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The Dad Fisherman 07-06-2016 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1103789)
not a small volume of classified information spilling into an unclassified system which from what I understand is quite common.

From what I understand, your understanding is incorrect......
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spence 07-06-2016 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DZ (Post 1103783)
So you agree that would be a double standard?

I wouldn't say it's a double standard, rather there are other factors that may be considered or have more weight under certain circumstances. There's a lot of judgement involved which is why you hope the process is apolitical.

Nebe 07-06-2016 02:35 PM

Kind of like why 1st class passengers got the lifeboats on the titanic. ;)
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fishbones 07-06-2016 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1103793)
Kind of like why 1st class passengers got the lifeboats on the titanic. ;)
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Haha, funny but unfortunately in this case very true.
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spence 07-06-2016 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 1103719)
Huh?
The FBI stated it was illegal but legally speaking the story is dead , HUH?

Yes dead...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/06/politi...ges/index.html

buckman 07-06-2016 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1103805)

Not quite
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spence 07-06-2016 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1103806)
Not quite
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I've got to believe that a guy like Comey did plenty of homework before he went in front of the cameras yesterday. Just because Rudy is misusing legal terms to mislead people doesn't make for a case.

afterhours 07-06-2016 06:38 PM

and we thought john gotti was the Teflon one....

Nebe 07-06-2016 07:47 PM

Lets face it. Hillary will defeat Trump in the election and we will have to live with 4 years at least of more divisive politics.. More polarization of a divided nation. Probably more war because Hillary is a Hawk... This makes me really pessimistic about our future.
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buckman 07-06-2016 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1103815)
Lets face it. Hillary will defeat Trump in the election and we will have to live with 4 years at least of more divisive politics.. More polarization of a divided nation. Probably more war because Hillary is a Hawk... This makes me really pessimistic about our future.
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I'm afraid you are probably right .
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buckman 07-06-2016 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1103807)
I've got to believe that a guy like Comey did plenty of homework before he went in front of the cameras yesterday. Just because Rudy is misusing legal terms to mislead people doesn't make for a case.

but it will continue to show how blatenly she lied.
Curious if you and the Mrs. are using this as a teaching moment for your children ?
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The Dad Fisherman 07-06-2016 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1103818)
but it will continue to show how blatenly she lied.
Curious if you and the Mrs. are using this as a teaching moment for your children ?
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http://youtu.be/wbkS26PX4rc
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JohnR 07-06-2016 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1103789)
It looks like it was temporarily Suspended and he got it back. His case does appear to be a bit different though, Deutsch was routinely using non-classified systems to knowingly process large volumes of classified information. It was intentional, not a small volume of classified information spilling into an unclassified system which from what I understand is quite common.

Hahahaha

See - two sets of rules

spence 07-06-2016 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1103822)
Hahahaha

See - two sets of rules

Rethink.
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JohnR 07-06-2016 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1103823)
Rethink.
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On Friday August 20, 1999, then-director of the CIA George Tenet announced he had suspended the security clearance of previous director John M. Deutch for storing classified information on a private server at his home. On January 20, 2001, as one of his last acts as president, Bill Clinton granted Deutch a presidential pardon, sparing him the prospect of a criminal conviction.
“The pardon of Mr. Deutch spares the former spy director any criminal charges for mishandling secret information on his home computer. Mr. Deutch, who resigned in 1996, has already had his security clearance stripped,” The New York Times reported at the time. “He had been considering a deal with the Justice Department in which he would plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge of keeping classified data on home computers.”

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/05/fl...te-server-use/

The Dad Fisherman 07-06-2016 08:52 PM

There you go again, John....using actual facts as a basis of your thoughts on an issue....don't you know you need to base it on Spence's feelings and understandings......or apples and oranges.....or whatever metaphor he wants to throw out there.
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JohnR 07-06-2016 10:21 PM

Interesting piece and well worth the read. Spence will call it spilled milk or something but he has a thing for felons in Armani Mao suits.

http://spectator.org/comeys-hanoi-confession/

The Dad Fisherman 07-06-2016 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1103831)
Interesting piece and well worth the read. Spence will call it spilled milk or something but he has a thing for felons in Armani Mao suits.

http://spectator.org/comeys-hanoi-confession/

Cmon, John.....obviously the writer was taking Comey's comments out of context.....

Apples and Oranges....

It's my understanding.....

You need to reread it.....
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wdmso 07-07-2016 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1103751)
Comey said she broke laws and the laws she broke are felonies, he said he did not have something that was prosecutable.

BTW - a lot of us that think Hillary is unfit to be president feel Trump is unfit to be president. So get off your high horse.


John you may express your feeling he is unfit and 1 other .. the lot of us remain silent focused on Hillary .. So asking for equal scrutiny of Donald is being on a high horse ...

scottw 07-07-2016 05:59 AM

this administration continues to set a remarkably low bar for the next administration....

JohnR 07-07-2016 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1103836)
John you may express your feeling he is unfit and 1 other .. the lot of us remain silent focused on Hillary .. So asking for equal scrutiny of Donald is being on a high horse ...

I am not sure what you mean. Both are unfit IMO to be President. The fact that the Nation, at large, will need to chose between them is horrible. I really hope we can make it through the next 4-12 years. There may be a small chance I will vote for one of these two - we are beyond the lesser of two weevils - but too much is at stake not to vote.

The problem I have is I thought (and now I KNOW) Hillary broke the law, thinks she is above the masses, and she is a a horrible person. Trump I know is a horrible person but I don't know if he has broken the law.

We are as divided as a nation as we have been for the past 150 years.

buckman 07-07-2016 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1103841)
this administration continues to set a remarkably low bar for the next administration....

Which could come in really useful for either candidate
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spence 07-07-2016 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1103791)
From what I understand, your understanding is incorrect......
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You should tell that to the State Department.

spence 07-07-2016 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1103832)
Cmon, John.....obviously the writer was taking Comey's comments out of context.....

Apples and Oranges....

It's my understanding.....

You need to reread it.....
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Perhaps the author didn't really pay attention to Comey's remarks? He clearly said you either needed intent or volume of which Clinton met neither...

Funny how the State Department has long said they should release all the emails so people can see the classified ones are much to do about nothing...

buckman 07-07-2016 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1103858)
You should tell that to the State Department.

What part of, nobody believes anything this administration says, don't you understand ?
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The Dad Fisherman 07-07-2016 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1103859)
Perhaps the author didn't really pay attention to Comey's remarks? He clearly said you either needed intent or volume of which Clinton met neither...

Funny how the State Department has long said they should release all the emails so people can see the classified ones are much to do about nothing...

You mean these comments.....

"For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail.

Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it."

Don't know how you can spin this any other way..
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Slipknot 07-07-2016 09:34 AM

They will be charging her with perjury by Friday

DZ 07-07-2016 10:09 AM

Watching the Comey grilling on the tube right now - fascinating.

DZ

Slipknot 07-07-2016 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DZ (Post 1103869)
Watching the Comey grilling on the tube right now - fascinating.

DZ

He sure is spinning and answering everything his way

it's like an inquisition

buckman 07-07-2016 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 1103871)
He sure is spinning and answering everything his way

it's like an inquisition

Trey asked him straight out questions . Sure looks like to my uneducated mind she committed perjury on several accounts . But then again I'm a little person
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