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wdmso 01-12-2022 11:09 AM

COVID was again the leading cause of death among U.S. law enforcement in 2021

A map included in the report indicates that COVID-19-related officer deaths were identified in 32 states, with the highest concentration in California and southern states including Texas, Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia and Florida.

Law enforcement groups have pushed back against vaccine mandates
Leaders of some states and localities have even used the lack of a vaccine mandate as an incentive in their efforts to recruit law enforcement officers from other parts of the country.

Firearm and traffic fatalities also increased last year

it's Odd they wear body armor a seat belt ,to protect themselves But many refused to get the shot?

wdmso 01-12-2022 11:11 AM

Is he getting it more under control? Doesn't look like it to me.


And who in the GOP or the conservative landscape are trying to Help....

NOT MANY

wdmso 01-12-2022 11:36 AM

There were 100% unvaccinated before there was a vaccine. Yet deaths aren't dropping meaningfully, even though, what, 65% are vaccinated?


Jim 99% of those dying are unvaccinated why do you keep missing that part

During the 1st wave the original we locked down during the 1st covid and many states had mask mandates all contributed in reducing Deaths over all

then when the Vaccine came out and the right railed against it and Mask mandates then delta showed and Delta was worse than and more contagious but the right kept beating the anti vax drum yet Vaccines rates increased

Now omicron virus is raging 4x contagious different from Delta but the usual suspects are once again beating the anti virus Mantra saying now it look People who are vaccinated are getting covid (like it's the original ) or back to its no worse than the Flu (if your vaccinated that is) and yet again it's the unvaccinated filling the hospitals beds and Conservatives insisting its all a lie

we see the conspiracy Like covid deaths was being inflated

or they died from pneumonia not covid when in fact that covid caused the pneumonia simplistic excuses now used against Doctors who the right now considers enemies ! who are lying about covid and who dies from covid they need to attack because of their believe in conspiracy theories and all academia
is in on the Fraud

it's a recurring theme in all conservatives arguments

Jim in CT 01-12-2022 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1220507)
There were 100% unvaccinated before there was a vaccine. Yet deaths aren't dropping meaningfully, even though, what, 65% are vaccinated?


Jim 99% of those dying are unvaccinated why do you keep missing that part

During the 1st wave the original we locked down during the 1st covid and many states had mask mandates all contributed in reducing Deaths over all

then when the Vaccine came out and the right railed against it and Mask mandates then delta showed and Delta was worse than and more contagious but the right kept beating the anti vax drum yet Vaccines rates increased

Now omicron virus is raging 4x contagious different from Delta but the usual suspects are once again beating the anti virus Mantra saying now it look People who are vaccinated are getting covid (like it's the original ) or back to its no worse than the Flu (if your vaccinated that is) and yet again it's the unvaccinated filling the hospitals beds and Conservatives insisting its all a lie

we see the conspiracy Like covid deaths was being inflated

or they died from pneumonia not covid when in fact that covid caused the pneumonia simplistic excuses now used against Doctors who the right now considers enemies ! who are lying about covid and who dies from covid they need to attack because of their believe in conspiracy theories and all academia
is in on the Fraud

it's a recurring theme in all conservatives arguments

i’m not missing anything. i agree with you that most deaths are among the unvaccinated.

but since there were no vaccinated for most of Rrumos time dealing with covid, why are deaths higher now ( when tens of millions are vaccinated) than a year ago?

if vaccines prevent the vaccine vibrates from dying, shouldnt deaths decrease after the availability of the vaccine? there were MORE unvaccinated in 2020 than in 2021. so if this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated, why did deaths increase after half of america got vaccinated?
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Jim in CT 01-12-2022 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1220506)


And who in the GOP or the conservative landscape are trying to Help....

NOT MANY

OK, here is what you're saying...

In the first year of the virus (2020), Trump was president and the democrats controlled the house. The republicans controlled the senate. You say the deaths were trumps fault. You are saying the president owns the results. Fair enough.

In 2021, Biden is president, and the democrats control both chambers of congress. But the 2021 deaths aren't the president's fault, they are the GOPs fault.

Do you not see how stupid that is? The parties in control change, so you invert your logic so that no matter who is in control of what, bad outcomes are the GOPs fault.

Always, always, always.

Wayne, the democrats control the white house, the house and the senate. And you blame bad outcomes on the GOP?

Is there any conceivable scenario, in which you'd ever say, that a bad outcome was the democrats fault?

WDMSO: The democrats control the entire federal government right now. Therefore, I'll give them credit for all good outcomes. But I'll blame republicans for every single bad outcome.

God you crack me up.

homelessness in san francisco? the gop did it.

crime in Manhattan? the gops fault.

teachers strike in chicago? republicans are to blame.

Pete F. 01-12-2022 01:51 PM

Imagine that, a whole party thinking they are victims.
Wonder where they would get that idea?

scottw 01-12-2022 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1220527)
Imagine that, a whole party thinking they are victims.
Wonder where they would get that idea?

democrats...

Jim in CT 01-12-2022 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1220527)
Imagine that, a whole party thinking they are victims.
Wonder where they would get that idea?

get back to me after the november election, ask me if republicans are victims.

pete, why do you call it when someone blames bad covid outcomes on the president when the president is a republican…but blames the republicans for bad covid outcomes when the democrats control the entire federal government. i think that’s hysterical and absurd. i never said it makes me a victim.

what’s your record for most consecutive posts where you responded to something no one said?
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Jim in CT 01-12-2022 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1220529)
democrats...

seriously!
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Pete F. 01-12-2022 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1220533)
get back to me after the november election, ask me if republicans are victims.

pete, why do you call it when someone blames bad covid outcomes on the president when the president is a republican…but blames the republicans for bad covid outcomes when the democrats control the entire federal government. i think that’s hysterical and absurd. i never said it makes me a victim.

what’s your record for most consecutive posts where you responded to something no one said?
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Poor victim, constant projection from you and yours

Your ilk that yelled “Stop the Steal”, forged documents in a literal attempt to STEAL the election.

Anytime you hear a “rise in crime” or “spike in shootings,” remember: whatever they claim, is happening despite investing the most in policing in the history of the world. A brutal indictment of the efficacy of policing. Yet police are using their pathetic failures to demand more?

The GOP spent decades building a perpetual misinformation machine that was designed to radicalize their supporters, and now some are acting surprised that the people they radicalized have taken over their party.

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Jim in CT 01-12-2022 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1220552)
Poor victim, constant projection from you and yours

Your ilk that yelled “Stop the Steal”, forged documents in a literal attempt to STEAL the election.

Anytime you hear a “rise in crime” or “spike in shootings,” remember: whatever they claim, is happening despite investing the most in policing in the history of the world. A brutal indictment of the efficacy of policing. Yet police are using their pathetic failures to demand more?

The GOP spent decades building a perpetual misinformation machine that was designed to radicalize their supporters, and now some are acting surprised that the people they radicalized have taken over their party.

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i asked a simple straightforward question. you fled from it.
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Pete F. 01-12-2022 10:21 PM

Lovely people in the Floriduh DeathSantis administration, no wonder Trumplicans want to move there

John Kuczwanski, a Florida state agency spokesperson, was shot and killed during a road rage incident. Witnesses say he rammed his BMW into a Prius and then shot a gun at the car. The driver of the Prius drew a gun and fired back, killing him.
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Jim in CT 01-13-2022 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1220554)
Lovely people in the Floriduh DeathSantis administration, no wonder Trumplicans want to move there

John Kuczwanski, a Florida state agency spokesperson, was shot and killed during a road rage incident. Witnesses say he rammed his BMW into a Prius and then shot a gun at the car. The driver of the Prius drew a gun and fired back, killing him.
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that sure proves it. one bad apple, a guy no one has ever heard of.

FL is doomed now. Doomed.

What did you do, do a google search of “i desperately need to know of FL state employees who did bad things”?


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scottw 01-13-2022 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1220555)
that sure proves it. one bad apple, a guy no one has ever heard of.

FL is doomed now. Doomed.

What did you do, do a google search of “i desperately need to know of FL state employees who did bad things”?


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it's still being investigated, if you read the story it's a little bizarre, should probably wait till the police get witness stories and look at cameras from the area...or pete could just use it to condemn florida(we've seen this many times)

The Dad Fisherman 01-13-2022 07:43 AM

Gee, a kook in Florida, there's a surprise. Never heard of such a thing :rolleyes:
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Jim in CT 01-13-2022 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1220562)
Gee, a kook in Florida, there's a surprise. Never heard of such a thing :rolleyes:
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Lord knows there are no kooks in blue states like NY and CA. All the kooks are in Flori-duh.
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The Dad Fisherman 01-13-2022 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1220566)
Lord knows there are no kooks in blue states like NY and CA. All the kooks are in Flori-duh.
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Aaaahh......homes to both David Berkowitz and Charles Manson :hihi:
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Jim in CT 01-13-2022 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1220567)
Aaaahh......homes to both David Berkowitz and Charles Manson :hihi:
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and Andrew Cuomo, if we want to limit the discussion to kooks who are part of the state government.
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wdmso 01-13-2022 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1220514)
OK, here is what you're saying...

In the first year of the virus (2020), Trump was president and the democrats controlled the house. The republicans controlled the senate. You say the deaths were trumps fault. You are saying the president owns the results. Fair enough.

In 2021, Biden is president, and the democrats control both chambers of congress. But the 2021 deaths aren't the president's fault, they are the GOPs fault.

Do you not see how stupid that is? The parties in control change, so you invert your logic so that no matter who is in control of what, bad outcomes are the GOPs fault.

Always, always, always.

Wayne, the democrats control the white house, the house and the senate. And you blame bad outcomes on the GOP?

Is there any conceivable scenario, in which you'd ever say, that a bad outcome was the democrats fault?

WDMSO: The democrats control the entire federal government right now. Therefore, I'll give them credit for all good outcomes. But I'll blame republicans for every single bad outcome.

God you crack me up.

homelessness in san francisco? the gop did it.

crime in Manhattan? the gops fault.

teachers strike in chicago? republicans are to blame.


Again what party is fighting all things vaccine and masked related things to curb covid


THE GOP! Your in denial with the rest of the GOP but its about freedom

wdmso 01-13-2022 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1220562)
Gee, a kook in Florida, there's a surprise. Never heard of such a thing :rolleyes:
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John Kuczwanski thought it was Fauci in the prius

Jim in CT 01-13-2022 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1220578)
Again what party is fighting all things vaccine and masked related things to curb covid


THE GOP! Your in denial with the rest of the GOP but its about freedom

i’ve said 1,000 times that it’s embarrassing to me that the gop has such low vaccination rates.

i can criticize my side when we deserve it. you can’t, not once, not ever.
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scottw 01-13-2022 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1220579)
John Kuczwanski thought it was Fauci in the prius

pretty sure Fauchenstein drives a big Caddy...

Jim in CT 01-13-2022 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1220583)
pretty sure Fauchenstein drives a big Caddy...

with a vanity plate for sure.
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wdmso 01-13-2022 12:51 PM

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A Republican member of Congress drew swift condemnation Wednesday after comparing D.C.'s upcoming vaccine mandate to Nazi Germany — marking the latest instance in which a GOP lawmaker has chosen to compare measures intended to quell a public health emergency to Nazi practices that culminated in the genocide of millions of Jews.

He posted this on Twitter

looks like he tried to Apologize

"For my Jewish Friends, and all others, my sincere apologies," Davidson, a Republican from Troy, tweeted.

what about people he asserted were Nazi's no Apologize

Jim in CT 01-13-2022 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1220585)
A Republican member of Congress drew swift condemnation Wednesday after comparing D.C.'s upcoming vaccine mandate to Nazi Germany — marking the latest instance in which a GOP lawmaker has chosen to compare measures intended to quell a public health emergency to Nazi practices that culminated in the genocide of millions of Jews.

He posted this on Twitter

looks like he tried to Apologize

"For my Jewish Friends, and all others, my sincere apologies," Davidson, a Republican from Troy, tweeted.

what about people he asserted were Nazi's no Apologize

now biden said in tv this week that if you’re not on his side of voting reform, you’re George Wallace. When will he apologize?

Meanwhile a large majority of americans support voter id laws. does that make them segregationists wayne?

it’s wrong for a republican to broadly call the other side nazis, but ok when biden calls the other side segregationists?

here, let me answer for you: “false equivalence”.
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scottw 01-13-2022 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1220585)
A Republican member of Congress marking the latest instance in which a GOP lawmaker has chosen to compare measures to Nazi practices that culminated in the genocide of millions of Jews.

democrats never do this....

scottw 01-13-2022 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1220586)

now biden said in tv this week that if you’re not on his side of voting reform, you’re George Wallace.

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there are a bunch of democrat members of congress who oppose him on this who are apparently quite racist

scottw 01-13-2022 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1220586)

Meanwhile a large majority of americans support voter id laws.

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yeah but it's apparently harder to get an id than it is to get vaxxed twice, boosted once(for now), get a recent negative test and then provide all of that to order a hamburger

Pete F. 01-14-2022 06:16 AM

They lied to their base and killed tens of thousands just to be able to deliver the line Steve Scalise said today, "more people have died under President Biden's watch."

That's today's GOP.
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Jim in CT 01-14-2022 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1220623)
They lied to their base and killed tens of thousands just to be able to deliver the line Steve Scalise said today, "more people have died under President Biden's watch."

That's today's GOP.
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didnt Paul S very recently post a trump quote, where Trump praised vaccines and bragged that he was vaccinated and boosted?
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scottw 01-14-2022 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1220623)
They lied to their base and killed tens of thousands just to be able to deliver the line Steve Scalise said today, "more people have died under President Biden's watch."

That's today's GOP.

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ingenious....

Pete F. 01-14-2022 07:48 AM

Amazing how coincidentally this happened but he bears no responsibility at all. 🤡

Since last May, people living in counties that voted heavily for Trump have been nearly three times as likely to die from covid as those who live in areas that went for Biden.
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scottw 01-14-2022 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1220628)
Amazing how coincidentally this happened but he bears no responsibility at all. 🤡

Since last May, people living in counties that voted heavily for Trump have been nearly three times as likely to die from covid as those who live in areas that went for Biden.
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even more brilliant killing their own voters to hurt brandon:rollem:

Jim in CT 01-14-2022 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1220628)
Amazing how coincidentally this happened but he bears no responsibility at all. 🤡

Since last May, people living in counties that voted heavily for Trump have been nearly three times as likely to die from covid as those who live in areas that went for Biden.
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Pete, Trump is pro vaccine. He’s encouraging people to get vaccinated. So by what possible logic, could you say it’s his fault that republicans have low vaccination rates?

Is there anything in your kind that’s not Trumps fault?
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Pete F. 01-14-2022 08:00 AM

It isn’t everyday you can say thousands of Americans will likely die because of what the Supreme Court justices ruled. But today is such a day.
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Jim in CT 01-14-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1220631)
It isn’t everyday you can say thousands of Americans will likely die because of what the Supreme Court justices ruled. But today is such a day.
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it’s not their job to save lives. it’s their job to strike down that which violates the constitution.

Take a middle school civics class.

here’s Trump on the vaccine:

“the vaccine works, people aren’t dying who take the vaccine.”

yet you blame him for people not taking the vaccine.

that’s not crazy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ess/index.html
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Pete F. 01-14-2022 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1220630)
Pete, Trump is pro vaccine. He’s encouraging people to get vaccinated. So by what possible logic, could you say it’s his fault that republicans have low vaccination rates?

Is there anything in your kind that’s not Trumps fault?
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Just a coincidence, huh?

The GOP spent decades building a perpetual misinformation machine that was designed to radicalize their supporters, and now some are acting surprised that the people they radicalized have taken over their party.


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Jim in CT 01-14-2022 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1220633)
Just a coincidence, huh?

The GOP spent decades building a perpetual misinformation machine that was designed to radicalize their supporters, and now some are acting surprised that the people they radicalized have taken over their party.


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i don’t know who said that nonsense about the misinformation machine.

trump is on video saying the vaccine saves lives.

So for the second time, please explain how he is the reason why people aren’t getting vaccinated.

It’s fact that republicans have very poor vaccination rates. But what’s the evidence it’s trumps fault, if he’s telling people
to get vaccinated?

You’re denying facts that don’t serve your Narrative.

I hate that republicans have low vaccination rates. it makes my side
look stupid. But i can still
admit that fact, because i’m not crazy.

You hate that Trump is pro vaccine. You can’t admit that fact, because you are crazy. crazy with TDS.
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Pete F. 01-14-2022 08:38 AM

It’s always sorta kinda with your man

“I would recommend it, and I would recommend it to a lot of people that don’t want to get it, and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly,” he said during the Tuesday phone interview. “It is a great vaccine. It is a safe vaccine and it is something that works.”

But Trump’s endorsement was not unequivocal. Immediately after recommending his supporters get vaccinated, Trump offered an apologia for those who refuse, saying, “we have our freedoms, and we have to live by that. And I agree with that also.”

“Die with your nose tubes in.” The 21st Century GOP definition of freedom.
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wdmso 01-14-2022 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1220586)
now biden said in tv this week that if you’re not on his side of voting reform, you’re George Wallace. When will he apologize?

Yes jim Biden said something that butt hurt Republicans , it's funny what you excuse as hyperbole in others AKA Trump and the GOP is always seen an taken as 100x serious from Biden (cancer handling covid ) to name a few

let's take a historical view of elected Republicans use of threats incendiary rhetoric secession and seditious language ... you will see a list 3x longer from republicans than the Democrats but you'll once again present the defense both sides do it

Meanwhile a large majority of americans support voter id laws. does that make them segregationists wayne?


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Jim Meanwhile a large majority of americans support More Gun Control hows that working? An August 2019 Fox News poll of registered voters found 90% of respondents favored universal background checks, 81% supported taking guns from at-risk individuals, and 67% favored banning assault weapons. According to a Pew Research Center poll, "roughly half of Americans (53%) favor stricter gun laws

Public Supports Both Early Voting And Requiring Photo ID to Vote you are correct but you are missing the rest of the story

A large majority (71%) of the public feels in-person early voting should generally be made easier. Just 16% say it should be made harder. Opinion is more divided on voting by mail – 50% say this should be made easier and 39% say it should be made harder. At the same time, fully 4 in 5 Americans (80%) support requiring voters to show photo identification in order to cast a ballot. Just 18% oppose this.
If the voting thing was just about Voter ID maybe would have a valid
Point

the GOP is AGAINST anything that increase participaction.. why they are against a having a voting holiday, drop boxes, early voting, automatic voter enrolment , mail in ballots and expanding forms of voter ID ? why not get involved in these Bill ?

we know the answer because they can't because the base can't accept losing ! SO Trump and the GOP have convinced this Base they lost because of Fraud, no Id ,drop boxes ,early voting ,mail in voting even the voting Machines are in on the Steal . and real Americans vote in person..

And many of these people who are against making voting easier. will just use doordash ... for Burger king for its convenience?


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