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justplugit 08-31-2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1080465)
There's no evidence yet she did anything illegal. Why would you throw her in the clink?

- Yet- ,that is the key word.


If there are bigger issues our government needs to address then that's a systems problem.


Your right, but the others are not as much fun to follow as Hillary drops in the
the trust and integrity polls. :)

scottw 09-02-2015 06:59 AM

that's classic isn't it? it really a "systems problem" not the creeps manipulating and undermining the system.....it becomes a "bigger issue" when no one is held accountable....dumb


We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society(or the system) is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his/her actions.(particularly if that individual is vying for the public trust)

Ronald Reagan

Jim in CT 09-02-2015 09:20 AM

Scott, she just comes across the the least authentic, least sincere person on the planet...that's assuming she is actually a person and not a robot. At every press conference, I expect her to seize up and utter "oil can" out of the side of her mouth like the Tin Man from Wizard Of Oz.

I want someone to debate her who will ask her why she believed she was shot at in Bosnia or wherever, and whe she thought it unlikely the her husband was cheating on her, and more likely that he was being framed by the Republicans. What is her response to that? War on women?

justplugit 09-02-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1080593)

I want someone to debate her who will ask her why she believed she was shot at in Bosnia

As it has been stated here many times before, if you can't be
trusted in little things, you can't be trusted in big things as has been
proven time and time again by Hillary.

Jim in CT 09-02-2015 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1080598)
As it has been stated here many times before, if you can't be
trusted in little things, you can't be trusted in big things as has been
proven time and time again by Hillary.

Agreed. But we need someone who will club her with that.

I saw Ben Carson give, what I thought was, a great answer on his abortion views. He said, and I am paraphrasing, "I worked most of my career as a pediatric neurosurgeon, often working on babies, including babies in the womb. I can't tell you how many times my team and I fought with everything we had, as hard as we could, all night long, desperately trying to save these precious babies. So no one who knows me, would be surprised to hear me say that no, I don't think we should be killing babies for convenience."

justplugit 09-02-2015 01:00 PM

Yes, Ben Carson is an honorable man and tells it like it is.
IMO, once a heart beat is started you are killing an innocent child with abortion.
A women has a choice in the matter but who represents the child"s rights?

Rape , incest, threat to a mothers life are a different matter, but the first two cases can be handled with the day after pill while in the last case ,it may take
longer to diagnose. Understandable.

I think Ben Carson will become a lot stronger candidate as the debates
continue.

Nebe 09-02-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1080606)
Yes, Ben Carson is an honorable man and tells it like it is.
IMO, once a heart beat is started you are killing an innocent child with abortion.
A women has a choice in the matter but who represents the child"s rights?

Rape , incest, threat to a mothers life are a different matter, but the first two cases can be handled with the day after pill while in the last case ,it may take
longer to diagnose. Understandable.

I think Ben Carson will become a lot stronger candidate as the debates
continue.

Pretty legit right there. That pill should be available as an over the counter medication. No questions asked.
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Jim in CT 09-02-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1080606)
I think Ben Carson will become a lot stronger candidate as the debates
continue.

I think you are correct. He just reeks of decency, thoughtfulness, and competence (in my opinion...plus, naturally, I agree with him on most issues). His favorability ratings are insane, it's just that a lot of people don't know who he is, but those that know of him, really like him. I was assuming he'd be out before he had a chance to get in front of many people, but it appears I was wrong on that score. I don't know how his fundraising is going.

justplugit 09-03-2015 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1080612)
I don't know how his fundraising is going.

Therein lies the problem. People outside the politicians don't have
the big combines giving them the money they need. I think there
should be a reasonable $ limit set for all candidates on how much
they can spend on election.


The polls are showing that the American people are tired of the same old
politicians and the same old BS and want some fresh blood in office that
have real job business experience and common sense.
Carley Farina is an example along with Trump and Ben Carson who have worked in the real world.

Jim in CT 09-03-2015 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1080685)
The polls are showing that the American people are tired of the same old
politicians and the same old BS and want some fresh blood in office that
have real job business experience and common sense.
Carley Farina is an example along with Trump and Ben Carson who have worked in the real world.

That's an understatement, that people are fed up, on both sides I think.

Nebe 09-03-2015 11:43 AM

Yup
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Fly Rod 09-04-2015 08:24 AM

Spence....she did a lot wrong....when they take office they read the law.....she sent secured(secret etc:) emails and she has stated that she never had.....LIAR... LIAR... PANT SUIT ON FIRE.....lol...:)

spence 09-04-2015 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Fly Rod (Post 1080819)
Spence....she did a lot wrong....when they take office they read the law.....she sent secured(secret etc:) emails and she has stated that she never had.....LIAR... LIAR... PANT SUIT ON FIRE.....lol...:)

6 emails of hers were classified AFTER she left office. That's no lie.

Fly Rod 09-04-2015 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1080821)
6 emails of hers were classified AFTER she left office. That's no lie.

U must B in a dream world saying hillary only had 6 emails that were of classified....the latest is over 200 that she personally sent

spence 09-04-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fly Rod (Post 1080833)
U must B in a dream world saying hillary only had 6 emails that were of classified....the latest is over 200 that she personally sent

No, quite lucid...

200 or so emails on her server contained information that was later classified.

6 emails that Clinton herself authored were later classified.

justplugit 09-04-2015 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1080834)

200 or so emails on her server contained information that was later classified.

6 emails that Clinton herself authored were later classified.

Spence, what's your source for those facts?

spence 09-04-2015 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1080836)
Spence, what's your source for those facts?

Any news report but FOX or Drudge :hihi:

Jim in CT 09-04-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1080839)
Any news report but FOX or Drudge :hihi:

Actually, I heard on Fox the same facts.

Spence, if she authors an email as Secstate, shouldn't she know whether or not it has content that is suitable for non-secure servers?

I don't think there is any evidence that she sent or received emails that were classified at the time she sent/received them. That's important to keep in mind.

It's also fair to question her judgment for failing to recognize the sensitivity of the emails she composed herself.

There's also no excuse to her response when asked if she had the server wiped - "what, you nmean with a cloth". Yeah, because natiional security lapses are so hysterical.

Spence, answer me this. She claimed, as First Lady, that Bill wasn't cheating on her, but rather he was being framed by Republicans (the vast right-wing conspiracy). In my opinion, that's an absurdly stupid statement to make. If she really believes that the GOP framed her husband, she's too paranoid/stupid to be POTUS. And if she didn't really believe what she was saying, then she's too dishonest to be POTUS. There is no third option. What do you think?

justplugit 09-04-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1080839)
Any news report but FOX or Drudge :hihi:

Ya gotta look at them all Spence for reference or, you could miss something. :)

Like for instance, if you were looking for news on Cheryl Mills, long time Hillary aide, who helped her set up her server, you wouldn't know she is going to Plead The 5TH on the Hillary's Congressional hearings. Could find it on NBC and ABC though.

Guess CBS didn't think it wasn't important news.
The plot thickens. :hihi:

spence 09-04-2015 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1080846)
Spence, if she authors an email as Secstate, shouldn't she know whether or not it has content that is suitable for non-secure servers?

That depends, certainly there is some information she would know should only be sent on a classified network. Other information may seem banal at the time, but could be classified later because of the situation or another government agency has a different opinion about it's nature.

That's why I'd like to see how much email on state.gov is later classified to gain a baseline understanding. I'd wager it's quite a lot.

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There's also no excuse to her response when asked if she had the server wiped - "what, you nmean with a cloth". Yeah, because natiional security lapses are so hysterical.
No doubt she hasn't handled the situation well.

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Spence, answer me this. She claimed, as First Lady, that Bill wasn't cheating on her, but rather he was being framed by Republicans (the vast right-wing conspiracy). In my opinion, that's an absurdly stupid statement to make. If she really believes that the GOP framed her husband, she's too paranoid/stupid to be POTUS. And if she didn't really believe what she was saying, then she's too dishonest to be POTUS. There is no third option. What do you think?
Her remark wasn't about just infidelity, but the relentless attacks Bill was under once his announced his candidacy and throughout his first term. Remember, there were people bribing others to manufacture scandal.

Jackbass 09-04-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1080849)

Like for instance, if you were looking for news on Cheryl Mills, long time Hillary aide, who helped her set up her server, you wouldn't know she is going to Plead The 5TH on the Hillary's Congressional hearings. Could find it on NBC and ABC though.

Guess CBS didn't think it wasn't important news.
The plot thickens. :hihi:

She is probably just trying to avoid a potential life threatening accident or assisted suicide(merely speculation)

Hillary will not be indicted she will not serve time and she will be the nominee for POTUS. She is over 70 million raised currently. Higher than any other candidate aside from Jeb who is over 110 million. Bought and sold
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spence 09-04-2015 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1080849)
Like for instance, if you were looking for news on Cheryl Mills, long time Hillary aide, who helped her set up her server, you wouldn't know she is going to Plead The 5TH on the Hillary's Congressional hearings. Could find it on NBC and ABC though.

Pleading the 5th doesn't mean you have anything to hide. Many of those she would have to go before have already made criminal accusations, it's a witch hunt I certainly wouldn't want to be a part of.

PaulS 09-04-2015 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1080849)
Ya gotta look at them all Spence for reference or, you could miss something. :)

Like for instance, if you were looking for news on Cheryl Mills, long time Hillary aide, who helped her set up her server, you wouldn't know she is going to Plead The 5TH on the Hillary's Congressional hearings. Could find it on NBC and ABC though.

Guess CBS didn't think it wasn't important news.
The plot thickens. :hihi:

a quick search on CBS news of "Cheryl Mills" turned this up as the 1st article.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-s...h-to-congress/

scottw 09-04-2015 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1080869)
Pleading the 5th doesn't mean you have anything to hide.

:rotf2:

justplugit 09-04-2015 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1080879)
a quick search on CBS news of "Cheryl Mills" turned this up as the 1st article.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-s...h-to-congress/


Ya, a day late and a dollar short.

They had no choice but to cover it today. :hihi:

justplugit 09-04-2015 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1080869)
Pleading the 5th doesn't mean you have anything to hide. Many of those she would have to go before have already made criminal accusations, it's a witch hunt I certainly wouldn't want to be a part of.

Simple, if you don't lie and tell the truth you don't need a good
memory and nothing to fear.

spence 09-04-2015 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1080911)
Simple, if you don't lie and tell the truth you don't need a good
memory and nothing to fear.

If it was an objective investigation one might hope that would be true. I don't see how anyone could see any of this as objective.

justplugit 09-04-2015 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1080917)
If it was an objective investigation one might hope that would be true. I don't see how anyone could see any of this as objective.

If it proved Hillary was innocent you would be the first one to say
it was objective. :hihi: :buds:

Nebe 09-05-2015 08:04 AM

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justplugit 09-05-2015 10:25 AM

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LOL Nebe, the perfect squelch. :btu:


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