity towards both the US and Israel, contributed greatly to 9/11 and has prevented, I believe, Israel from gaining needed legitimacy in the region.

Instead of being seen as strong when they indeed have been very strong, they are seen as a protected son who can do no wrong...

-spence

Actually--before the demographics of France changed and it became about 20% Muslim, they got a lot of military aid from France. Their entire Air Force was made up of Mirages up until the 1967 war.

And in 1956, there is some pretty convincing evidence that both French and British fighter pilots flew clandestinely for the IDF.

Wrong...back later :cheers:

Hey when people make crazy and wild statements i call them out, just the way it is. If you cant cant deal then to bad. Have you seen the crap people have said about me!? Deal with it, who cares. I could care less what people say about me. I laugh it off and make my point.

But i'm glad to see your coming around with your above statement. There's hope for you after all :tooth:

No, what you're doing is applying caveman logic to a very nuanced situation and stating without question that anyone who doesn't share your overly simplistic view is aligned with the enemy.

It's the exact same bull%$%$%$%$ that Bush has used to divide the country, and it's pathetic.

-spence