Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1226033)

Maybe Disney will secede from Floriduh

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1226028)

You can always follow the money

Ron DeSantis has banned all K-5 math textbook publishers from the state of Florida except one: the company owned by fellow GOP governor Glenn Youngkin's private equity firm.
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1226033)

The alleged conservatives here have claimed for years that the private sector does things better than government. Reedy Creek is a great example of this. Republicans have now abandoned that philosophy over their hurt feelings.
Locals joke when they cross over into Disney property how the roads are flawlessly smooth asphalt. “Why can’t Mickey take over I-4?”

Maybe Disney will secede from Floriduh, though since DeathSantis only won by 32,000 votes in 2018, there’s 80,000 Disney employees in Florida and 70,000 Floridians died of COVID…….I would guess they’ll let him be like Jafar and watch him turn himself into a Genie in a bottle

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1226102)

Yea, fascism works well

Gov. Greg Abbott's "enhanced" truck inspections turned up zero drugs or migrants, but cost Texas consumers and businesses an estimated $4.2 billion.
Delays resulted in $240 million in spoiled produce alone.
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1226102)

Yea, fascism works well

Gov. Greg Abbott's "enhanced" truck inspections turned up zero drugs or migrants, but cost Texas consumers and businesses an estimated $4.2 billion.
Delays resulted in $240 million in spoiled produce alone.
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1226109)

The conservatism of DeSantis and Abbott is perfectly recognizable. It’s not the American conservatism of Reagan to Romney (which may well prove an anomaly in the history of conservatism), it’s the European conservatism of the 1920s and early 1930s.

The quality or character of "conservatism" in different decades of American history changed with the social and political challenge that it faced in each era. The political persuasions of DeSantis and Abbot far more resemble Reagan and Romney's "conservatism" than that of Biden and the Dems.

My favorite 20th century "conservative" President was Coolidge. Reagan was close at number 2. They faced different qualities of Progressive leftism. Coolidge fought a Wilsonian Progressivism still somewhat linked to the Constitution and to traditional social and religious values. Reagan's nemesis was the more entrenched Progressivism of the "living, breathing" Constitution created by the FDR administration with its deep infiltration by the Communist Party, and a Democrat Party that had progressed much farther to the left of Wilsons and still had various roots in its FDR era ties to communism.

The "conservatives" of today are up against a thoroughly anti-constitutional, unlimited power Progressive from of government in the Democrat Party which still has ties with the Communist Party, and has created a regulatory system that favors the rise and dominance of both government and corporate centralization--and the symbiosis of both behemoths into a fascistic government, corporate, media, military complex that has a stranglehold on the governance of this country.

The struggle of "conservatism" today is preserving what is left of constitutional limitations on central power, and recovering, bit by bit, the constitutional power of state and local governments and the regrowth of individual unalienable rights that have withered through the onslaught of federally, unconstitutional, rights of centralized (collective) groups.

The comparison is more correctly between eras of "conservatism" in this country than between current American "conservatism" to various eras of European "conservatism" which is far more centralized on a national level than American "conservatism." DeSantis and Abbot "conservatism," whatever that may be, can only be expressed at state levels and may not reflect or even have a connection to national "conservatism" in terms of federal policy. The rise of a Hitler or Mussolini would be very difficult here. Nor even in Texas or Florida. I see no real connection between Abbot and DeSantis to Hitler.

Actually, the only way a totalitarian government can be implanted here is by scrapping the Constitution, or by "interpreting" it out of original existence into some authoritarian governing document, or just disregarding it. Any of those is precisely a goal of the Progressive agenda.


The $4.2 billion that Greg Abbott burned at the border could have fixed the Texas power grid.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1226129)

Here is something fascinating to me: Macron had nearly exact same job approval rating as President Biden does today and he just won 58% of the vote.
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1226137)

Does it fascinate you that if Biden and the Dems get reelected we will become more like France?

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1226144)

Better France than Hungary
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1226145)

Interesting. Would you prefer the US to be like France? Would you prefer us being like France more than being like Sweden or Denmark or Switzerland? Would you prefer any of those governments to what the US is now?

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1226166)

Silly fascist, I’d prefer a functioning government that didn’t decide what to support only on the basis of what your leaders told you to support.
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1226170)

It's telling that you would say someone who supports the U.S. Constitution and limited government with separation of powers to prevent the centralization of American governance is a fascist. Even more so since you're the one that supports the Progressive notion that authoritarianism is necessary in order to pass Progressive legislation.

The authoritarian calls the individualist a fascist. That's the kind of propaganda a fascist would spread.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1226171)

it’s not worth it. just ignore him.

you fascist!!
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1226172)

Every right wing accusation is a confession.

Whether it's self loathing or insecurity pushing them, if they are accusing people of something they are doing it.
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1226178)

The modern Republican playbook. First you lie. Next you lie about lying. And then you lie about lying about lying, ad infinitum.
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1226190)

Do we care that a former President of the United States has been held in contempt of court and fined for failing to comply with a judicial subpoena concerning potential evidence of financial fraud or is that just #267 on the list of priorities these days
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