You’re either lying or willfully blind to the facts.

Those pushing the "gay lover" theory have pointed to a handful of purported pieces of evidence based on falsehoods and twisted storylines. They say that DePape was in his underwear when police arrived at the scene -- but the local TV station that originally reported that has since corrected its story and removed the assertion. Others have suggested that a third person opened the door to Pelosi's house, but police have debunked that.

Many of the theorists have latched on to a recording of a 911 dispatcher saying that Pelosi referred to DePape as "a friend" and "sounded somewhat confused."

But Pelosi seemed to be speaking in coded language on the 911 call to make clear he needed help, a law enforcement source previously told CNN. And the complaint notes that Pelosi told officers he had never seen DePape before.

The complaint also included an interview police did with DePape in which he admitted breaking into the house and said he surprised Pelosi. According to the complaint, DePape said that he wanted to hold Nancy Pelosi hostage because he viewed her as the "'leader of the pack' of lies told by the Democratic Party," and claimed he was "fighting against tyranny without the option of surrender."

Scott, the San Francisco chief, called the conspiracies surrounding the attack "pathetic" and "disturbing."

"We've spent a lot of energy just pushing back, really ridiculous conspiracy theories, to make sure people stay focused on our team," he said. "These things are harmful to society, they're harmful to the victims involved -- it's really sad that we are here in this place, but we are."

So how’s your goat like it?
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The black nurse didn't have to tear your wife a new one unless she was consumed by a racial grievance that could only be relieved by striking out at someone she considered to be the cause, or part of the cause, of that grievance. The "lesson" I would have learned from such abusive behavior is that the black nurse had unresolved issues and that I would be better off not having many personal conversations with her for fear of inadvertently saying something "wrong." She could have politely told your wife that saying "colored" is offensive to her and please say black, if you don't mind. What any Blacks, Negros, Coloreds, Afro-Americans, personally wish to be called, is not that definitive or constant from time to time. To say that only they can decide what is derogatory is denying anyone else a use of language they don't personally consider derogatory. This is especially true if there is no standardized usage that for everyone is purely descriptive. When people take umbrage at words like "homosexual" or heterosexual or bisexual or asexual which have no inherent derogatory connotations and then decide to replace them with their own words, like "gay," they are insulting not only a language, but all of those who have used, and wish to use, that word to describe their own experiences--language is seized by a select few at the discouragement of anyone else from its appropriate use. That's a form of insult that is probably intended.

I still don't know what is the preferred or "correct" diction, Black or Afro-American. Black seems to be the choice of the day. But "people of color" in certain instances is quite OK--and very "inclusive" and a sort of self-satisfying jab/insult to "whites" who are excluded from the implicitly better group.

BTW, I've noticed that your writing has improved a lot, maybe from your daily back and forth on the forum. Still a ways to go. But keep it up, you'll eventually show your kids that you can do better than "fortune cookie" talk.

unless she was consumed by a racial grievance

You act as if they got in a fight, and she wrote my wife up to HR

It’s not my or my wife’s place to criticize her response we’re not Black and no nothing of her past

If she called my wife a cracker and my wife tore her a new one I don’t think it would be because she was consumed by a racial grievance

But their are many who are absolutely driven by and consumed by a racial grievance. Just not this story
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I Just don’t think the bestiality comments are helpful

I do agree . the rights infatuation with the gay relationship angle with pelosi

Now the drag queens shows or books don’t forget groomers Everything is about sexuality
Or sexualizing

And yes Jim does present many unfounded accusations, with no basis in fact.

I am Just suggesting we all show a little more restraint in our counter points

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Actually I chose that because it was so exaggerated that it would not be taken as “true”.
Would it have been within the bounds to accuse him of a more acceptable fetish perhaps grooming, child abuse, sexual predation or any of the other typical Republican claims and/or behaviors?
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If it rises to belligerent anger when being referred to as anything other than "Black" (even though some pigment of "Brown" would be more accurate), to me, something more than diction is going on and it certainly seems to be about race.

If I'm not mistaken, being "Black" is a pride thing. A racial pride. being referred to as vaguely "colored" can be perceived as an attack on racial purity, or as akin to being considered some mongrelized person of no distinct, proud, heritage or lineage. Being referred to as "brown" lumps one into the vast array of brown toned people--like the "People of color" moniker that is used as a somewhat useful and somewhat prideful collective distinction from the also vast array of "white" people.

The "Pride" distinctions are not very useful. On the contrary, they're needlessly divisive. On the other hand, if for various actual practical reasons someone's skin tone needs to be described--OK . . . but pride in skin tone--not so good.

I think your wife's intent in saying "colored" was, on the margins of describing someone in discussion, a practical, though perhaps clumsy, use of diction. It certainly didn't call for her being torn a new one.

Well the video is out, there goes another one of your conspiracy theories out the window with the broken glass. Well I guess you could say it’s staged like the moon landing, yeah that might work for you.

Queue all the video of republicans making fun of him.

We get to see an 80-year-old man get bludgeoned with a hammer (inc. his blood pooling on the floor) because our "politics" are so toxic that a judge (siding with news organizations) determined it was necessary to stop disinformation.

Notice what happened

They weren't "just asking questions."

They were spreading cruel and defamatory falsehoods against an almost fatally wounded man and his grieving family.

Then when the definitive rebuttal appears, they vanish - to repeat the same mean-spirited trick again and again.

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Sadly the Truth won’t set the GOPQ horde Free their parasites. Like fleas they’ll just go jump to new conspiracy
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Pathetic, But many in the GOP are in the party of trump - a vile, cheap, dishonest bully of a man
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The “law and order” party or at least a fair number were making fun of the attack and many questioning if it even went down the way it was reported.

it was reported multiple ways by NBC Bob. not foxnews, NBC. video and 911 call are strange in ways but looks more like an intruder than a tryst gone bad.

Yep right wingers still can’t let it go the fleas jumped now it’s

Body-Cam Footage Confirms Paul Pelosi Opened Door for Police, Contradicts DOJ Account

If you watch the body camera film clearly shows Pelosi didn’t open the door

This from MarjorieTaylorGreene who’s now on the homeland Security Committee?

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.): “… Paul Pelosi’s friend attacking him with a hammer.”

Other GOP elected officials

Rep. Clay Higgins (R-La.): “That moment you realize the nudist hippie male prostitute LSD guy was the reason your husband didn’t make it to your fundraiser.” (Deleted.)

Rep. Claudia Tenney (R-N.Y.): Shared a photo of a group of young men holding oversized hammers next to a gay pride flag and added, “LOL.” (Deleted.)







Conservatives media

That the attack was a false flag/didn’t happen
OAN: “This whole thing could be a false flag of sorts, staged if you will. I mean, the midterms are just weeks away and the Dems know they’re going to get hammered.”
OAN: “I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s hidden from public spotlight for a very long time. Just long enough for his injuries — his injuries, purported injuries — to go away.”

Fox News host Jesse Watters: “Now, there was glass broken at the rear door. We’ve seen those photos. But there looks like there’s glass on both sides, inside and out, and FBI sources are telling ‘Primetime’ that’s odd.”

Conservatives darling

Elon Musk, while linking to a website that labeled the attack “a dispute with a male prostitute”: “There is a tiny possibility there might be more to this story than meets the eye.” (Musk deleted the tweet.)

Dinesh D’Souza: “Why was the assailant in his underpants?” (He wasn’t; this notion was based on reporting that was corrected shortly after it was published, two days before D’Souza’s comments.) “My conclusion? This guy, the assailant, is either a sexual partner or a male prostitute, and this is a sexual rendezvous that went sideways.”


Again it’s all in black and white or in audio recordings and the Right wing machine knows their viewers want lies not facts they want name calling and jerry springer outlandish statements and suggestions

Yep both sides do it.. lol
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From the Seattle times.

Now do the Jussie Smolette incident :hihi:
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No they didn’t. It was a local affiliate who promptly retracted the reporting when they realized it didn’t have a credible source. Quit making things up.

I dealt with a home invasion four years ago, trust me it is surreal. I wish I had a recording of that call to the police.

a local affiliate of which network? NBC. NBC national disappeared a guy who posted something similar without giving any details, it was strange.

we now know. it’s over. should have released this on day one. hope pelosi recovers and this attacker gets exactly what’s coming to him.

i don’t understand how there’s no security, even when she’s in DC or in the other side of the globe. makes zero sense.

and kyle rittenhouse, and NicK Sandman, and Duke lacrosse, and darren wilson…throw tawana brawley in there…but only one side does this.

yep once again jim finds his common theme. hits from yesteryears:tm:

oh, so as long as the gop doesn’t do it again this week, you’ll
say they have a clean slate?

how long before the statute of limitations runs out and we can. o longer hold this against the gop?

So every time the police beat up someone it's the conservatives fault, right? How about when evidence is withheld and someone goes to jail? Is that conservatives fault also?
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The deep state might have faked the video. It might have been the same guys who faked the moon landing and Kennedy's assassination.
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take a deep breath. nothing happens on one side every time. Wayne is the one who said that falsehoods and conspiracy theories only occur on the right. my list, debunks that.

Try to respond to what i actually said, not to something stupid i never came close to saying.

none of your examples were conspiracy theories they were stories that were corrected as newer information developed

kyle rittenhouse is a white OJ he got away with Murder became a Conservative Hero

Darren Wilson what conspiracy theories were pushed here He wasn't indicted? A cop may use lethal force when he or she “reasonably believes that the action is in defense of human life, including the officer's own life” people disagrees with a verdict isn't a conspiracy

Nicholas Sandmann what conspiracy just bad reporting that was corrected then he loses lawsuits against media outlets including NYT, ABC, and Rolling Stone.. became darling of conservatives at National convention


Jim please look up what a conspiracy theory and a falseHood are, and are not the 2 are not the same .

IS Marjorie Taylor Greene, who tweeted: "Before the covid vaccines we didn't see athletes dropping dead on the playing field like we do now... Time to investigate the covid vaccines."


ISNT

ABC accused Nicholas of behavior constituting menacing racial intimidation of Phillips, a Native American political activist,

you crack us up.

with darren wilson, the bs “hands up don’t shoot”, after which he was supposedly shot anyway, was a conspiracy theory pushed by the left.

the trump/russia hoax? the lie that hunters laptop was russian disinformation? not conspiracy theories? the left wasn’t conspiring together to push ANY of those lies?

every case i cited was an example of the entire left getting it wrong, and shockingly always getting it wrong in a way that promotes liberalism. they never, ever make a collective mistake that helps the right. and that’s just a coincidence?

conspiracy theory: hi deeds of thousands of cops are in a plot to kill blacks

fact: more innocent blacks are killed every two weeks by other blacks in chicago, than the number of unarmed blacks that are killed by cops in the entire country in most years.

the left ignores the actual big problem, because talking about it honestly doesn’t help democrats win elections.

whatever you say, Columbo.

Fatal Police Violence Is Structural Jim run by the Government that requires Government to fix it

How safe is Chicago? The answer depends on where you're standing.

Chicago's homicide rate isn't the highest in the country But you've told that's not True ... you look away that areas in the city are plagued by poverty, drugs and economic underinvestment,

36K illegal guns taken off Chicago streets in recent yearsIt is estimated that 60% of the guns recovered in Chicago were originally purchased out of state, with Indiana, Mississippi and Wisconsin among the top suppliers.

“The flow of illegal guns into Chicago is absolutely a problem,

But if you listen to conservatives we have no gun problem in this Nation

according to the fbi, in 2019, 9 unarmed blacks were killed by police in the us in the whole country. one is too many. But 9 is a rounding error, it’s not anywhere near being close to evidence of a structural flaw.

“illegal guns into chicago.”

spokes like a true liberal. white republicans in the suburbs are dumping guns into chicago, and the guns, not the people, are slaughtering each other.

your brain is really something. every single big problem is caused by non liberals.

a gun is an inanimate object. if we cared about each other, the existence of the gun would not matter. there are too many guns, i admit that. the other thing, which you cannot admit because it doesn’t help democrats, is that our culture is very sick, especially in our cities. talking about that, doesn’t help democrats get elected. so you deny it, just as the right denies the gun issue. but you only care about what the right denies.

you’re the most predictable person on the internet.

If guns aren’t the problem and people are the problem, why would you give the problem guns?
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i said guns are part of the problem. we are the bigger problem. pete, no offense, i wouldn’t go anywhere near you if you had a gun. but let’s say TDF owned 500 guns. He’d never hurt anybody. The guns cannot make him do it. he could have an arsenal in his basement and i’d let my kids in his house and i wouldn’t be worried. Because the nature of the person matters way more than the presence of a gun.

i say give guns to the people for one reason - the constitution. I don’t like the idea of ignoring the parts of the constitution that we don’t happen to like. we can amend it, or else we live with it.

Poor victim

The murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Donald Trump has exceeded the murder rate in the 25 states that voted for Joe Biden in every year from 2000 to 2020.
Over this 21-year span, this Red State murder gap has steadily widened from a low of 9% more per capita red state murders in 2003 and 2004 to 44% more per capita red state murders in 2019, before settling back to 43% in 2020.
Altogether, the per capita Red State murder rate was 23% higher than the Blue State murder rate when all 21 years were combined.
If Blue State murder rates were as high as Red State murder rates, Biden-voting states would have suffered over 45,000 more murders between 2000 and 2020.
Even when murders in the largest cities in red states are removed, overall murder rates in Trump-voting states were 12% higher than Biden-voting states across this 21-year period and were higher in 18 of the 21 years observed.

Obviously Republicans cause the problem.
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right, right. the state of LA has a very high murder rate. Is the murder rate equally high across the state? hell no. it’s driven by new orleans where the gop controls nothing. a child blows your data out of the water.

why would you say the state government determines the murder rate across the whole state,,and not local government policies?

red states tend to be poor, and socioeconomics ( not race) drives a lot of bad things. i’d never say that republicans are morally superior to democrats, or that as a group they commit less crime. i just say they have better policy ideas. there’s plenty of good and bad people
on both sides.

it’s you and wayne who spend every day making posts about individual
republicans who behave badly. you want to claim that we’re all responsible for the bad apples on the right, but you’d never say you’re responsible for the bad apples on the left. It’s beyond stupid.

Even when murders in the largest cities in red states are removed, overall murder rates in Trump-voting states were 12% higher than Biden-voting states across this 21-year period and were higher in 18 of the 21 years observed.

Obviously Republicans cause the problem.
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Jim has no historical memory murders and crime have always been higher in major metropolitan cities regardless if Dem or Republican controlled

Hea Jim ever heard of Jacksonville red state Republican mayor

With a crime rate of 34 per one thousand residents, Jacksonville has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 30.

List of mayors of the 50 largest cities in the United States

mayoral political parties is 36 Democrats, 11 Republicans, and 3 Independents

Jim’s just parroting right wingers with the red state crime is liberal city mayors faults . But when crimes low it’s republicans politicians that made that happen lol
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white republicans in the suburbs are dumping guns into chicago

Wow your imagination is working overtime

You do know 99% of illegal guns come from legal gun owners.. and most happen to be white


our culture is very sick You are correct

When culture black and white have a love affair with guns via music or

company’s first offering: the JR-15, a play on the popular AR-15 assault rifle designed to look just like its deadly cousin, but 20 percent smaller. “It fits the kids really well,”

That’s the company’s sales pitch

The problem won’t get fixed anytime soon.
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pete was the one who distorted that not me. i never claimed
republicans have solved crime. all i claimed is that the high murder rate in LA is heavily driven by new orleans and a t the fault of the gop.

that’s what i said, and i’m right. the polls are crystal
clear on who america thinks have better ideas on crime. doesn’t mean there’s zero crime
in conservative places. you’re responding to something no one ever said. as usual.

the gop refuses to budge on guns. the democrats refuse to discuss fixing our cultural problems, our lack or humanity and family values.

Only one of those things bothers you. gee we wonder why.

When people are literally dying from mass shootings and police brutality in our country, but our culture just hears the loudest voices in Christianity protesting drag queens and books, we can’t expect people to believe our religion has anything to do with life conquering death.
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democrats refuse to discuss fixing our cultural cultural problems, our lack or humanity and family values.

There it is again the leave it to beaver Mentality

And some how Jim your telling us. the GOP and the Christian right are holding the High Ground on Humanity and family values…. In the United States

Man you live in a fantasy . And a good soldier in the GOPs Culture war army