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Jim in CT 10-20-2020 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1203451)
Seems why so many intel experts are saying this reeks of a Russian operation. Hack Biden's emails, manipulate whatever you want and then plant them on a random laptop that just happens to be sent in for repair and suddenly exposed.

That you're taking any of this seriously is disturbing Jim.

Quoting "anonymous sources". Very convincing. The one intelligence guy to come forward, the director, says it's all crap. And if ANYONE had evidence showing he was wrong, they'd release it to clear Biden and make him look like a liar. There's a reason why every source is anonymous, and not one speck of evidence has been released.

"That you're taking any of this seriously is disturbing Jim"

When the Biden campaign says no one is saying the emails aren't authentic, how do you spin that in your favor, exactly?

detbuch 10-20-2020 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1203451)
Seems why so many intel experts are saying this reeks of a Russian operation. Hack Biden's emails, manipulate whatever you want and then plant them on a random laptop that just happens to be sent in for repair and suddenly exposed.

That you're taking any of this seriously is disturbing Jim.

You took "The Dossier" seriously. You take the Russia collusion nonsense seriously. You take the lie that Trump is a racist and never condemned white supremacy seriously.

And we're supposed to take your "seems" scenario seriously?

Got Stripers 10-20-2020 05:05 PM

Wow a crappie fisherman has spoken, drunk on cool aid of course but amusing posts to put a smile on our faces.
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detbuch 10-20-2020 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1203459)
Wow a crappie fisherman has spoken, drunk on cool aid of course but amusing posts to put a smile on our faces.

I'm drunk on making you smile. I'm a very nice and caring crappie fisherman person. I'm happy that you're amused. Mission accomplished. I'll be doing more to make you happy. But don't read it.

Pete F. 10-20-2020 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1203452)
Yup I will have either golf, fish, maybe break out the chain saw and do some carving, or gets some beds or mulch piles turned over with the tiller; won’t miss a beat. Pete however might need therapy he seems to be close to the edge.
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Don’t worry about me, I’ve played golf all but about 5 days not counting when it was closed for COVID, fish a little bit each week though the rivers were low and hot this summer and now my decoys are in the river in my backyard and early muzzleloader starts next week then rifle season, I have plenty to do without worrying about people foolish enough to support Covita, who it looks like has obstructed justice, engaged in witness tampering, and committed campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. So.
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Jim in CT 10-20-2020 06:41 PM

fbi has the laptop, saying russia has nothing to do with it.
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wdmso 10-20-2020 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203462)
fbi has the laptop, saying russia has nothing to do with it.
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Just like i said before you dont care about legality.. what crime was committed for the FBI to seize this lap top

The man, John Paul Mac Isaac, said he has a condition that affects his vision and “can’t be 100% sure” it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer for repair. The Wilmington shop owner said he contacted the FBI out of concern, 2 weeks before elections ya ok
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spence 10-20-2020 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203462)
fbi has the laptop, saying russia has nothing to do with it.
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Did the FBI say that?
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detbuch 10-20-2020 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1203467)
Did the FBI say that?

Yes. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...on/vi-BB1aepuJ

spence 10-20-2020 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1203469)

That’s not the FBI saying that.
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Jim in CT 10-20-2020 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1203466)
Just like i said before you dont care about legality.. what crime was committed for the FBI to seize this lap top

The man, John Paul Mac Isaac, said he has a condition that affects his vision and “can’t be 100% sure” it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer for repair. The Wilmington shop owner said he contacted the FBI out of concern, 2 weeks before elections ya ok
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lots of democrats said the russians were behind it all. did you forget that already? wouldn’t that be in
the purview of the fbi?

you’re not a partisan hack, no sir.
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Jim in CT 10-20-2020 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1203467)
Did the FBI say that?
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yes. i’m
sure you’ve already dismissed it, right?
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Jim in CT 10-20-2020 08:46 PM

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi...laptop-sources
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detbuch 10-20-2020 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1203470)
That’s not the FBI saying that.
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A Federal Official (anonymous) source said the FBI concurred. After all the anonymous sources that the NYT and WAPO and CNN and NBC, etc. etc. used to give us information on Trump and which you, et al. gleefully accepted and relayed to the forum, after all that, NOW, we must doubt and dismiss?

Pete F. 10-20-2020 10:15 PM

Donald Trump—auditioning for a job in which he must stand up to Vladimir Putin, Recep Erdogan, Abdel el-Sisi, Kim Jong Un, Mohammed bin Salman, Mohammad bin Zayed, ISIS and enemies of the US around the world—has just announced that Lesley Stahl vanquished him with tough questions
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scottw 10-21-2020 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1203475)
Donald Trump—auditioning for a job in which he must stand up to Vladimir Putin, Recep Erdogan, Abdel el-Sisi, Kim Jong Un, Mohammed bin Salman, Mohammad bin Zayed, ISIS and enemies of the US around the world—has just announced that Lesley Stahl vanquished him with tough questions
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I'n sure he's tired of stupid questions...


Trump nominated a third time for Nobel Peace Prize

Jim in CT 10-21-2020 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1203474)
A Federal Official (anonymous) source said the FBI concurred. After all the anonymous sources that the NYT and WAPO and CNN and NBC, etc. etc. used to give us information on Trump and which you, et al. gleefully accepted and relayed to the forum, after all that, NOW, we must doubt and dismiss?

yes. now the story looks bad for a democrat, so now we must dismiss.

until yesterday afternoon, the libs here took anonymous sources as god’s word. instantly,?now they are dismissed as lies. funny how that works. and very principled too.
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Jim in CT 10-21-2020 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1203475)
Donald Trump—auditioning for a job in which he must stand up to Vladimir Putin, Recep Erdogan, Abdel el-Sisi, Kim Jong Un, Mohammed bin Salman, Mohammad bin Zayed, ISIS and enemies of the US around the world—has just announced that Lesley Stahl vanquished him with tough questions
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He has to expect tough questions, after all, a reporter asked Biden what flavor milk shake he ordered. Fair is fair.

The Dad Fisherman 10-21-2020 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203481)
yes. now the story looks bad for a democrat, so now we must dismiss.

until yesterday afternoon, the libs here took anonymous sources as god’s word. instantly,?now they are dismissed as lies. funny how that works. and very principled too.
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I think the term they like is "Whistle Blower"
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Pete F. 10-21-2020 06:55 AM

HUNTER BIDEN HEADED THE WORLD FOOD PROGRAM & IT WON THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE! When Biden’s son fed the poor, trump’s kids were looting a charity. trump spent lots of time & resources (even extorted Ukraine) to discredit Hunter Biden.
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Jim in CT 10-21-2020 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1203485)
HUNTER BIDEN HEADED THE WORLD FOOD PROGRAM & IT WON THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE! When Biden’s son fed the poor, trump’s kids were looting a charity. trump spent lots of time & resources (even extorted Ukraine) to discredit Hunter Biden.
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waaah! but trump!

what are you going to do, if trump somehow wins?
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wdmso 10-21-2020 07:28 AM

Trump maintains bank account in China,

But but Hunter the boy whos not running for President :kewl:

wdmso 10-21-2020 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203471)
lots of democrats said the russians were behind it all. did you forget that already? wouldn’t that be in
the purview of the fbi?

you’re not a partisan hack, no sir.
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Still Never answered the question what crime was committed for the fbi to seize the computer and how does a blind guy who cant see the customer see whats on the hard drive , funny also when was the dropped off to be fixed? What date. Did the blind man say Oh look what I found an October surprise that I have had in my shop for 5 years ? A fetus has enough common sense to find that curious but you and other Trump enablers only see Truth.. why because its packaged as a conspericy no thinking required




Ps if I give you my computer to fix it , why is a blind guy going thru this computer reading emails and supposedly looking at photos..?

A partisan hack supports illegal actions to find dirt ..

My thoughts wouldn't change on the if if was don Jr's #^&#^&#^&#^& being stole and missed used , if its his at this point i doubt it..and again if it is it would be inadmissible in any court in America,


But please keep ignoring the real truth in America Covid is running wild we still have no better testing or a handle on its spread and the man at the Top dosen't care :kewl:

scottw 10-21-2020 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1203491)




But please keep ignoring the real truth in America Covid is running wild we still have no better testing or a handle on its spread

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what?

scottw 10-21-2020 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1203491)
Still Never answered the question what crime was committed for the fbi to seize the computer and how does a blind guy who cant see the customer see whats on the hard drive , funny also when was the dropped off to be fixed? What date. Did the blind man say Oh look what I found an October surprise that I have had in my shop for 5 years ? A fetus has enough common sense to find that curious but you and other Trump enablers only see Truth.. why because its packaged as a conspericy no thinking required




Ps if I give you my computer to fix it , why is a blind guy going thru this computer reading emails and supposedly looking at photos..?

A partisan hack supports illegal actions to find dirt ..

My thoughts wouldn't change on the if if was don Jr's #^&#^&#^&#^& being stole and missed used , if its his at this point i doubt it..and again if it is it would be inadmissible in any court in America,


But please keep ignoring the real truth in America Covid is running wild we still have no better testing or a handle on its spread and the man at the Top dosen't care :kewl:

guess I should have read all of this...



what?? :rotf2:

Pete F. 10-21-2020 08:29 AM

Where did the $17.5 million that magically appeared in Trump’s secret Chinese bank account after he became president come from?

Jim in CT 10-21-2020 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1203491)
Still Never answered the question what crime was committed for the fbi to seize the computer and how does a blind guy who cant see the customer see whats on the hard drive , funny also when was the dropped off to be fixed? What date. Did the blind man say Oh look what I found an October surprise that I have had in my shop for 5 years ? A fetus has enough common sense to find that curious but you and other Trump enablers only see Truth.. why because its packaged as a conspericy no thinking required




Ps if I give you my computer to fix it , why is a blind guy going thru this computer reading emails and supposedly looking at photos..?

A partisan hack supports illegal actions to find dirt ..

My thoughts wouldn't change on the if if was don Jr's #^&#^&#^&#^& being stole and missed used , if its his at this point i doubt it..and again if it is it would be inadmissible in any court in America,


But please keep ignoring the real truth in America Covid is running wild we still have no better testing or a handle on its spread and the man at the Top dosen't care :kewl:

"Still Never answered the question what crime was committed for the fbi to seize the computer "

I did answer the question. I think it's within the FBIs purview, to investigate claims (even made-up claims) that Russia is meddling in our politics.

What crime was committed by Carter Page to justify the FBI getting a FISA warrant to spy on him?

"Oh look what I found an October surprise that I have had in my shop for 5 years ? A fetus has enough common sense to find that curious "

How come the Biden campaign isn't denying any of it?

"Ps if I give you my computer to fix it , why is a blind guy going thru this computer reading emails "

Ask the computer guy. That doesn't mean the emails are inauthentic.

So here is your response to this potential influence-selling scandal...

Joe and Hunter may have profited from selling influence...WDMSO: No, the Russians made it up.

The FBI says there is no evidence of Russian involvement...WDMSO: that's not the FBIs job. Therefore, somehow, it's not possible they are correct when they say the Russkies weren't behind it.

The laptop appears to actually be Hunters, and the Biden campaign isn't disputing the legitimacy of the emails...WDMSO: Can't be, because why was the computer guy looking at the emails?

No matter what the news is, you thoughtlessly and reflexively deny everything that makes Biden look bad, and immediately embrace anything that exonerates him.

Jim in CT 10-21-2020 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1203495)
guess I should have read all of this...



what?? :rotf2:

seriously...

wdmso 10-21-2020 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203502)
" immediately embrace anything that exonerates him.

Really the Senate all ready found nothing ,GOP investigation in an attempt to harm Joseph Biden’s presidential campaign blew a fuse. There was no evidence of corruption or wrongdoing.


but that wasn't enough so this magically appears. ... its not defending hunter is call BS on typical scummy Republicans who can help themselves slinging mud because they don't have a message ... so the resort the same old same old and the avg American isn't buying jt.. how ever the mindless base loves it

RIROCKHOUND 10-21-2020 10:53 AM

So...
If the laptop was in possession of the FBI since December, was it (or any emails etc..) not given to the Senate Homeland Security and Finance committee?
I am asking, because that report came out a month or so back....

This plot line would seem ridiculous in a movie at this point...*

Maybe they are making Enemy of the State 2 staring Rudy and 'Blind Mac'


(*None of the above is excusing Hunter for being a crackhead POS...)

scottw 10-21-2020 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1203517)

So...
If the laptop was in possession of the FBI since December...

this is going to get much, much better....well, maybe not for the biden crime family...just be patient

ps....these are much more credible and likely that the kavanaugh allegations

Pete F. 10-21-2020 11:08 AM

Recently DNI Ratcliffe asserted that Hunter Biden’s laptop is not part of a Russian disinformation campaign. But Radcliffe misses the point. It is part of Russia’s efforts to interfere in the election.

Let me explain.

This is what we know as fact:

1) Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump.

2) Russia never stopped trying to undermine our democracy and to support Trump.

3) Russia is trying to interfere in the 2020 election to support Trump. Ratcliffe’s own agency said so.

4) Russia, at war with Ukraine, has been promoting a disinformation campaign to smear Joe and Hunter Biden with bogus allegations related to Ukraine.

5) Giuliani and Trump latched onto this sham allegation and tried to extort Ukraine to announce an investig into the Bidens.

6) Trump was impeached over this abuse of power, and the impeachment definitively determined that Biden acted appropriately at all times.

7) Yet Giuliani continued to promote this disinformation campaign, and coordinated his efforts with a known Russian agent.

8) Trump was informed of Russia’s efforts to use Giuliani to promote disinformation to interfere in the election and he did nothing, welcoming the assistance.

9) Giuliani is the source of the Hunter Biden laptop.

10) Giuliani and Trump allies point to the contents of the laptop to support the bogus allegations against the Bidens promoted by Russia and its agent working with Giuliani.

11) The laptop does not support those allegations, which are still — and will always be — false.

12) The laptop is therefore part and parcel of Russia’s disinformation campaign designed to illegally interfere in the 2020 election in support of Trump.

RIROCKHOUND 10-21-2020 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1203518)
this is going to get much, much better....well, maybe not for the biden crime family...just be patient

ps....these are much more credible and likely that the kavanaugh allegations

Is it?
So did the FBI or Rudy not give it to the Senate investigation? Seems like it would have been key evidence for the FBI to provide the Senate Homeland Security and Finance committee... Maybe, you know deep state... There was a chance to charge Hunter right then and there and maybe even embarrass Joe (or worse) 2-months before the election.

It makes me sad to see what Rudy has become after his great work following 9/11.

Jim in CT 10-21-2020 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1203516)
Really the Senate all ready found nothing ,GOP investigation in an attempt to harm Joseph Biden’s presidential campaign blew a fuse. There was no evidence of corruption or wrongdoing.


but that wasn't enough so this magically appears. ... its not defending hunter is call BS on typical scummy Republicans who can help themselves slinging mud because they don't have a message ... so the resort the same old same old and the avg American isn't buying jt.. how ever the mindless base loves it

the senate investigated the emails on the laptop? when?
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wdmso 10-21-2020 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203526)
the senate investigated the emails on the laptop? when?
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See rockhounds post and Jim if they found nothing aka illegal money transfers or actual meeting with Joe Biden or were they able to hide that .. but you think theses emails equal smoking Gun ? Keep at it:faga:

Meanwhile

Comrade Trump’: Jokes rife regarding Donald Trump’s tax payments to China on Chinese social media

Jim in CT 10-21-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1203532)
See rockhounds post and Jim if they found nothing aka illegal money transfers or actual meeting with Joe Biden or were they able to hide that .. but you think theses emails equal smoking Gun ? Keep at it:faga:

Meanwhile

Comrade Trump’: Jokes rife regarding Donald Trump’s tax payments to China on Chinese social media

I saw his post. I didn't know the Senate investigated the laptop.

Wayne, your defense/excuse changes daily.

It's all fake. It's not his laptop. It was the Russians. Trump also is bad. The Senate already looked into the laptop. No smoking gun.

The fact that his son is a coked up weirdo with no experience in Ukraine, who got rich there while his daddy was VP and the point man in our policy in Ukraine, is a coincidence. Of all places Hunter could have gotten a high paying gig, it had to be (1) in the Ukraine, and (2) while his dad was the point man for our policy there.

Of all the countries in the world, its a coincidence that Hunter got rich in the one country where VP Biden was point man?

Heck of a coincidence.

Add "harmless coincidence" to your ever growing list of defenses.

PaulS 10-21-2020 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203533)

The fact that his son is a coked up weirdo

I thought kids were off limits isn't that what you used to say constantly with the Palin kids?
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wdmso 10-21-2020 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203533)
I saw his post. I didn't know the Senate investigated the laptop.

Wayne, your defense/excuse changes daily.

It's all fake. It's not his laptop. It was the Russians. Trump also is bad. The Senate already looked into the laptop. No smoking gun.

The fact that his son is a coked up weirdo with no experience in Ukraine, who got rich there while his daddy was VP and the point man in our policy in Ukraine, is a coincidence. Of all places Hunter could have gotten a high paying gig, it had to be (1) in the Ukraine, and (2) while his dad was the point man for our policy there.

Of all the countries in the world, its a coincidence that Hunter got rich in the one country where VP Biden was point man?

Heck of a coincidence.

Add "harmless coincidence" to your ever growing list of defenses.

If he was a republican you'd praise his initiative for getting paid.

Clearly he was making this money for years. But its a heck of a coincidence you now care 12 days before the election

Ps did hunter comment fraud. If people hired hunter to gain influence is that a crime ? If people asked hunter for meetings or favors is that a crime? Because no matter what he got paid and the intentions of who hired might have been nefarious

If Hunter Biden never provided the access and policy wasn't changed than their is no crime , its that easy


Russian Lawyer Says Trump Jr. Offered Her a Deal: Hillary Dirt for a Change to U.S. Law

See the difference :kewl: hunter never offered a thing JR did

Got Stripers 10-21-2020 05:52 PM

Is Hunter running for President what did I miss?

wdmso 10-21-2020 07:42 PM

Now he wants to Fire the FBI Director and not pleased with Barr
seem he's looking for someone who will arrest and plant evidence and lie as he does. Shocking


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