If Hezbalah frequents those Starucks, i hope they've been wiped out.

hezbollah....

No, that's not a fair assessment.

-spence

Skip ... this is far from the truth. Did you read about the Canadians or all the civilians dead now? War is hell....its opened up to a fuller scale attack now by both sides.

And....before you ask.... I would fight with the Israels if it comes to that :D though I expect you to drive us there.

hezbollah, shesbollah, who cares whose bollah it is?

This is precisely the problem.

It's not that Israel is accused of intentionally targetting civilians, but rather that they consistantly over apply force causing the civilian deaths regardless.

The incident a few years ago where the IDF shot a live tank round into a peaceful Palestenian demonstration is a perfect example.

One thing I don't think Skippy or a lot like him understand is how much of the problem with terrorisim at the root has to do with humiliation inspired rage, rather than religious fanaticisim...

-spence

Smo Ahhhhhh Bollah :hidin:

:hihi: :eek5: :rotf3: :smokin:

-spence

“The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and die,” Clinton told the crowd at a fund-raising event for a Toronto Jewish charity Monday.

:rotf3: :rotfl: :laugha: :rollem:

You think Clinton was patronizing :hee:

-spence

If it tickles your curiosity that much John, I'm 28. I really appreciate you being the tyrant of this board. You pulled one of my threads out in which I didn't have anything to write or linked anything offensive, educative, yes. I'm starting to realize who you stand for and if anyone has a different opinion than you then you become proactive. For a free speech discussion board, it's not really "free" is it? I guess it's your way or no way. Oh I really like that button you relayed my login link to earlier. If I admit I am one then I ask who isn't?

Back to discussions...
Isreal is taking advantage of the U.S.'s war on Terror by following by example. If Bush condemns Isreal for what they do then the U.S. would be known as a hypocrit. Isreal will always feel pressure from the Muslim world because the country has only existed for 58 years to date. 58 years isn't enough time to earn respect from the Arab world after you take their land and call it yours and bullying your neighbors.

Isreals targeted bombings is as effective as the U.S.'s claim to Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. I think we found a can of Coke which could of contained Anthrax and rigged with a warhead.
Oh btw,
Beginning of Isreals attacks the price on crude went up $2.

Well, this ain't no democracy...who do ya think pays the bills? :rtfm:

-spence

Naw, not at all :doh:

If I were the Israelis, I might take Hillary up on it, if she offered, tho :D

Israel does NOT go after civilians as thier primary targets you idiots! Sure civilians are killed by accident and that sucks. But they are NOT the primary targets. Now the other side in this conflict, go after civilians as thier primary targets. You got that now? Or this still hard for you to understand?

Clinton grabbing a rifle, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha
:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:


He is starting to believe his own press releases:jester: CLINTON:jester:
:jester:BUFFOON:jester:

Now this is refreshing, finally your coming around :tooth:

Skippy, you're missing the point.

It doesn't matter, who's targeting what.

-spence

Actually - I asked how old you are because your posts (which seem to have little to with fishing) make you sound like you are a teenager and wanted to make sure (or at least have you say) that you are over 18. And it must have been one of the other tyrants that pulled you post because it wasn't me - however, I'm sure they had valid reason to do so...

And seeing that you don't post much on fishing topics but just sports and political talk I will inform you that most pulled posts are because they degenerated into a pissing contest or because what was posted was just plain wrong or just plain stupid.

In fact, I usually get flamed for not flushing enough crappy posts down the toilet... But believe what you wish (and send the tin foil hat in for a tune up)

And because we are off to such a flowery start here - who do you think I stand for?

Spence I'm sure you want to clarify that statement because it could lead one to assume that it is an attempt at legitmizing the targeting of unmarmed, innocent civilians. (They killed civilians by mistake so it's okay for us to kill them on purpose). Collateral damage which Israel is guilty of is bad enough without the purposeful intent of killing civilians which Hizbollah is guilty of. Thats probably why it's called Terrorism.

well then dont start flushing them John . I will go from like 5000 posts to 10 .

IM THE COMIC RELIEF !

Collateral damage is inevitable when a gang of cowards deliberately use civilian areas as staging grounds for their attacks.

You can't expect any country to sit there and take it forever.

I cannot believe your ignorance.... do you have any clue how far off you are???? Do you get paid to incite people?

Well I posted a link to a video which analyzed the attacks on 9/11 and how the Bush Administration handled the Aftermath of 9/11. Was documentary incorrect? It's on the basis of judgement. Is it to piss people off? I think it may enlighten them. Was it stupid? Again, judgement...

I guess I directed my comments towards the wrong person. So if you didn't pull my post then that changes everything...
I assumed, yes I hate to admit it, that you pulled it because you're an Admin and you're usually active around this forum. With that in retrospect, I felt intellectually threatened by you asking me for my age. That's why I was being an "a$$hole." My apologies...

Simular to Isreal I had an area of "target."

Okay enlighten us. On what point is Skip ignorant?

1. Isreal has targeted areas.
2. They know there are civilians near the targets.
3. They know they're are going to blow up civilains to reach their targets.
4. They blow up their targets.
5. No Hezbullah...
6. Isreal calls it an accident.

The one where he calls everyone Idiots......Earlier everyone was a Moron.

I just wish he would make up his mind......just like those Hippy Liberals...always Flip-Floppin

All of them :jester: Are you in the matrix to?

Who is this man
 

this is a test for everyone...who is he and what is his history?

Isn't that Blackbeard after he shaved?

i know
 

he's the kid who didn't listen to his mother .:poke:

If that's Moshe Dyan, then he's one of the guys who created Israel through terrorist tactics. Also showed the Egyptian Army how to die.
http://www.tylerphoto.com/people/dyan.html Looked him up for you.

Jake
 

You win a BBJ plug!

He was a bad ass :hihi:

Hmm...I guess if believing fighting back against Terrorism is the right thing to do, and if thinkiing that the destruction of Hizbollah and Hamas is a pretty cool thing, than yes I'm in the Matrix.

Damn - how the hell did you get to 5000 posts ??

SS.... I agree with your statement :cheers:

The statement is pretty clear...the point being, it's not like Palestenian non-militants are saying "well, my son did die while walking to school between checkpoints 7 and 8, but the Israelis were aiming those rockets at the terrorists down the street, so I guess it was just Allah's will"...

The Israelis are certainly guilty of dehumanizing the Palestenians in an effort to provide security, but let's be honest...also wear them down. Hence my comments about humiliation and rage.

I don't think they should shoulder the blame though, as I've stated previously, the problem is much larger than the two parties and will require a solution that's beyond both.

-spence

Sparse interesting tidbit
 

Arab-Israeli wars

A day after the declaration of independence of the State of Israel, armies of five Arab countries, Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon and Iraq, invaded Israel. This marked the beginning of the War of Independence. Arab states have jointly waged four full scale wars against Israel:

• 1948 War of Independence
• 1956 Sinai War
• 1967 Six Day War
• 1973 Yom Kippur War

Despite the numerical superiority of the Arab armies, Israel defended itself each time and won. After each war Israeli army withdrew from most of the areas it captured (see maps). This is unprecedented in World history and shows Israel's willingness to reach peace even at the risk of fighting for its very existence each time anew.

I'm glad you agree with his statement. But what he said is the same damn stuff i've been saying this entire thread! When i say it, im a nut, when he says the same thing, you agree.

I will never understand the left!! Make up your damn minds please!

But hey, welcome to the Matrix, you agree with me and SS after all.

Oh wow... So the cause of terrorism is due to Western colonization in the Middle East. It would be so much simple if the Jews went back to Europe...

Its all the other stuff Skip.... :hihi: You crazy bugger you :laugha:

There is no left or middle or right....its all one big hole :rollem: