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numbskull 12-15-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eastendlu (Post 731601)
Speaking of turds that catch fish i made some small musso darters (used the wrong wood) darted nice then would roll completely over and come across the top of the water smaking a few times then roll back and start darting again.The bass were like piranhas on it and wanted nothing else.A friend fishing next to me could not buy a hit we both were just laughing it was every cast go figure.

You know, Lu, Roy L told me his friend got a high 30 lb fish in the canal this fall on a darter that was doing exactly the same thing. If you stop to think about it, a combined sub-surface and surface plug might have something to say for it.

The Dad Fisherman 12-15-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eskimo (Post 732088)
Oh yeah and some pencils too.

Those pencils are sweet......great shape :kewl:

eskimo 12-15-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 732097)
I think the original pine I saw weighed 2.5-2.6 oz rigged so you are very close.

Did you recall if the orig. had a small tail weight?

2.75oz was 12grams in the belly (tried to account for the hole I drilled through the weight) plus a tail weight.

numbskull 12-15-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by eskimo (Post 732154)
Did you recall if the orig. had a small tail weight?

2.75oz was 12grams in the belly (tried to account for the hole I drilled through the weight) plus a tail weight.

No tail weight. But it did carry a tail hook (which I don't use). Float it. If it sits close to level rigged the way you want with water at the tail and just below the lip slot you should be good. The Pine Srs and SSs I built came out heavy but fish fine.

eskimo 12-16-2009 11:56 AM

these will carry a flag as well.
I will float them tonight and swim some others tomorrow.

ProfessorM 12-16-2009 03:45 PM

nice job F.
Pencils are very clean looking. Great job.

Jigman 12-16-2009 08:50 PM

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A couple of recent 1 1/2 oz surfsters. Bottom one is actually black/blue swirl with a black back.

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Jigman

pbadad 12-20-2009 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tagger (Post 731512)
that is very strange ... the placement of the weight below the thru wire ..

Good Morning all. I'm early. No paper yet. Got 8" snow w/ wind blown drifts up to 2" . God I hate snow. Gotta plow later. George, I've been studying the 2- A54B pixs. In the xray it looks like the wire hole is say 5/16" and the weight is on the bottom and the wire slides over the top. It doesn't seem like a double cut hole by the shadow marks. I finally got the blank template set up on the lathe. Using my plastic Atom version, I come up with 1 1/16" diameter, 5 3/8" length. The pix looks like 1 1/8" dia. like an Atom Jr w/ 5 5/8"length. Do you know what the swim characteristics were in this plug w/ just a recessed tailweight? I looks to cast better the an A-jr.

pbadad 12-20-2009 07:32 AM

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Prof M. here is the rear view of my weight placement of my belly weight Wadd. the hole 3/16" and below a 1/4" dowel plugging up the remaining hole. Put entire blank on lathe and spin away. I do go slower when I approach the dowel area.

BigFish 12-20-2009 07:45 AM

Morning.....need coffee! Back in a few!:yawn:

islander 12-20-2009 08:07 AM

Morning larry

BigFish 12-20-2009 08:13 AM

Just drained my first cup....going for a second! Morning Islander! Clear your driveway yet?

Backbeach Jake 12-20-2009 08:20 AM

Oh yeah, coffee, be right back..

islander 12-20-2009 08:22 AM

Larry we don't have much up my way, in southern Maine. Justed started snowing around 5

BigFish 12-20-2009 08:25 AM

My neighbor is coming over with his snowblower (good neighbor) so I ain't budgin' till he comes over....and I do not believe in doing it more than once! Will wait until its done!

I have not done much plug wise this week? I did clear a small batch of plugs but no turning or anything? Christmas has me busy!:deer:

Backbeach Jake 12-20-2009 08:26 AM

Here in Clinton we have about an inch but it's comeing straight down in small flakes. I'll have a sore back by the time it's done..

pbadad 12-20-2009 08:26 AM

Mornin Larry. Went downstairs to drill out my first A-54B proto. Now, where to throw it. My pond is frozen w/ snow. I'll have to wait for xmas. suppose to warm up and rain.

BigFish 12-20-2009 08:29 AM

Go to your local municipal swimming pool?? Or the "Y"? I am sure they would not mind you swimming a chunk of wood with sharp hooks on it through the masses?!!:rotf2:

pbadad 12-20-2009 08:38 AM

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Heres the first good one off the dupe. Finally after 5 misfits!

pbadad 12-20-2009 08:40 AM

Actually thats what I do when I open the pool at my house. My neighbors say you never catch anything out of your pool!!! By the end of the week I'll try a brook near work if I can slosh to it.

BigFish 12-20-2009 08:40 AM

Curious? Do you banish them to "The Island of Misfit Plugs"?:rotf2:

pbadad 12-20-2009 08:41 AM

Larry, do have any plans to do a airbrush clinic @ Plugfest? A few members of CSA would like to see a master at work.

Backbeach Jake 12-20-2009 08:42 AM

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in the Moisture meter thread yesterday I mentionen that I'd cut some limbs to use as stock. I turned to de-bark and straighten. 3 weeks ago. Here's some pix

pbadad 12-20-2009 08:43 AM

I give my misfits to a great member of the club, Big Tim. He's learning the ropes and just got an airbrush.

BigFish 12-20-2009 08:43 AM

I could do something if folks would like....be my pleasure! I ain't no Ryan Smith but who is?:rotf2:

pbadad 12-20-2009 08:44 AM

B.J. what kind of wood?

BigFish 12-20-2009 08:45 AM

Fred....ummmmm.....is that morning wood?:rotf2:


Anyone spit their coffee all over the keyboard?:rotf2:

Backbeach Jake 12-20-2009 08:45 AM

You do some terrific paintwork, I'd like to see you technique.

Backbeach Jake 12-20-2009 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 733399)
Fred....ummmmm.....is that morning wood?:rotf2:


Anyone spit their coffee all over the keyboard?:rotf2:

Funny, but a window into your mind that I wish I hadn't looked thru

Vogt 12-20-2009 08:47 AM

Oh boy, Billy D with a dupe! This could be dangerous... ;)

BigFish 12-20-2009 08:49 AM

Small mind, small window....you have to close one eye to take a peek!

Backbeach Jake 12-20-2009 08:54 AM

I could go on but I'd get booted :rotf2:
Anyway you can see how the wood "unstraightened " itself. I thought that was interesting. I suppose if I'd quartered it it would hsvr been worse. I did quarter some wild grapevine and it warped itself something fierce

BigFish 12-20-2009 08:55 AM

What kind of wood is that Fred? Cypress?

Backbeach Jake 12-20-2009 08:59 AM

That's Eastern red cedar.

eastendlu 12-20-2009 09:03 AM

Morning guys just cleared snow so i can open the door.Have over 20 inches with big drifts.My back is hurting just looking at it as i have a long driveway.:wall:

Striperknight 12-20-2009 09:06 AM

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I 'm still looking for my car.

pbadad 12-20-2009 09:06 AM

Mornin Lou.

pbadad 12-20-2009 09:08 AM

Mornin Mr. Vogt. Yeh the dupe is a great invention. Plenty of sawdust in the shop. I have a sample of the remains for you!!

numbskull 12-20-2009 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pbadad (Post 733363)
George, I've been studying the 2- A54B pixs. In the xray it looks like the wire hole is say 5/16" and the weight is on the bottom and the wire slides over the top. It doesn't seem like a double cut hole by the shadow marks. I finally got the blank template set up on the lathe. Using my plastic Atom version, I come up with 1 1/16" diameter, 5 3/8" length. The pix looks like 1 1/8" dia. like an Atom Jr w/ 5 5/8"length. Do you know what the swim characteristics were in this plug w/ just a recessed tailweight? I looks to cast better the an A-jr.

The small wooden atom jr I have is 5 1/2" long and 1.18" (1 3/16' I think) wide.

The larger unfinished wood atom jr body I have is 6 1/4" long and 1.20 thick. No hook holes. The tail is .53" wide, the tail taper begins about 2 1/2" from the end and is straight over the last 2 ". The diameter at 2" from the tail is 1.17" (approx 1 1/8). The nose is quite blunt, curving over about 3/8". The plug is very tight grained white cedar. Old growth I'll bet. Nothing like the white cedar we can get now.

The smaller version (whose xray I posted) is .68" at the tail, begins it's taper a 2 1/2 ", most of which occurs after 2", but instead of straight is a hair concave. It's hooks are 1" and 3 1/2" back. The daimeter at the second hook is 1.09" (about 1 1/6).

The line tie is 5/16" below the lip slot. The lip is similar to the one Salty sells.

Backbeach Jake 12-20-2009 09:10 AM

G'morning Lu
 
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Grapevine, about 5years old. It was 6" thick and straight. Quartered it and it immediately corkscrewed..


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