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Pete F. 09-30-2019 07:25 PM

Russia says Trump can't release phone calls without Kremlin permission nbcnews.com/politics/donal… via @nbcnews
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 07:31 PM

Conservatives pretended to be furious that Bill Clinton said hi to Loretta Lynch on a tarmac. Now imagine she'd traversed the globe trying to substantiate anti-Romney smears. That these are different abuses of the office doesn't make this proper or "reasonable."
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1175367)
Funny you ask that in a post where you ignore questions.

What was the question(s) that threw the nomination to Hilary? and did Trump receive any questions?

Completion factors are proprietary.

paul, you dodged like a wuss, not me, read the posts. i
answered a bunch of your questions, then paused in the hope
you might show me the same courtesy.

i have no idea what the question was. Donna Brazile admits doing it, it’s not in dispute. i never said it cost bernie the nomination. but it’s very un democratic, as was the use of super delegates.
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1175378)
Of course it is. But that's what some of the people on the right have become here. It's not right to give her the question but the question they gave her was something any candidate would prepare for. Mountain out of a molehill.
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paul, why does the left still
insist that the release of those emails hurt hilary in the election, if those emails revealed nothing of substance?

can’t have it both ways.

if the emails revealed nothing, then how did they hurt her?
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PaulS 09-30-2019 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175387)
paul, you dodged like a wuss, not me, read the posts. i
answered a bunch of your questions, then paused in the hope
you might show me the same courtesy.

i have no idea what the question was. Donna Brazile admits doing it, it’s not in dispute. i never said it cost bernie the nomination. but it’s very un democratic, as was the use of super delegates.
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I never once mentioned the emails in this thread so you're delusional thinking I have to answer any question you want to discuss . Trump was fed questions by Rodger Ailes but given the hypocrisy you demonstrate so often here it's not a big deal. And now I'll ask again since you dumped the question what did Hillary do that was unethical?
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PaulS 09-30-2019 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175388)
paul, why does the left still
insist that the release of those emails hurt hilary in the election, if those emails revealed nothing of substance?

can’t have it both ways.

if the emails revealed nothing, then how did they hurt her?
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Again I never made one statement about the emails here. It's hilarious that you have no problem with Trump being helped by the Russians for some reason. Is it because of 3.7 and 28000 That anything Trump does is fine with you.
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1175389)
I never once mentioned the emails in this thread so you're delusional thinking I have to answer any question you want to discuss . Trump was fed questions by Rodger Ailes but given the hypocrisy you demonstrate so often here it's not a big deal.
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follow if you can...

Pete said russian hacking if emails
was bad

i said that if the emails harmed hilary, that means the emails
revealed things the voters didn’t like, in which case perhaps the content of the emails ( what she did) is as important as who released the emails

you then asked
about what the emails claimed she did. and you’re saying that they don’t contain anything important. if that’s true, then they didn’t hurt hilary.

i don’t think you have to answer anything. but if i
answer your questions and you won’t answer mine ( because the answer doesn’t serve your agenda), i’m gonna point that out. if you don’t like that, i suggest maybe you answer the question.

i don’t care about the emails. it’s just funny when liberals
claim the emails revealed
nothing substantial about hilary, and simultaneously claim they helped cause her defeat.
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Sea Dangles 09-30-2019 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1175376)
Do you realize how hypocritical your statement is? Can you please provide a link where Bernie says Hillary being given one question ruined his chance to be the Democratic candidate. And your first statement was that Hillary accepted help not that Bernie said it.
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Yes I do.

I never said anything about one question ruining his chances,you did. I said Sanders believes the nomination was rigged. That is why he did not endorse her. She accepted help and that is an uneven playing field.

I will ask again because you seem chatty. Do you believe that was fair play?
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1175392)
Yes I do.

I never said anything about one question ruining his chances,you did. I said Sanders believes the nomination was rigged. That is why he did not endorse her. She accepted help and that is an uneven playing field.

I will ask again because you seem chatty. Do you believe that was fair play?
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the use of superdelegates was a joke, a way to
ensure she got the
nomination even if bernie was winning states, he could fall
further behind in the delegate count.

democrats ain’t big on democracy, unless they get what they want. we see that again and again and again.
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PaulS 09-30-2019 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175391)
follow if you can...

Pete said russian hacking if emails
was bad

i said that if the emails harmed hilary, that means the emails
revealed things the voters didn’t like, in which case perhaps the content of the emails ( what she did) is as important as who released the emails

you then asked
about what the emails claimed she did. and you’re saying that they don’t contain anything important. if that’s true, then they didn’t hurt hilary.

i don’t think you have to answer anything. but if i
answer your questions and you won’t answer mine ( because the answer doesn’t serve your agenda), i’m gonna point that out. if you don’t like that, i suggest maybe you answer the question.

i don’t care about the emails. it’s just funny when liberals
claim the emails revealed
nothing substantial about hilary, and simultaneously claim they helped cause her defeat.
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Stamp your feet a little harder and complain why I'm not answering your question. I didn't ask anything about the emails. You're being delusional.
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1175394)
Stamp your feet a little harder and complain why I'm not answering your question. I didn't ask anything about the emails. You're being delusional.
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you asked what she did that was unethical. you asked that in the context of the emails.
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detbuch 09-30-2019 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1175381)
NEW: Attorney General William Barr has held private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials, including in the U.K. and Italy, seeking their help in investigation of the Russia investigation.

Was this illegal or inappropriate?

PaulS 09-30-2019 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1175392)
Yes I do.

I never said anything about one question ruining his chances,you did. I said Sanders believes the nomination was rigged. That is why he did not endorse her. She accepted help and that is an uneven playing field.

I will ask again because you seem chatty. Do you believe that was fair play?
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Firstly thank you for admitting your hypocrite. You might want to be Petty and point out the spelling in that sentence. I asked what did hillary do that was unethical because Jim made that statement. You said screwing over Bernie to start, not that Bernie said it. So I will ask again what exactly did Hillary do that was unethical bc I really don't know what you guys are talking about. Are you talking about receiving a question because that's not her being unethical that's Donna brazile being unethical.
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Sea Dangles 09-30-2019 08:54 PM

I will answer again. She accepted help that gave her an UNFAIR advantage.
Would you do the same PaulS, surely you were raised better than that.
When are you going to answer my question?
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1175399)
I will answer again. She accepted help that gave her an UNFAIR advantage.
Would you do the same PaulS, surely you were raised better than that.
When are you going to answer my question?
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he doesn’t have to
answer, and you’re clearly very angry.
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 08:58 PM

Putin’s goals are to get out from under 2 sets of sanctions: one based on messing with our 2016 election, one on invading Ukraine. Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine into settling with Russia & to “prove” Russia didn’t mess with us in 2016 make sense as ways to please Putin. QED
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1175396)
Was this illegal or inappropriate?

Conservatives pretended to be furious that Bill Clinton said hi to Loretta Lynch on a tarmac. Now imagine she'd traversed the globe trying to substantiate anti-Romney smears. That these are different abuses of the office doesn't make this proper or "reasonable."
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 09:03 PM

NEW: President Trump just told the White House press pool that he is actively "trying to find out" who the whistleblower is.

The President is violating the Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989, 5 U.S.C. 2302(b)(8)-(9), Pub.L. 101-12.
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 09:04 PM

New Quinnipiac poll: Do you think President Trump should be impeached and removed from office?

NOW
Yes 47%
No 47%

LAST WEEK
Yes 37%
No 57%
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1175402)
Conservatives pretended to be furious that Bill Clinton said hi to Loretta Lynch on a tarmac. Now imagine she'd traversed the globe trying to substantiate anti-Romney smears. That these are different abuses of the office doesn't make this proper or "reasonable."
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you know what was said on the plane? wow...
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1175404)
New Quinnipiac poll: Do you think President Trump should be impeached and removed from office?

NOW
Yes 47%
No 47%

LAST WEEK
Yes 37%
No 57%
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let’s skip the election and just coronate liz warren.
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PaulS 09-30-2019 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1175399)
I will answer again. She accepted help that gave her an UNFAIR advantage.
Would you do the same PaulS, surely you were raised better than that.
When are you going to answer my question?
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What help? Being given a question ahead of time and that she would have been prepared for anyways? Didn't you just say that you had no problem with Rodger Ailes giving Trump questions ahead of time?. How is that not the same?
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PaulS 09-30-2019 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175400)
he doesn’t have to
answer, and you’re clearly very angry.
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aren't you the one who said something about someone here masturbating on a photo of Obama? What shows less class and more anger then that?
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Jim in CT 09-30-2019 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1175407)
What help? Being given a question ahead of time and that she would have been prepared for anyways? Didn't you just say that you had no problem with Rodger Ailes giving Trump ahead of time?. How is that not the same?
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you don’t think that giving ( and receiving) a debate question ahead of time that’s not given to
the other candidate, isn’t helping the person who received the question.

Gotcha.

How about the use of superdelegates, where bernie could
win a state but fall behind in the delegate count?
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175406)
let’s skip the election and just coronate liz warren.
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Unlike Trump, I think she would refuse the coronation
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PaulS 09-30-2019 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175395)
you asked what she did that was unethical. you asked that in the context of the emails.
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I never asked anything in the context of emails. I said simply what exactly did she do that was unethical and no one has answered the question. I think SD is talking about receiving a question for the debate ahead of time but he hasn't clearly articulated that.
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 09:15 PM

I think the Trumplicans have stepped thru a space time continuum and gone back to 2016
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 09:16 PM

To contradict and undermine the entire IC of the United States, to exonerate Russia.
This is the foreign policy they’re advancing.
Russia’s foreign policy.

Putin’s Puppet
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PaulS 09-30-2019 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1175409)
you don’t think that giving ( and receiving) a debate question ahead of time that’s not given to
the other candidate, isn’t helping the person who received the question.

Gotcha.

How about the use of superdelegates, where bernie could
win a state but fall behind in the delegate count?
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it certainly is helpful to the person receiving the question but it is not unethical on Hillary's part someone comes up to her and said hey here's what they're going to ask you tomorrow. It's unethical for Donna brazile to do that. If Hillary approached brazile and asked for the questions that would be unethical but that clearly did not happen. But no one seems to have a problem that Trump was given questions by Rodger Ailes. And Hillary had no part in the super delegates so how is that her being unethical?

Gotcha- what a clown.
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 09:23 PM

Realize some people would call it a "nothing burger" if Trump turned out to be a cannibalistic serial killer and was caught.
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Sea Dangles 09-30-2019 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1175407)
What help? Being given a question ahead of time and that she would have been prepared for anyways? Didn't you just say that you had no problem with Rodger Ailes giving Trump questions ahead of time?. How is that not the same?
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Please don’t breed, Paul.
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detbuch 09-30-2019 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1175402)
Conservatives pretended to be furious that Bill Clinton said hi to Loretta Lynch on a tarmac. Now imagine she'd traversed the globe trying to substantiate anti-Romney smears. That these are different abuses of the office doesn't make this proper or "reasonable."

Since you didn't, or couldn't, answer the question, I'll do it for you. No, it was not illegal or inappropriate for Attorney General William Barr to have private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials, including in the U.K. and Italy, seeking their help in investigation of the current ongoing Russia investigation.

The U.S. has a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty with both Italy and the U.K. Asking for assistance in the Russia investigation if those countries have information that can be of help is not only legal and appropriate and even reasonable, but a dereliction if the assistance was not asked.

This is in no way comparable to Lorreta Lynch tarmac issue, nor at all like seeking smears, especially if not related to an ongoing criminal investigation, and it certainly was not an abuse of office.

PaulS 09-30-2019 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1175416)
Please don’t breed, Paul.
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Ok hypocrite.

It is no wonder why someone on here previously called you a vile person.
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Pete F. 09-30-2019 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1175417)
Since you didn't, or couldn't, answer the question, I'll do it for you. No, it was not illegal or inappropriate for Attorney General William Barr to have private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials, including in the U.K. and Italy, seeking their help in investigation of the current ongoing Russia investigation.

The U.S. has a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty with both Italy and the U.K. Asking for assistance in the Russia investigation if those countries have information that can be of help is not only legal and appropriate and even reasonable, but a dereliction if the assistance was not asked.

This is in no way comparable to Lorreta Lynch tarmac issue, nor at all like seeking smears, especially if not related to an ongoing criminal investigation, and it certainly was not an abuse of office.

Putin’s goals are to get out from under 2 sets of sanctions: one based on messing with our 2016 election, one on invading Ukraine. Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine into settling with Russia & to “prove” Russia didn’t mess with us in 2016 make sense as ways to please Putin.

To contradict and undermine the entire IC of the United States, to exonerate Russia.
This is the foreign policy they’re advancing.
Russia’s foreign policy.

Putin’s Puppet

So ironic that a supposed nationalist like Trump isn't trusting his own citizens but is actively seeking international assistance to support his failing presidency & re-election chances.

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Pete F. 09-30-2019 10:03 PM

Flashback: May 1.

Harris: Has the president or anyone at the W.H. ever asked or suggested that you open an investigation of anyone?
Barr: Um.
...
Harris: Seems you'd remember something like that and be able to tell us.
Barr: Yeah, but I'm trying to grapple with the word suggest.
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detbuch 09-30-2019 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1175419)
Putin’s goals are to get out from under 2 sets of sanctions: one based on messing with our 2016 election, one on invading Ukraine. Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine into settling with Russia & to “prove” Russia didn’t mess with us in 2016 make sense as ways to please Putin.

To contradict and undermine the entire IC of the United States, to exonerate Russia.
This is the foreign policy they’re advancing.
Russia’s foreign policy.

Putin’s Puppet

You keep doing this kind of chit. My post to which you responded here was:
Originally Posted by detbuch
"Since you didn't, or couldn't, answer the question, I'll do it for you. No, it was not illegal or inappropriate for Attorney General William Barr to have private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials, including in the U.K. and Italy, seeking their help in investigation of the current ongoing Russia investigation.

"The U.S. has a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty with both Italy and the U.K. Asking for assistance in the Russia investigation if those countries have information that can be of help is not only legal and appropriate and even reasonable, but a dereliction if the assistance was not asked.

"This is in no way comparable to Lorreta Lynch tarmac issue, nor at all like seeking smears, especially if not related to an ongoing criminal investigation, and it certainly was not an abuse of office."

Your reply here HAS ABSOLUTELY NO COHERENT CONNECTION TO MY POST. You do this a lot. Instead of responding to a post, you just go off on more of your obsessive conjectures about Trump bad, or Trump Putin's Puppet.

It's really not worth responding to you. You just use it as a platform to keep ranting and making unsubstantiated claims rather than maintaining a rational discussion.

detbuch 09-30-2019 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1175419)

So ironic that a supposed nationalist like Trump isn't trusting his own citizens but is actively seeking international assistance to support his failing presidency & re-election chances.

This add on was not part of your original reply to my post. It is just as ignorant as that reply. He is not seeking international assistance because he doesn't trust his own citizens--HIS OWN CITIZEN, whom you mentioned as the one seeking assistance, is doing the investigation!!

Pete F. 10-01-2019 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1175423)
This add on was not part of your original reply to my post. It is just as ignorant as that reply. He is not seeking international assistance because he doesn't trust his own citizens--HIS OWN CITIZEN, whom you mentioned as the one seeking assistance, is doing the investigation!!

Reminder: To this day, the Trump campaign can’t explain: 1) Why they had so many Russian contacts; 2) why they were glad to meet them; 3) why they never called the FBI; and 4) why they lied about it every time.

Their answer is to try to blame the FBI for ever asking about it.
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Pete F. 10-01-2019 04:03 AM

For Crimin’ Out Loud
Omg they are trying to track down a super secret plot from the time of Da Vinci and Michelangelo to work w Joe Biden to frame the 45th US President and they will threaten to remain in beautiful Italy unless the Italian Govt and Vatican turn over their files.
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Jim in CT 10-01-2019 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1175411)
I never asked anything in the context of emails. I said simply what exactly did she do that was unethical and no one has answered the question. I think SD is talking about receiving a question for the debate ahead of time but he hasn't clearly articulated that.
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ok paul, this is surreal.

i said the emails revealed that she acted unethically.

you then immediately asked me to specify what she did that was unethical.

but you weren’t referring to the emails in any way.

i gotta go, i’m due back on the planet earth.
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