I hope the population in this country can see that trumps tariffs are actually designed to fund “trickle up” economics. The working class will fund the rich’s tax cuts with their extra stealth tax.
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Cult members wont be moved, but hopefully centrist republicans and independents will say enough is enough.

Seems the new plan is to grant what they are calling targeted tariff exemptions. Which is code for taking care of donors. Or industries.
To limit sticker shock .for us consumers…. Or basically Bait and switch.

Sadly many Americans are falling for it. That it’s some Art of the deal by their genius president.

On a sidenote, I thought oil plummeted to under $60 a barrel but I haven’t seen a reduction at the pump at home. It’s like 268 to 280 and on my drive to Hilton head North Carolina South Carolina many places is three dollars a gallon.. which surprise me ! Its always been $.20 cheaper down south

After 4 years of not one post it took less than a month to find this thread and see that it still hasn't changed even after JohnR said no more.

Done with this place.

You are aware this is the grumpy old pharts board, seems like a logical thread to me and I for one am capable of discussing what are some serious national security and economic issues and pop into post in the fishing threads if and when I hit the salt again.

Not everything can be fake news 100% of the time. But that’s the suggestion

Believe in truth

To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. if nothing is true, then no one can criticize power because there is no basis upon which to do so if nothing is true, then all is spectacle the biggest wall pays for the most blinding lights.

Not sure why some people are afraid to read actual facts and current events

I haven’t seen anyone naming names . Just people pointing out the obvious .. not hate no vitriol just a conversation..

Look at the massive power outage in Spain, those are real possibilities for the US, as cyber security found China in all our infrastructure in the last term and managed to get them out. So Trump guts that department, why……oh yeah because they proved the 2020 election was 100% fair. Trump lives to hurt anyone who he felt hurt him.

DOD head is a joke, if you feel secure, glad your comfortable. He spends 50% of his efforts trying to find leakers or people talking about how inept he is, not to concerned about our security.

MORAN: Even some people who voted for you are saying, 'I didn't sign up for this.' So how do you answer those concerns?

TRUMP: Well, they did sign up for it actually

He has a point. They can claim willful ignorance all they like. They have no excuse.
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It’s worse than that, and straight out of the authoritarian playbook.

All over government they’re not just eliminating oversight but trying to erase history so they can replace it with a Trump friendly set of facts, unable to be disproven because their data is all that’s available. I’m somewhat surprised JR hasn’t removed the political forum from the search engine to be honest.

Before the election I said the US would be looking a lot like Russia in 5-10 years. Now I’d say we’re on the fast track to Hungary in 2. No press freedom, lack of liberties, wrecked universities and a disastrous economy.

But as Trump said yesterday, you voted for it.

SNL or reality?

WELKER: When does it become the Trump economy?

TRUMP: It partially is right now. I think the good parts are the Trump economy and the bad parts are the Biden economy
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Kari Lake says OAN's far-right coverage will fuel Voice of America.:faga:

What a great way to repay OAN for its continued propaganda.

Seriously, his economic strategy is such a cl#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g fluster I’m not sure we can avert a bad recessed even if he changed course today, and the GOP seems content to just let him drive the ship right into the rocks.

What happens next could be a lot, lot worse.

Short term pain might turn into a long term nightmare

Did you guys see that developing african countries who are trying to negotiate having tariffs dropped were told that chances of them being dropped will increase if they signed contracts with Starlink. They aren't even trying to hide the corruption.
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I wonder if a decade from now looking back wishing we weren’t living in the new Russia, those that voted this criminal into power truly regret their past decisions. Project 25 is rolling over America and I’m not sure the American public have a chance to stop it.

What a surprise that the “full and comprehensive” free trade agreement Trump is announcing with much fanfare this morning is not exactly full and comprehensive.

UK provided a polite reality check to Trump's posts about a "full and comprehensive" deal
UK-US deal will set out general terms of agreement: UK official
Will set framework for further negotiations: UK official
Focused on specific sectors, not traditional FTA:UK official

That’s a good sign for 90 deals in 90 days. The first trade deal Trump is celebrating is actually the framework of a deal.

No one knows concepts of a plan or frameworks of a deal like Trump.
It’s like Deja Vu all over again
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It’s a nothing burger. We have a trade surplus with the UK. Only positive is it may show they will negotiate.

China is the big rock and they have huge leverage. Thousands of pounds of rare earth materials that go into F-35s, subs and bombs are mostly refined in China. 70% of products for baby care are made in China. If the US stops buying imports they’ll just tell their factory workers to do with less.

It takes a really stupid person to take a growing economy, put it in reverse and into negative GDP, but we rational clear thinking people ( blue, red or purple) have known for years Trump is that special kind of stupid.

Wow perfect example, just caught a clip of Trump responding to a reporter responding to his two Barbie dolls for Xmas and he said he may consider 145% tariff on the country of Matel so they cant sell any of their dolls in the US. OMG you cant even make that sh*t up.

Trump says he is naming Fox News host and former judge Jeanine Pirro to be top federal prosecutor in Washington, D.C.

:lurk:

Anyone surprised the golden one is ready to continue the biggest grift of all time, by taking a luxury jet from Qatar. That on top of all the middle east investment of millions in his meme coin, can you believe the right was so upset about Hunter but now crickets. What a con job he has pulled on those the put him back into power, they are the middle class and below, how do they feel about no promises kept (groceries) all while the Trump family is making a killing.

Its a cult
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Qatar is the main source of money for Hamas and hates Israel, by accepting their lavish gift and making it a symbol of American strength he’s owning the Libs and the Muslims at the SAME TIME.

Hunter’s epic corruption selling artwork or Clinton’s use of a private email server to send NY Times articles on drones are the real lasting stain on our once great nation. So Trump’s kids aren’t allowed to even have a job? What’s next they can’t even take bribes? Jesus, it’s like you’re all anti-family and probably would even hold a door for a trans person.

We now OWN China!

Propose a Trump tower in your country, your sanctions go away, no matter if your linked to terroists who killed US citizens.

Yep, projection of US power. This will help in the tariff negotiation for sure :rollem:

Trump shoulder to shoulder with two of the most evil mother f*ckers in his publicity photo op, he fits in perfectly with those leaders. Ice hit our neighbors long time landscaping company this week, most of the workers will be deported if not already. I wonder how many small landscaping, roofing and painting companies will be folding as they loose their workers.

Kid Rock’s restaurant in Nashville had to close down when ice was doing sweeps so his illegal immigrant employees could shelter and not get rounded up. i guess ol kid rock thinks illegals need to go, except for the ones he can make money off of.
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Not a lot of young white boys ready to take those jobs, the work is to hard, the hours aren’t right and the money won’t pay the car payment.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens to groceries when the deportation plan is fully implemented.
Groceries will really become an old fashioned word, unless you can find agricultural workers to replace them.
Maybe this administration will institute a Down to the Countryside program as part of their central economic planning.
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No worries, Bessent is on MTP right now claiming gas prices have “cratered” under Trump. Average cost per gallon is higher than under Biden.

Didn’t think I could hear anything more stupid than the crap coming out of every single cabinet member, well of course I was wrong. So Kristi Noem is floating an idea for a reality TV show where immigrants battle each other and the winner gets a chance to become a citizen. I swear I think Trump may be smarter than I give him credit, if he nominated all these unqualified idiots as cabinet members and set Musk loose, so he and his family can rake in millions while we are distracted by the shinny objects.

Not Millions, it’s Billions that Two Dolls has made

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+...obile&ie=UTF-8
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Sorry, edited your post.

Habeas corpus LOL
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The republican party is just as dumb to think this idiot and his circus of idiots is their answer, like Kristi they don’t know the definition of winning.

She knew exactly what she was lying about.

It started with immigrants, illegal, citizens, gang members, gay hair dressers…they don’t really care about the Constitution if it leads to deportations and cruelty.

Not they’re using the DOJ to go after judges and politicians. The absurd attacks on the media continue.

The POTUS literally put HIS FACE on a crypto coin and is using the office to personally rake in billions.

The fundamentals of our innovation engine are crumbling.

The poor and middle class are being asked to pay for tax cuts for billionaires.

At least — the real existential threat being the national debt — is finally being tackled with the conservative brain trust running the entire government.

Oh for #^&#^&#^&#^&s sake :doh:

EO to reduce drug prices up to 80%

When suggested by Dems. It’s was called socialism/ communism

Now it’s called common sense. Just like EV’s. they hated them . until the dear leader told them he loved them. Now they love them.. Afrikaans good because at there is genocide. ? Anywhere, anyone shade darker or Muslim is as a criminal & illegal and Must go. Anyone else see the pattern l:cheers2:

Ten years ago the GOP would be inconsolable at the Soviet style price fixing.

But it’s just another deke, no shareholder owned business is going to just kill off its profit engine.

Comrades. Do not speak poorly of our new fascist oligarchs.
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Trump wishes everyone a happy suckers and loosers weekend.

Donald Trump West Point Commencement Speech transcript

https://www.rev.com/transcripts/dona...ech-transcript

Odd the White House released the written copy of the speech. Nothing was added when he went off script.

Talking about.. some guy. He ended up getting a divorce. Found a new wife. Could you say a trophy wife? I guess we can say a trophy wife. It didn't work out too well," the president said in his speech , or transgender athletes during West Point speech. Every one should watch it then draw your own conclusion kewl: