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Jim in CT 06-18-2019 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168767)
WTF are you talking about?
You believe some bizarre things
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and here’s video of biden saying you can’t walk into a 7-11 or dunkin’ donuts without an indian accent. You said it was "bizarre" that I claimed Biden said these things, here's video evidence. Have anything else you wish to say to me?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sM19YOqs7hU


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Jim in CT 06-18-2019 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1168685)
The right dosen't understand how corporate America is in the game to limit choice
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as opposed to, say, public sector labor unions, who as we ALL know, welcome the idea of choice and competition to keep costs down for the consumer. your union doesn’t do anything to gouge the consumer, no sir. The unions are all about keeping taxes as low as possible for their customers.

Your union gets liberals elected, who then reward you with benefits that dwarf what’s available in the private sector, and then those in the private sector have zero choice
but to pay the taxes to fund those lavish benefits.

You complain about atm fees and airline baggage fees, how about the increased taxes your neighbors are forced to pay, because your union gets crooked politicians to increase taxes to pay for your lavish benefits?

here in ct, our unfunded debts for union benefits are more than $35,000 for every human being in the state. That’s $175,000 for my family of 5. You think i should
be concerned about ATM fees? The banks are the problem?

you are correct, it used to be that one person working 40 hours a week would pay the bills. those days are pretty much gone, and i think that has been a disaster for families and children, an absolute disaster. i’m not sure the GOP caused it. how did conservatism cause that exactly?
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Pete F. 06-18-2019 10:32 AM

Trump made it worse.
The tax cuts of 2017 further turbocharged economic inequities through an act of fiscal profligacy which ballooned our deficit for the benefit of corporations and the wealthy—justified, yet again, by resuscitating the discredited notion that under-taxing “wealth creators” stimulated the economy while paying for itself.

The bill distributed more than 80 percent of its individual benefits to the top 1 percent of households; the bulk of the $150 billion rebated to corporations in 2018 funded shareholder dividends and stock buy-backs—which amounted to little more than a gift to the 10 percent of Americans who own 84 percent of all stocks. This lopsided largesse was possible only through creating a $1.5 trillion deficit over the next 10 years, generating a brief economic sugar high, which is already dissipating.

spence 06-18-2019 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168774)
then on msnbc yesterday, he suggested a “ real, physical revolution” to deal with republicans. yeah i was way off, huh?
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I think you're beyond way off.

Jim in CT 06-18-2019 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1168797)
I think you're beyond way off.

instead of lobbing baseless insults, you could look it up
and you’d see that he said exactly what i claimed he said. I am certain he didn’t mean it, but that’s what he said.
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Jim in CT 06-18-2019 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168796)
Trump made it worse.
The tax cuts of 2017 further turbocharged economic inequities through an act of fiscal profligacy which ballooned our deficit for the benefit of corporations and the wealthy—justified, yet again, by resuscitating the discredited notion that under-taxing “wealth creators” stimulated the economy while paying for itself.

The bill distributed more than 80 percent of its individual benefits to the top 1 percent of households; the bulk of the $150 billion rebated to corporations in 2018 funded shareholder dividends and stock buy-backs—which amounted to little more than a gift to the 10 percent of Americans who own 84 percent of all stocks. This lopsided largesse was possible only through creating a $1.5 trillion deficit over the next 10 years, generating a brief economic sugar high, which is already dissipating.

when the stick
market soars, i come inequality gets worse. No one can prevent that. you think it didn’t happen under obama? would
you prefer that we have a depression and nobody has anything?

This obsession with what others have...it’s stupid, meaningless, unhealthy, and unproductive. no one would be better off if the fabulously wealthy didn’t exist. No one.
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spence 06-18-2019 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168801)
instead of lobbing baseless insults, you could look it up
and you’d see that he said exactly what i claimed he said. I am certain he didn’t mean it, but that’s what he said.
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So what?

Jim in CT 06-18-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1168803)
So what?

so if
you’re ok with biden promising a cure for cancer, and if you’re ok with him saying we need a physical
altercation to deal with republicans, you have no right to complain about trumps outlandish statements.

i said biden was a jerk, you said no one believes that. i supplied evidence to supported my statement that he’s a jerk.

you only care when republicans behave poorly, and always excuse it when democrats do the same.
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Jim in CT 06-18-2019 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1168797)
I think you're beyond way off.

and i think i’m exactly on point.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/48516...-ryan-saavedra

Spence, why is only an issue for you, when Trump says outlandish things? Why do all
democrats get a pass from you, when they say outlandish things?
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Pete F. 06-19-2019 03:41 AM

Hmmmm, I assume this is acceptable.
President Trump has promised to cure cancer, eradicate AIDS, and ensure that American astronauts land on Mars if he wins a second term. “We will push onward with new medical frontiers. We will come up with the cures to many, many problems, to many, many diseases—including cancer and others and we’re getting closer all the time,” Trump said to a cheering crowd at his rally in Orlando, Florida, on Tuesday night. “We will eradicate AIDS in America once and for all and we’re very close. We will lay the foundation for landing American astronauts on the surface of Mars.”
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Sea Dangles 06-19-2019 04:50 AM

Clearly the greatest president of our lives
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scottw 06-19-2019 04:56 AM

I wonder if Pete can keep this up for another 4+ years

scottw 06-19-2019 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168829)
Hmmmm, I assume this is acceptable.
President Trump has promised to cure cancer, eradicate AIDS, and ensure that American astronauts land on Mars if he wins a second term. “We will push onward with new medical frontiers. We will come up with the cures to many, many problems, to many, many diseases—including cancer and others and we’re getting closer all the time,” Trump said to a cheering crowd at his rally in Orlando, Florida, on Tuesday night. “We will eradicate AIDS in America once and for all and we’re very close. We will lay the foundation for landing American astronauts on the surface of Mars.”
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that's awesome :humpty:

RIROCKHOUND 06-19-2019 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168829)
Hmmmm, I assume this is acceptable.
President Trump has promised to cure cancer, eradicate AIDS, and ensure that American astronauts land on Mars if he wins a second term. “We will push onward with new medical frontiers. We will come up with the cures to many, many problems, to many, many diseases—including cancer and others and we’re getting closer all the time,” Trump said to a cheering crowd at his rally in Orlando, Florida, on Tuesday night. “We will eradicate AIDS in America once and for all and we’re very close. We will lay the foundation for landing American astronauts on the surface of Mars.”
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Damn him for giving hope to terminal cancer patients, AIDS patience AND kids who want to go to Mars.....
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Rmarsh 06-19-2019 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1168830)
Clearly the greatest president of our lives
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Yes he is. I voted for him and will vote for him again.
Immigration is my #1 issue....I work in a trade that imo has been ruined...overrun with illegals, working for lower wages, doing substandard work, no insurances, rude and disrespectful....got to watch your tools or they will help themselves.

The Dad Fisherman 06-19-2019 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1168830)
Clearly the greatest president of our lives
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https://assets.change.org/photos/1/r...x450-noPad.jpg

scottw 06-19-2019 06:06 AM

^^^ that's gonna leave a mark :rotflmao:

Jim in CT 06-19-2019 06:10 AM

Pete, when i claimed
biden said some outlandish and offensive things, you called me “bizarre” for suggesting biden said those things. so i posted videos of biden saying exactly what i claimed he said. Did you miss those videos? i didn’t see you comment on them.

again, it would be nice to have a set of rules
applied consistently to presidents of both parties. both sides engage in this hypocrisy, but Trump hatred has taken that hypocrisy to new heights.
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RIROCKHOUND 06-19-2019 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168432)
i’d rather he promised that, because he can deliver on that. promising desperate cancer patients that their lives depend on him getting elected, is ghoulish.
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Quoting for posterity since trump added AIDS to this list as well.....
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Jim in CT 06-19-2019 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1168850)
Quoting for posterity since trump added AIDS to this list as well.....
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did trump explicitly promise a cure, only on the condition that he get elected, bryan? if he did, well, we already knew he was a jerk. if he didn’t, dont compare him to someone who did.
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PaulS 06-19-2019 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168829)
Hmmmm, I assume this is acceptable.
President Trump has promised to cure cancer, eradicate AIDS, and ensure that American astronauts land on Mars if he wins a second term. “We will push onward with new medical frontiers. We will come up with the cures to many, many problems, to many, many diseases—including cancer and others and we’re getting closer all the time,” Trump said to a cheering crowd at his rally in Orlando, Florida, on Tuesday night. “We will eradicate AIDS in America once and for all and we’re very close. We will lay the foundation for landing American astronauts on the surface of Mars.”
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You're misunderstanding. It is different bc Trump built miles of new wa...ah Trump made other nations respect....ah Trump brought back clean coa… ah Trump wiped out the defi….ah Trump tells it like it....ah..

Nevermind.

Pete F. 06-19-2019 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168845)

again, it would be nice to have a set of rules
applied consistently to presidents of both parties. both sides engage in this hypocrisy, but Trump has taken that hypocrisy to new heights.
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Fixed it for you

Pete F. 06-19-2019 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168855)
did trump explicitly promise a cure, only on the condition that he get elected, bryan? if he did, well, we already knew he was a jerk. if he didn’t, dont compare him to someone who did.
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Yes, though probably he was joking again.
SAD, it's acceptable if it's your hero. (that you don't really like)

Jim in CT 06-19-2019 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168862)
Yes, though probably he was joking again.
SAD, it's acceptable if it's your hero. (that you don't really like)

let’s back up. when i said biden said some awful things, you said it was “bizarre” of me to believe he said them. so i posted the videos showing he said exactly what i claimed he said. exactly.

did you ever respond to that? is it still bizarre for
me to claim Biden said those things?

obama separated
kids from parents at the birder. No one said anything. Trump expands in that, and he gets accused of setting up concentration camps, if being this monster. Why was it acceptable for obama to do
it?

this is the hypocrisy and derangement. pointing that out, doesn’t make me a trump sympathizer. i hate trump, but i think criticism should
be fair and accurate. not tinfoil
hat wearing gibberish.
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Pete F. 06-19-2019 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168864)
let’s back up. when i said biden said some awful things, you said it was “bizarre” of me to believe he said them. so i posted the videos showing he said exactly what i claimed he said. exactly.

did you ever respond to that? is it still bizarre for
me to claim Biden said those things?

obama separated
kids from parents at the birder. No one said anything. Trump expands in that, and he gets accused of setting up concentration camps, if being this monster. Why was it acceptable for obama to do
it?

this is the hypocrisy and derangement. pointing that out, doesn’t make me a trump sympathizer. i hate trump, but i think criticism should
be fair and accurate. not tinfoil
hat wearing gibberish.
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The difference between Trump and almost any other politician is quantity. No politician has been perfect in beliefs or gaffe free to my knowledge, but none have broken the envelope in the way Trump has. Apparently he is acceptable to you. SAD

spence 06-19-2019 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168864)
did you ever respond to that? is it still bizarre for
me to claim Biden said those things?

What is bizarre is your insistence on claiming moral parity when there is none.

scottw 06-19-2019 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168875)
The difference between Trump and almost any other politician is quantity. No politician has been perfect in beliefs or gaffe free to my knowledge, but none have broken the envelope in the way Trump has.

this is a pretty myopic view

scottw 06-19-2019 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1168877)
What is bizarre is your insistence on claiming moral parity when there is none.

this is dumb

spence 06-19-2019 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168879)
this is dumb

You've got it also.

Jim in CT 06-19-2019 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168875)
The difference between Trump and almost any other politician is quantity. No politician has been perfect in beliefs or gaffe free to my knowledge, but none have broken the envelope in the way Trump has. Apparently he is acceptable to you. SAD

You dodged my question completely. Was it "bizarre" for me to claim Biden said those things? Or is there proof that he actually said them? Do you stand my the insult you threw at me?

So you agree that past presidents, some of whom you support, did the same things Trump does. He just des it more often.

I completely, 100% agree with that statement. So stop acting as if the others didn't do the same exact thing, with your approval.

"Apparently he is acceptable to you"

His behavior is unacceptable to me, for the 1,000th time. But like with my CEO, I can put up with him being a jerk, if he makes my life better. Trump is making my life better IMO, so if he wants to be a world-class jerk along the way, that's better than a well-mannered idiot who can't do anything right. Isn't it?

It's also worth pointing out that his opponent in the 2016 election, also took lying, greed, and corruption to new heights. She wasn't as crass or as vulgar as Trump, but a disgusting person nonetheless.

Character wasn't on the ballot in 2016.

Jim in CT 06-19-2019 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1168877)
What is bizarre is your insistence on claiming moral parity when there is none.

He insulted me when I claimed Biden said some things, said it was bizarre that I could accuse Biden of saying them. You claimed that no sane person thinks Biden is a jerk. So I posted multiple videos of Biden saying the exact things I claimed he said. Neither of you had it in you, to admit I was right. What does that say about you two?

Pete F. 06-19-2019 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168883)
You dodged my question completely. Was it "bizarre" for me to claim Biden said those things? Or is there proof that he actually said them? Do you stand my the insult you threw at me?

So you agree that past presidents, some of whom you support, did the same things Trump does. He just des it more often.

I completely, 100% agree with that statement. So stop acting as if the others didn't do the same exact thing, with your approval.

"Apparently he is acceptable to you"

His behavior is unacceptable to me, for the 1,000th time. But like with my CEO, I can put up with him being a jerk, if he makes my life better. Trump is making my life better IMO, so if he wants to be a world-class jerk along the way, that's better than a well-mannered idiot who can't do anything right. Isn't it?

It's also worth pointing out that his opponent in the 2016 election, also took lying, greed, and corruption to new heights. She wasn't as crass or as vulgar as Trump, but a disgusting person nonetheless.

Character wasn't on the ballot in 2016.

Sorry if you are insulted, I assumed you were happy that you found the backup for your claim and your ego didn't need my approval.

Everyone can screw up, the difference between a moral person and in immoral one is knowing that you did, apologizing if needed.
Still waiting to see Trump do that once.

Trump is a congenital liar and that is unacceptable to me.

Not many CEOs i've worked for or known have been jerks, a few but they were not the most successful ones. One was comparable in narcissism to Trump, he committed suicide eventually.
I'm sorry that you have to work for a jerk and perhaps you should make your feelings known, I'm sure he'd appreciate the criticism and comparison.

Hillary lost the electoral college years ago, get over it.

Hopefully there will be a worthy candidate and character will count in this election.

Jim in CT 06-19-2019 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168887)
Sorry if you are insulted, I assumed you were happy that you found the backup for your claim and your ego didn't need my approval.

Everyone can screw up, the difference between a moral person and in immoral one is knowing that you did, apologizing if needed.
Still waiting to see Trump do that once.

Trump is a congenital liar and that is unacceptable to me.

Not many CEOs i've worked for or known have been jerks, a few but they were not the most successful ones. One was comparable in narcissism to Trump, he committed suicide eventually.
I'm sorry that you have to work for a jerk and perhaps you should make your feelings known, I'm sure he'd appreciate the criticism and comparison.

Hillary lost the electoral college years ago, get over it.

Hopefully there will be a worthy candidate and character will count in this election.

"Sorry if you are insulted"

You asked me to answer your question, I took it head-on. I asked you to answer my question, you refused. I tried. Have a good day Pete.

wdmso 06-20-2019 07:15 AM

Jim. Just saw a clip of Trump at a campaign rally Monday Stating were going to fix cancer ... spin that.

At the president's official re-election kickoff event on Tuesday, Don Jr. mocked Joe Biden over his cancer moonshot. And the crowd went wild. !!!! And a mere few hours later President Trump said 'we' will come up with a cure for many diseases, including cancer.

What reality does his supporters live in ??
I
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Jim in CT 06-20-2019 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1168932)
Jim. Just saw a clip of Trump at a campaign rally Monday Stating were going to fix cancer ... spin that.

At the president's official re-election kickoff event on Tuesday, Don Jr. mocked Joe Biden over his cancer moonshot. And the crowd went wild. !!!! And a mere few hours later President Trump said 'we' will come up with a cure for many diseases, including cancer.

What reality does his supporters live in ??
I
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here’s my spin, i saw it too. i don’t like when biden makes promises he can’t keep, i dont like it when Trump does it. I hold them both to the same standard. Anything hypocritical about that?

However, from what i saw, Trump didn’t say that curing cancer was
contingent to his getting elected. he didn’t say we’d cure cancer, only if he was elected.

i liked the cancer moonshot initiative. setting lofty goals
and sharing hope, is good. telling people that they will live only if you get elected, is bad.

Here’s the reality I live in. Trump signed the “right to try” act, which gives sick people who haven’t been helped
by established treatments, the right to try experimental treatment not yet approved by the FDA. no one before trump bothered to sign what is such an obvious thing. He signed it, and it’s irrefutable fact that people are alive today because of it. Obama or bush could easily have signed that, they chose not to.

trump absolutely deserves credit for that. is he a jerk? hell yes. did he do something no one else bothered to do, to save lives? hell, yes.

what do you think?
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Pete F. 06-20-2019 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168939)
here’s my spin, i saw it too. i don’t like when biden makes promises he can’t keep, i dont like it when Trump does it. I hold them both to the same standard. Anything hypocritical about that?

However, from what i saw, Trump didn’t say that curing cancer was
contingent to his getting elected. he didn’t say we’d cure cancer, only if he was elected. Really? As usual, you try and use semantics to excuse Trump and demonize others to justify Trump's behavior. Typical Obergruppensplainer behavior.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7zOgxQ5E38

i liked the cancer moonshot initiative. setting lofty goals
and sharing hope, is good. telling people that they will live only if you get elected, is bad.

Here’s the reality I live in. Trump signed the “right to try” act, which gives sick people who haven’t been helped
by established treatments, the right to try experimental treatment not yet approved by the FDA. no one before trump bothered to sign what is such an obvious thing. He signed it, and it’s irrefutable fact that people are alive today because of it. Obama or bush could easily have signed that, they chose not to.

trump absolutely deserves credit for that. is he a jerk? hell yes. did he do something no one else bothered to do, to save lives? hell, yes.

what do you think?
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Ask your physician about Right to Try and get his opinion.

Talk about giving false hope.

Or do a little research outside of the far right media, follow the money. I bet you'll end up at CTCA.

scottw 06-20-2019 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168939)

here’s my spin, i saw it too. i don’t like when biden makes promises he can’t keep, i dont like it when Trump does it. I hold them both to the same standard. Anything hypocritical about that?

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trumplican always defending trump and his base!!!#$#@!!!

trump didn't sound as dumb as biden and that has them perplexed...also, trump fills stadiums biden can't draw flies :jester:




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Jim in CT 06-20-2019 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168945)
Ask your physician about Right to Try and get his opinion.

Talk about giving false hope.

Or do a little research outside of the far right media, follow the money. I bet you'll end up at CTCA.

“we’ll come up with a cure for cancer and we’re getting closer all
the time”. what trump said. not how i would have liked him to say it.

“if i’m elected...i promise we’ll cure cancer”. what biden said. there are semantic differences, you’re right!

they’re both disgusting people.

gotta get back to puttin y’all back in chains! which you denied he said, then never ever commented on it after i showed the video, because unlike me, you are physically incapable of criticizing politicians whose policies you like.
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Jim in CT 06-20-2019 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168948)
trumplican always defending trump and his base!!!#$#@!!!

trump didn't sound as dumb as biden and that has them perplexed...also, trump fills stadiums biden can't draw flies :jester:




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trump packs stadiums, biden can’t fill the atrium of an apartment complex. i still don’t see how trump could beat biden, but (1) i said thee thing about hilary and i was as foolishly wrong as everyone else, and (2) i can’t see biden getting the nomination. they’re too wrapped
up in identity politics. if the superdelegates were still around in their old form, that would help biden. the democrats are too busy looking for a transgender, orphaned, native american candidate who is in a wheelchair, someone who checks off all the “victim” boxes. they should
create one in a lab at CNN.
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scottw 06-20-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168951)

i still don’t see how trump could beat biden,

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you said the same thing about hillary


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