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Pete F. 04-16-2022 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1225809)
Non mathematical equivalence and false equivalence doesn't necessarily require the exact same amount or degree of what is being compared, merely the same types of things are being compared.

Need a reason to never trust the GOP again? How about the entire Republican Party knowing about 1/6, and not a single one of them warning the FBI.
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detbuch 04-16-2022 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1225811)
Need a reason to never trust the GOP again? How about the entire Republican Party knowing about 1/6, and not a single one of them warning the FBI.
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The "entire" Republican Party! Including all those in state governments? Even Liz Cheney? Well, I don't trust her anyway. Like her dad when he went against his promise to get rid of Obamacare with his infamous and dramatic thumbs down.

I don't trust either party, except to renege on a lot of promises. Nor do I trust the FBI. I think one of the reasons we have elections is that it would be foolish to trust politicians and parties.

Which is a major reason why I want Progressivism and the Progressive Party to be defeated. The Progressive agenda is to regulate us by unelected administrators.

I do, however, have a cynical trust in the Progressives to faithfully carry out that mission.

Pete F. 04-16-2022 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1225813)
The "entire" Republican Party! Including all those in state governments? Even Liz Cheney? Well, I don't trust her anyway. Like her dad when he went against his promise to get rid of Obamacare with his infamous and dramatic thumbs down.

I don't trust either party, except to renege on a lot of promises. Nor do I trust the FBI. I think one of the reasons we have elections is that it would be foolish to trust politicians and parties.

Which is a major reason why I want Progressivism and the Progressive Party to be defeated. The Progressive agenda is to regulate us by unelected administrators.

I do, however, have a cynical trust in the Progressives to faithfully carry out that mission.

Right-wingers are obsessed with FA Hayek's 1944 *theory* that welfare states inevitably expand to become totalitarian. Is there *any* case in which this actually happened since 1944? Arguably, Pinochet's Chile, but this was an authoritarian effort to stop socialism.
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detbuch 04-16-2022 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1225815)
Right-wingers are obsessed with FA Hayek's 1944 *theory* that welfare states inevitably expand to become totalitarian. Is there *any* case in which this actually happened since 1944? Arguably, Pinochet's Chile, but this was an authoritarian effort to stop socialism.
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China is a welfare state. Centralization of power may not inevitably become totalitarian. It already is at least authoritarian. Which is well on its way to becoming totalitarian, given human nature and the lust for power. A lust that is inherent in both despots and do-gooders.

There are variations of the so-called "welfare state." In my opinion, it is far better to have a state in which there are multiple centers of power that are more directly responsible to the will of their people, and in which the people can easily remove their elected leaders when they trespass what our constitutional system calls inalienable rights. If the people prefer the state's power over and determination of their welfare, then they have an optimistic view of the continued welfare and rights granted by authoritarians. I prefer to have the option to live in a state that protects inalienable rights than in one that grants what rights we have.

Raider Ronnie 04-17-2022 07:01 AM

https://rumble.com/v112t8q-the-missi...-revealed.html




Nothing to see here.
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wdmso 04-17-2022 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1225820)
https://rumble.com/v112t8q-the-missi...-revealed.html




Nothing to see here.
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Yet, as the DOJ hunts down legitimate peaceful protesters from that day

Keep convincing yourself they were legitimate peaceful protesters

Your sources history

Representative Devin Nunes accused YouTube of being overly censorious toward his channel and began posting his videos on Rumble. Other prominent conservatives, such as Dinesh D’Souza, Dan Bongino, Sean Hannity, and Representative Jim Jordan, soon followed.[3][9][10] Former US President Donald Trump officially joined Rumble on June 26, 2021, in preparation for recording his Ohio campaign rally.[11]

A lot of Rumble's traffic is referred from Parler.[12] Using data from February 2021, researchers studying conspiracy theories and misinformation about COVID-19 noted that several content creators have gained a receptive audience on Rumble after their productions have been pulled from YouTube or Facebook

Keep your head in the bubble
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Raider Ronnie 04-17-2022 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1225831)
Yet, as the DOJ hunts down legitimate peaceful protesters from that day

Keep convincing yourself they were legitimate peaceful protesters



You keep convincing yourself what your liberal media feeds you and also hides from you.
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wdmso 04-17-2022 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1225834)
You keep convincing yourself what your liberal media feeds you and also hides from you.
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Iam not the conspiracy theorist here but keep up the good work..
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detbuch 04-17-2022 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1225836)
Iam not the conspiracy theorist here but keep up the good work..
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It is convenient for you to label anything that runs counter to what you believe, or want to believe, a conspiracy theory (concocting your own conspiracies?).

I saw no theory, conspiracy or otherwise, in Raider's video. On the Capitol Building official government videos, the Capitol police appeared more to be welcoming the protesters rather than blocking or stopping them.

Raider Ronnie 04-17-2022 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1225842)
It is convenient for you to label anything that runs counter to what you believe, or want to believe, a conspiracy theory (concocting your own conspiracies?).

I saw no theory, conspiracy or otherwise, in Raider's video. On the Capitol Building official government videos, the Capitol police appeared more to be welcoming the protesters rather than blocking or stopping them.




I’ve seen plenty of those videos but like magic they disappear thanks to the liberal corrupt media covering for them.

These liberals that post daily on this forum would rather cut off their heads & bleed to death rather than admit they are wrong.
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Raider Ronnie 04-17-2022 06:59 PM

I had WRKO on all day at work that day of the so called Insurection.
Call after call from people that were there reported that Antifa & BLM members were mixed in with the crowd and instigating violence & destruction.

I’m just glad AOC wasn’t killed like she claimed she thought was going to happen……..
Even though she was no where near the place.
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Pete F. 04-17-2022 07:08 PM

I guess you can ignore what happened
There’s plenty of footage of the crowd, point out someone who you think is Antifa or BLM
Funny how that’s not happened

https://youtu.be/0pe241gW0dQ
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wdmso 04-18-2022 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1225845)
I had WRKO on all day at work that day of the so called Insurection.
Call after call from people that were there reported that Antifa & BLM members were mixed in with the crowd and instigating violence & destruction.

I’m just glad AOC wasn’t killed like she claimed she thought was going to happen……..
Even though she was no where near the place.
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so what you are saying is you had WRKO on speed dial :kewl:

PaulS 04-18-2022 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1225845)
I’m just glad AOC wasn’t killed like she claimed she thought was going to happen……..
Even though she was no where near the place.
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Did she ever claim she was in the capital?

The Dad Fisherman 04-18-2022 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1225863)
Did she ever claim she was in the capital?

Ron didn’t say she claimed to be in the capitol, but she did claim she was in danger

(CNN) When Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was barricaded inside her office during the Capitol insurrection on January 6, she not only feared that mob would kill her, but that she would be raped if the rioters found her.

"I didn't think that I was just going to be killed," Ocasio-Cortez told CNN's Dana Bash in "Being...AOC," the first episode of the new CNN series "Being..." that airs Monday night at 9 p.m. ET. "I thought other things were going to happen to me as well."
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Got Stripers 04-18-2022 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1225845)
I had WRKO on all day at work that day of the so called Insurection.
Call after call from people that were there reported that Antifa & BLM members were mixed in with the crowd and instigating violence & destruction.

I’m just glad AOC wasn’t killed like she claimed she thought was going to happen……..
Even though she was no where near the place.
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Of course and obviously Trump won the election and those damn plants caused all the trouble, you crack me up.

PaulS 04-18-2022 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1225864)
Ron didn’t say she claimed to be in the capitol, but she did claim she was in danger

(CNN) When Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was barricaded inside her office during the Capitol insurrection on January 6, she not only feared that mob would kill her, but that she would be raped if the rioters found her.

"I didn't think that I was just going to be killed," Ocasio-Cortez told CNN's Dana Bash in "Being...AOC," the first episode of the new CNN series "Being..." that airs Monday night at 9 p.m. ET. "I thought other things were going to happen to me as well."
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I looked it up. She said when she heard the banging on the door she thought the insurrectionist were coming for her. After a few min. she found out it was capital policeman.

Seems like Ronnie is dismissing what the trauma of a sexual assault victim would feel and is trying to insinuate she lied. I wonder why he even mentioned her or said "she was no where near the place" given she never claimed she was.

The Dad Fisherman 04-18-2022 04:52 PM

Ron didn’t dismiss anything and he didn’t insinuate anything. He stated exactly what she said, in her own words, that she was feeling at the time.

AOC is a Drama Queen, plain and simple
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Jim in CT 04-18-2022 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1225866)
I looked it up. She said when she heard the banging on the door she thought the insurrectionist were coming for her. After a few min. she found out it was capital policeman.

Seems like Ronnie is dismissing what the trauma of a sexual assault victim would feel and is trying to insinuate she lied. I wonder why he even mentioned her or said "she was no where near the place" given she never claimed she was.

if she said she thought the insurrectionists were going to rape her and murder her, that doesn’t imply that she’s claiming she was near the site of the insurrection? how can they kill her after doing other things to her, if she wasn’t there?

everyone wants to date her, she’s just that irresistible.

can’t you just say she misspoke? would it kill you to say that?

anything to be a victim.
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PaulS 04-18-2022 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1225867)
Ron didn’t dismiss anything and he didn’t insinuate anything. He stated exactly what she said, in her own words, that she was feeling at the time.

AOC is a Drama Queen, plain and simple
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He left out 99% of the story.

PaulS 04-18-2022 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1225868)
if she said she thought the insurrectionists were going to rape her and murder her, that doesn’t imply that she’s claiming she was near the site of the insurrection? how can they kill her after doing other things to her, if she wasn’t there?
no it doesn't. She was told to leave the office building. Why would they tell her to leave the office building if they didn't think there was some potential for harm?
everyone wants to date her, she’s just that irresistible.

can’t you just say she misspoke? How did she misspeak?would it kill you to say that?

anything to be a victim.
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Anything to dismiss a Dem? or anything to dismiss a sexual assault survivor?

Jim in CT 04-18-2022 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1225871)
Anything to dismiss a Dem? or anything to dismiss a sexual assault survivor?

“no it doesn’t.”

ok. so if i say i thought the 9/11 terrorists were going to get me, you wouldnt assume
i was claiming to be in NY or DC. And if it turned out i was camping in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge at the time, then as long as i was a democrat, you’d be ok with my story.

And i suppose you believe her abuela had a leaky roof too, and AOC with her multiple homes and new Tesla, wasn’t in a position to be able to do anything. Poor abuela.

no paul, not anything to dismiss a dem. just ones that are stupid, pathologically lying, perpetually victimized, woke marxist dipsh*ts. she fits the bill, and is leading a huge parade of democrat lemmings right off a cliff.

personally i love her and hope she stays in power for 50 years. better than a republican having that seat.
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PaulS 04-18-2022 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1225872)
“no it doesn’t.”

ok. so if i say i thought the 9/11 terrorists were going to get me, you wouldnt assume
i was claiming to be in NY or DC. And if it turned out i was camping in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge at the time, then as long as i was a democrat, you’d be ok with my story.So you think the distance from her office is comparable to the distance between WTC and DC? I know lots of people who worked in NY on 9/11 and they ALL were scared.

And i suppose you believe her abuela had a leaky roof too, and AOC with her multiple homes and new Tesla, wasn’t in a position to be able to do anything. Poor abuela.

no paul, not anything to dismiss a dem. just ones that are stupid, pathologically lying, perpetually victimized, woke marxist dipsh*ts. she fits the bill, and is leading a huge parade of democrat lemmings right off a cliff.

personally i love her and hope she stays in power for 50 years. better than a republican having that seat.
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So you can't say how she misspoke?

Jim in CT 04-18-2022 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1225873)
So you can't say how she misspoke?

i think she had no conceivable reason to think she was about to get the Cossack treatment. but you won’t question it, you cannot question it, because she has a D after her name.
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The Dad Fisherman 04-18-2022 07:07 PM

Like I said."Drama Queen"
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PaulS 04-18-2022 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1225874)
i think she had no conceivable reason to think she was about to get the Cossack treatment. but you won’t question it, you cannot question it, because she has a D after her name.
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i bet you have no idea what she said because you listen to right-wing media.

So again tell me how she misspoke?
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Raider Ronnie 04-18-2022 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1225875)
Like I said."Drama Queen"
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Speaking of AOC

Who else has seen the video supposedly that’s her blowing some dude ?
Naturally the liberal fact checkers say it’s not her or they say video is doctored but I don’t buy that.
Sure looks & sounds like her !
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Nebe 04-18-2022 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1225877)
Speaking of AOC

Who else has seen the video supposedly that’s her blowing some dude ?
Naturally the liberal fact checkers say it’s not her or they say video is doctored but I don’t buy that.
Sure looks & sounds like her !
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Lucky guy. :hihi:
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Raider Ronnie 04-18-2022 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1225879)
Lucky guy. :hihi:
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I actually agree
She sure knew what she was doing though at one point she says
“Don’t cum in my mouth daddy”
Just like a liberal.
She doesn’t finish the job !!!
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Jim in CT 04-18-2022 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1225876)
i bet you have no idea what she said because you listen to right-wing media.

So again tell me how she misspoke?
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she said she thought she was going to get killed after they did some things to her.

try to follow.

She. Wasn’t. There.

Maybe she was afraid it was her abuela knocking, asking for help
with her leaky roof. AOC, with her homes and new tesla, couldn’t help, so she blames Trump, racism, hate, blah, blah blah.

she’s wicked smaht.


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