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Newly uncovered texts show Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) begging the Trump White House for talking points to justify stealing the election in November 2020: “Please give me something to work with. I just need to know what I should be saying. Please tell me what I should be saying.”
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Now you’re claiming that there’s a factual basis for critical race theory?
Or it’s genetic?
Maybe phrenology?
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No, it's because of cultural life style differences. Middle class blacks that have similar life styles in food, etc. to middle class whites have fairly the same results as the whites.

Lower class whites that have similar life styles in diet etc. to lower class blacks have similar health outcomes to the Blacks.

If you claim that cultural lifestyles are "systems" or "systemic" than there is a systemic reason for different levels of health . . . and it's not race based.

Ok, I asked you three times if whites are generally healthier than non whites in the US, you won't answer. Because in addition to being a lunatic and a liar, you're an unbelievable coward.

Add me to the long, long list of people who will ignore you.

Think hard about John's supposition if you need help.

Even Detbuch didn’t agree with your assessment that it’s black peoples fault.
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Another Republican

“If POTUS allows this to occur... we’re driving a stake in the heart of the federal republic...”
That’s a text from Rep. Chip Roy (R-Tex.) to Trump’s chief of staff Mark Meadows in the days before Congress was going to certify Biden’s win.


Roy argued in texts that Trump’s attempts to overturn his loss on Jan. 6 was undemocratic. “We’re driving a stake in the heart of the federal republic,” he said. It’s the same argument the Jan. 6 committee is making now.

Seeing I agree with these 2 Republicans they must be rinos
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so why was it ok for maxine waters and a few other congressional democrats, to try to overturn Trumps 2016 win in some states, in their attempt to give the 2016 win to hilary? there was zero evidence of wrongdoing in those states, but they tried. Even Joe Biden told them to stop, he said the 2016 election was over. He was right.

i think what trump did was awful. i think what the congressional
democrats did was awful. i think it’s awful when any of our representatives try to overturn our votes

you only think it’s awful when republicans do it. which means your outrage is politically selective, which means it’s fake.
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How many of them are vaccinated 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Jen Psaki said that doesn’t matter, because they aren’t here for very long. she actually said that.

there’s no talking to these people, it’s not possible.
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John Eastman is the father of the fraudulent electors scheme.

Twenty years ago, before SCOTUS stepped in, the Florida GOP was planning to use it to nullify their citizens' votes if Al Gore won the election.

And Eastman was helping them plan it.
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Ahh . . . Control Your Own Body Pete is still up to his old bag of tricks. This time dredging up the Expanding the Particular Into the General ploy. It's not ALL black peoples fault. Only the Backs who choose an unhealthy life style. As Jim said, its a cultural phenomenon that many, if not most, Blacks choose. Those Blacks who don't choose that unhealthy style are not at fault.

To sum it up in a way you might better understand, those who control their own body in an unhealthy way, tend to be more unhealthy than those who control their own body in a healthy way.

Overall, on average, blacks choose to control their own bodies in unhealthy ways more than whites.

Oh, so you agree that it’s brown peoples fault we can’t have nice things and liberals made them do it
If only we’d listened to Bob Jones

“If we would just listen to the Word of God and not try to overthrow God’s established order, we would not have any trouble. God never meant for America to be a melting pot to rub out the line between the nations. That was not God’s purpose for this nation.“
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FFS, he’s still
denying that blacks are less healthy than whites?
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Can you point out where I said anything is the fault of an entire group of people of any color? (Again, you're stuck in your expansion of the particular into the general trick--immediately after I exposed your use of it!!!) I did no such thing.

Nor did I mention Bob Jones or God. That was resorting to another of your old tricks--responding to something I didn't say.

Get it together, man . . . if you want to have an intelligent, coherent, conversation. I take that back. I shouldn't have suggested it. You are not interested in such conversations on this forum. You have TDS, and, as well, are stricken with the critical theory disorder which sees "conservatism" as a sure path to tyranny and so must not be given the time or space to give its opinion. And must use any means necessary to discredit or destroy it, including lying and distorting.

Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) worked furiously to overturn the 2020 election and keep President Donald Trump in power before ultimately abandoning the effort when no evidence of widespread fraud surfaced and his outreach to states for alternate electors proved futile,
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Reps Payapal, Shelia Jackson Lee and maxine waters worked hard to hand the 2016 election to Hilary.

Waters is now busy diverting campaign money to her daughter. If she were a republican, you’d be upset by that.
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Funny Jim your such a liar this isn't new

Progressive Connections, have received more than $1.2 million since 2003 wow over 19 years you are trying hard with fox for you Fax outrage


Is she doing anything illegal ? is she using her money for personal use?
or just being black is enough to upset you ?



and how did fox news get this outrage it was reported to Federal Election Commission campaign-related services. by waters as required by law ....


yet you didnt have a issue when Trump paid his daughter Ivanka $747,622 for 'consulting,' then deducted it from his taxes,

or Jared getting 2 billion from the saudis for HIS company 6 months after the election ... odd

so you’re upset when republicans get money, but not hunter
biden or maxine waters daughter.

you’re upset that trump
tried to undo an election, but not congressional democrats

everything is ok when
democrats do it, we get it already.

here’s the false equivalence, it’s a false equivalence to expect you to hold both sides to the equivalent standard.

Make. That. Wrong.
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Pretty easy to make it wrong

Jared Kushner sold classified intel to Mohammed Bin Salman for $2 Billion.
Kushner and his allies blocked top-level U.S. government support for MBS’s cousin, former Saudi Crown Prince MBN—a long-time intelligence and counter-terrorist asset for the U.S.—when MBN attempted a legal coup d’état in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in 2017.

MBN believed he had enough support from the so-called “Council of Ministers” to back him in a regime change. If successful, both King Salman and MBS (then deputy crown prince) would have been unseated and replaced by MBN.

Kushner and his allies in the White House got word to MBS of bin Nayef’s plans, and the plot was abruptly stopped.

According to three sources with knowledge, it#^&was#^&this meddling in Saudi royal affairs that caused U.S. intelligence officials to go “apoplectic” and prevent Kushner from getting a top-level security clearance.

Jared Kushner basically handed the Saudis this information, thereby giving MBS the opportunity to kneecap his rival and get rid of him.

MBN has not been heard from since his arrest in March 2020, when he was imprisoned somewhere in Saudi Arabia.

Nowhere near equal
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Non mathematical equivalence and false equivalence doesn't necessarily require the exact same amount or degree of what is being compared, merely the same types of things are being compared.

Need a reason to never trust the GOP again? How about the entire Republican Party knowing about 1/6, and not a single one of them warning the FBI.
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The "entire" Republican Party! Including all those in state governments? Even Liz Cheney? Well, I don't trust her anyway. Like her dad when he went against his promise to get rid of Obamacare with his infamous and dramatic thumbs down.

I don't trust either party, except to renege on a lot of promises. Nor do I trust the FBI. I think one of the reasons we have elections is that it would be foolish to trust politicians and parties.

Which is a major reason why I want Progressivism and the Progressive Party to be defeated. The Progressive agenda is to regulate us by unelected administrators.

I do, however, have a cynical trust in the Progressives to faithfully carry out that mission.

Right-wingers are obsessed with FA Hayek's 1944 *theory* that welfare states inevitably expand to become totalitarian. Is there *any* case in which this actually happened since 1944? Arguably, Pinochet's Chile, but this was an authoritarian effort to stop socialism.
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China is a welfare state. Centralization of power may not inevitably become totalitarian. It already is at least authoritarian. Which is well on its way to becoming totalitarian, given human nature and the lust for power. A lust that is inherent in both despots and do-gooders.

There are variations of the so-called "welfare state." In my opinion, it is far better to have a state in which there are multiple centers of power that are more directly responsible to the will of their people, and in which the people can easily remove their elected leaders when they trespass what our constitutional system calls inalienable rights. If the people prefer the state's power over and determination of their welfare, then they have an optimistic view of the continued welfare and rights granted by authoritarians. I prefer to have the option to live in a state that protects inalienable rights than in one that grants what rights we have.

https://rumble.com/v112t8q-the-missi...-revealed.html




Nothing to see here.
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Yet, as the DOJ hunts down legitimate peaceful protesters from that day

Keep convincing yourself they were legitimate peaceful protesters

Your sources history

Representative Devin Nunes accused YouTube of being overly censorious toward his channel and began posting his videos on Rumble. Other prominent conservatives, such as Dinesh D’Souza, Dan Bongino, Sean Hannity, and Representative Jim Jordan, soon followed.[3][9][10] Former US President Donald Trump officially joined Rumble on June 26, 2021, in preparation for recording his Ohio campaign rally.[11]

A lot of Rumble's traffic is referred from Parler.[12] Using data from February 2021, researchers studying conspiracy theories and misinformation about COVID-19 noted that several content creators have gained a receptive audience on Rumble after their productions have been pulled from YouTube or Facebook

Keep your head in the bubble
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You keep convincing yourself what your liberal media feeds you and also hides from you.
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Iam not the conspiracy theorist here but keep up the good work..
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It is convenient for you to label anything that runs counter to what you believe, or want to believe, a conspiracy theory (concocting your own conspiracies?).

I saw no theory, conspiracy or otherwise, in Raider's video. On the Capitol Building official government videos, the Capitol police appeared more to be welcoming the protesters rather than blocking or stopping them.

I’ve seen plenty of those videos but like magic they disappear thanks to the liberal corrupt media covering for them.

These liberals that post daily on this forum would rather cut off their heads & bleed to death rather than admit they are wrong.
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I had WRKO on all day at work that day of the so called Insurection.
Call after call from people that were there reported that Antifa & BLM members were mixed in with the crowd and instigating violence & destruction.

I’m just glad AOC wasn’t killed like she claimed she thought was going to happen……..
Even though she was no where near the place.
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I guess you can ignore what happened
There’s plenty of footage of the crowd, point out someone who you think is Antifa or BLM
Funny how that’s not happened

https://youtu.be/0pe241gW0dQ
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so what you are saying is you had WRKO on speed dial :kewl:

Did she ever claim she was in the capital?

Ron didn’t say she claimed to be in the capitol, but she did claim she was in danger

(CNN) When Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was barricaded inside her office during the Capitol insurrection on January 6, she not only feared that mob would kill her, but that she would be raped if the rioters found her.

"I didn't think that I was just going to be killed," Ocasio-Cortez told CNN's Dana Bash in "Being...AOC," the first episode of the new CNN series "Being..." that airs Monday night at 9 p.m. ET. "I thought other things were going to happen to me as well."
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Of course and obviously Trump won the election and those damn plants caused all the trouble, you crack me up.

I looked it up. She said when she heard the banging on the door she thought the insurrectionist were coming for her. After a few min. she found out it was capital policeman.

Seems like Ronnie is dismissing what the trauma of a sexual assault victim would feel and is trying to insinuate she lied. I wonder why he even mentioned her or said "she was no where near the place" given she never claimed she was.

Ron didn’t dismiss anything and he didn’t insinuate anything. He stated exactly what she said, in her own words, that she was feeling at the time.

AOC is a Drama Queen, plain and simple
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if she said she thought the insurrectionists were going to rape her and murder her, that doesn’t imply that she’s claiming she was near the site of the insurrection? how can they kill her after doing other things to her, if she wasn’t there?

everyone wants to date her, she’s just that irresistible.

can’t you just say she misspoke? would it kill you to say that?

anything to be a victim.
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He left out 99% of the story.