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buckman 01-27-2016 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1092104)

If other Secretaries like Colin Powell were using private email it would only make sense to investigate that as well. If there's demand for those emails to be released you'll very likely see the same pattern of redactions and retroactive classification we're seeing with Clinton.

That is the defense strategy of a guilty administration . You're making my argument.
Do you keep picking on Colin Powell because he's black ?
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Jim in CT 01-27-2016 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1092095)
right...so her server will get indicted for mishandling classified material and she can continue to run for president

To quote Mater, "I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there!"

scottw 01-27-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1092116)
To quote Mater, "I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there!"

even funnier when Spence didn't get it:laughs:

detbuch 01-27-2016 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1092080)
I think that's long since been addressed.

Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.

Jim in CT 01-27-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1092122)
Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.

And yet as unlikeable as she is, the GOP is on the verge of nominating someone who would not only hand her the Presidency, he might well give Congress back to them, too. There are a lot more GOP senate seats up for re-election that Democrat (twice as many, I think). Trump will galvanize Democrats, and keep conservatives home. Incredible.

The Democrats are begging us to take the Oval Office by going with her, and we are saying "no, thanks, and you can keep Congress, too".

Sigh.

I hear Paraguay is pretty nice.

spence 01-27-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1092109)
if you need a refresher course...just read any of your posts :rtfm:

"A lie is a statement that is known or intended by its source to be misleading, inaccurate, or false"

don't fret...if we've learned anything from the Clinton's it's that lies are frequent, necessary and often admirable when well told....

Can you name ONE?

Jim in CT 01-27-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1092125)
Can you name ONE?

Really? My text in quotation marks is to the best of my recollection...

Bill: "I did not have inappropriate sexual relations with that girl (Monica Lewinski)". The man was disbarred. Even among lawyers, he stands out as being immoral, and that's saying something.

Hilary - (1) "Bill did not cheat on me (see his lie above), but we are the victims (violins, please) of a vast right-wing conspiracy". Not just any right-wing conspiracy mind you, but a vast one. Vast. (2) "We were 'broke' when we left the White House". If that's true, and it's not, where did they get the money to reimburse the feds for all the loot they stole out of the White House and Air Force One, on their way out of town? I think they took the piano, rugs, ashtrays, light fixtures, copper wiring, dinner china, etc...(3) something about coming under sniper fire somewhere...?

Is that enough?

spence 01-27-2016 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1092112)
That is the defense strategy of a guilty administration . You're making my argument.
Do you keep picking on Colin Powell because he's black ?
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Did you even read my post? That doesn't make any sense.

I'm not picking on Powell, he came out and said he basically did the same thing.

scottw 01-27-2016 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1092128)
Did you even read my post? That doesn't make any sense.

I'm not picking on Powell, he came out and said he basically did the same thing.

sounded pretty racist to me ;)

spence 01-27-2016 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1092127)
Really? My text in quotation marks is to the best of my recollection...

If you're going to use quotes you should actually quote.

He said every one of my posts I assumed he was calling me a liar.

spence 01-27-2016 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1092122)
Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.

Well, at least your not stretching :huh:

buckman 01-27-2016 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1092128)
Did you even read my post? That doesn't make any sense.

I'm not picking on Powell, he came out and said he basically did the same thing.

Yes I read your post. We all know that the state department would not be investigating the other Secretaries of State, in the hope of finding somebody who did something halfway similar to what Hillary did unless it could be used to somehow justify what Hillary had done .
You keep bringing up Powell for some reason , as bringing up his name makes him somehow guilty of the same thing . You know he had a new system , an undependable system and you know they were working on problems. So my only conclusion is , you don't like black people .
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detbuch 01-27-2016 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1092132)
Well, at least your not stretching :huh:

Why on earth would I imitate your style? :screwy:

You will find that I was spot on if you would do the search. Of course, knowing how you wander off topic into your own version of the context, the search would only confirm your own perspective. Which would just turn up apples instead of oranges.

Besides, this has long since been addressed.

spence 01-27-2016 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1092134)
Yes I read your post. We all know that the state department would not be investigating the other Secretaries of State, in the hope of finding somebody who did something halfway similar to what Hillary did unless it could be used to somehow justify what Hillary had done .
You keep bringing up Powell for some reason , as bringing up his name makes him somehow guilty of the same thing . You know he had a new system , an undependable system and you know they were working on problems. So my only conclusion is , you don't like black people .
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The State Department isn't investigating the former Secretaries email, the FBI is...I don't believe it was State's request. I would assume they're trying to ascertain if this is a systemic issue or something more recent.

Your Powell remark continues to make no sense. At the time he was trying to modernize the state.gov computers get people to use email, he's publicly stated he didn't realize there was any issue with using private email.

detbuch 01-27-2016 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1092130)
sounded pretty racist to me ;)

It's probably some code . . .

scottw 01-28-2016 05:04 AM

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Can you name ONE?

If you're going to use quotes you should actually quote.

He said every one of my posts I assumed he was calling me a liar.

"You guys use the word lie so much I'm not sure what it means any more."I don't believe you

"I don't believe the legality of the server is not being investigated" this is a good one :)

"The FBI doesn't have the power to indict neither Clinton or her server." you have this weird double negative thing going on lately

"I would assume they're trying to ascertain if this is a systemic issue or something more recent." it's an HRC issue

"If they did find evidence of criminal behavior there would have to be a grand jury and federal prosecutor before anyone could be indicted, which isn't likely in any case..." really?

"The FBI investigation is about potential mishandling of information, it's not focused on Hillary Clinton." again...it's an HRC issue

"Clinton's not an IT person, she likely had someone tell her it was good enough for non-sensitive communication. " this is laughable for so many reasons

"Intuition." even more laughable


you can assume what you'd like, perhaps the reason you can't tell what lie means anymore is actually because you spend so much time torturing the truth and it's all just a blur to you, it certainly is with the Clinton's where we've learned that we need to dissect each statement because they amuse themselves by playing wordsmith with each in order to deflect or cover their asses ....I'm sure you have a more "gray" concept of what a lie is but I provided a simple black and white definition for you....
"A lie is a statement that is known or intended by its source to be misleading, inaccurate, or false"....this is just the current page, the previous contain a wealth of dubious sophistry....I know...I know...all taken out of "context":D

scottw 01-28-2016 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1092091)

And of course the state department would ask for the last four Secretaries of State to be investgated also .

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of course, don't you recall when Nixon was being investigated....I mean when Nixon's TAPES were being investigate for wrong doing.... the previous 5 Presidents tapes were also investigated to determine if there was anything incriminating on them or if they erased stuff...or....you know...if the tapes had somehow mishandled themselves ?

The Dad Fisherman 01-28-2016 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1092104)

If other Secretaries like Colin Powell were using private email it would only make sense to investigate that as well. If there's demand for those emails to be released you'll very likely see the same pattern of redactions and retroactive classification we're seeing with Clinton.

How about we focus on the one SOS who is actually RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.....
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spence 01-28-2016 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1092162)
How about we focus on the one SOS who is actually RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.....
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Well, you have to establish a baseline. If others using private email to transfer similar information then Clinton's behavior isn't quite so scandalous now is it?

The Dad Fisherman 01-28-2016 10:44 AM

So now we are fine tuning the rules against a baseline? Thought rules were rules
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justplugit 01-28-2016 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1092122)
Yup, and Hillary has been found to be incompetent.


"Stupid is what stupid does."

Oh, and she changed her tune again, yesterday I saw where she said,
I did nothing wrong, where several weeks ago she apologized. Unstable at the least.

scottw 01-30-2016 04:48 AM

oh my!?!@...must be a Friday

The State Department is refusing to release another seven e-mail chains comprising 37 pages of correspondence, with one intelligence official telling Fox News the messages are “too damaging” to make public under any circumstances. Intelligence sources said they were concerned copies of the e-mails may exist elsewhere, and even a partial release could allow those actors to identify “special access programs,” intelligence that exists at a level of classification above “top secret.” It’s a reversal for the State Department, who for months argued against the intelligence community’s assessment that at least 2 of Clinton’s e-mails contained highly classified information. Now the number has ballooned to 22, and the State Department refuses to challenge the intelligence community’s assessment.

January 29 at 9:22 PM
The State Department acknowledged for the first time Friday that “top secret” information has been found in emails that passed through the private email server Hillary Clinton used while leading the agency, elevating the issue in the presidential campaign three days before the hotly contested Iowa caucuses.

The State Department’s conclusion came as it has worked to process 55,000 pages of Clinton’s correspondence for public release, including about 1,000 pages that were released Friday night. Clinton has said that she deleted 31,000 additional emails in 2014, deeming them purely personal.

The State Department has been under a court order to release the documents in batches, once a month, as part of a lawsuit filed by reporter Jason Leopold of Vice News, who sued after the department failed to respond promptly to his request for the public documents.

A judge had ordered the department to release all of the emails by the end of January, but attorneys for the department said this week that they would miss the deadline, (we know how this administration treats redlines and deadlines)and requested another month.

That means the last of Clinton’s emails will not be released until the end of February — after the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary — and just before Super Tuesday, when voters in 11 states will cast ballots.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...tary-of-state/

scottw 01-30-2016 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1091841)
I'm not really a big Clinton supporter to be honest. Hoping Bloomberg jumps in the race...

brilliant

If former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg carries through and runs for president as an independent, a Reuters poll shows that his candidacy would hurt the Democrats and give a boost to Donald Trump.

In a matchup between Trump and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, adding Bloomberg's name to the ballot would trim Clinton's lead over Trump to six percentage points from 10, according to the poll conducted from Jan. 23 to Jan. 27.

In a Trump versus Democratic hopeful Bernie Sanders matchup, adding Bloomberg would erode Sanders' lead over Trump to seven points from 12, the poll results showed.

In all matchups, Bloomberg himself would land just 10 percent or less of the vote in November.

Raven 01-30-2016 08:39 AM

she's even a terrible liar....

wdmso 01-30-2016 08:59 AM

The State Department said the messages were "top secret" and could not be released.

Spokesman John Kirby said the emails were not marked classified at the time they were sent.

You can't retroactively commit a crime .. no matter how much you dislike a person

Clintons emails are like a slot machine for conservatives just like Benghazi they keep throwing money into it and pulling the lever like an old lady at Foxwoods and getting a few quarters now and them to keep them hopeful waiting to hit the jackpot ??

scottw 01-30-2016 09:23 AM

I think only a blind partisan could dismiss a high level government official running all of this government business through their personal email and private unsecured server...;)

detbuch 01-30-2016 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1092296)
I think only a blind partisan could dismiss a high level government official running all of this government business through their personal email and private unsecured server...;)

See, but, it only matters if it is "legal" or not. Being stupid or incompetent does not matter . . . can make you fit to be POTUS.

wdmso 01-30-2016 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1092296)
I think only a blind partisan could dismiss a high level government official running all of this government business through their personal email and private unsecured server...;)


and only a blind partisan would think her Server was a was a secret

From the Government she worked for..

MAC 01-30-2016 05:32 PM

Trump for President

scottw 01-30-2016 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1092312)
and only a blind partisan would think her Server was a was a secret

From the Government she worked for..


I guess you're referring to Obama :rolleyes:

"President Obama discovered former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s use of personal email at the same time as news readers.

Obama, after delivering a Saturday speech in Selma, Ala., was asked when he found out about Clinton’s personal email system run from her Chappaqua home.

“The same time everybody else learned it through news reports,” he told CBS News."

Nebe 01-30-2016 07:50 PM

Aren't you guys sick of this yet?
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justplugit 01-30-2016 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1092337)
Aren't you guys sick of this yet?
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Not till we see how the teflon doll squirms out of it. :)

MAC 01-31-2016 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1092337)
Aren't you guys sick of this yet?
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Yes

I look forward to seeing a picture of her doing the perp walk.

GO TRUMP

Nebe 01-31-2016 07:56 AM

The proper rallying cry is Heil Trump!
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MAC 01-31-2016 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1092356)
The proper rallying cry is Heil Trump!
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If anyone here did what Shillary did, they would be behind bars right now.

The average joe is sick of how Washington is being run now and finally waking up.

The main thing I see with Trump is that he is beholden to no one.
That scares Washington elites as he wants to upset the apple cart.

I say go for it.

The majority of politicians forgot that they work for us.

scottw 01-31-2016 08:07 AM

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The proper rallying cry is Heil Trump!
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you seem to keep forgetting or you are unaware that Hitler was a democratic socialist and a very independent thinker :spin:

The Dad Fisherman 01-31-2016 08:42 AM

If those are our two choices come November I will be writing in " Common Sense" as my vote for president.
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scottw 01-31-2016 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1092361)
If those are our two choices come November I will be writing in " Common Sense" as my vote for president.
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I don't like Trump, I listen to him speak and he says absolutely nothing....he does have entertainment value in that he's an equal opportunity offender...you need only to look at National Review online to see that he has no love from Conservatives and the establishment has bristled but may be cautiously warming as they begin to think he's inevitable, he makes many on the left insane because he provides and easy target for their pent up rage.....I believe he just referred to Cruz as an "Anchor Baby" which is hilarious.....he appears to be most popular from what I can see with people that aren't that politically motivated at other times and from both sides of the aisle that are just frustrated in general particularly with political correctness always being rubbed in their noses...he's popular with union members, younger blue collar folks that I know and has a more broad appeal than any current candidate....we'll see....I don't understand it...but we'll see.....he might be a better "community organizer" than Obama

Nebe 01-31-2016 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1092358)
you seem to keep forgetting or you are unaware that Hitler was a democratic socialist and a very independent thinker :spin:

True. And even going further back in time, democrats in the south were wealthy slave owners.
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spence 01-31-2016 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1092358)
you seem to keep forgetting or you are unaware that Hitler was a democratic socialist and a very independent thinker :spin:

http://www.politifact.com/texas/stat...mocratic-soci/
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