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Pete F. 01-31-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1161256)
When did you think America wasn't great.

Apparently he listened to Trump’s inauguration speech
As George Bush said: That was some wierd #^&#^&#^&#^&
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The Dad Fisherman 01-31-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1161248)
Perhaps it is because Trumps goal is to be in everybody's head everyday, all day and he is quite effective at it.

Fixed it

Sea Dangles 01-31-2019 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1161256)
When did you think America wasn't great.

Paul, I am not hating on the country and never have. I will not threaten to leave or stomp my feet regardless of who is in power. I do see room for improvement however. This message is almost identical to the famous Michelle O’bama quote that liberals defended endlessly. Now that it is associated with a Republican,the liberals turn it into a message of hate and oppression.
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Sea Dangles 01-31-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1161257)
Apparently he listened to Trump’s inauguration speech
As George Bush said: That was some wierd #^&#^&#^&#^&
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Ha, you are getting like Wayne. Thanks for attempting to crawl into my thoughts. Is this a new snowflake super power?
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Pete F. 01-31-2019 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1161260)
Paul, I am not hating on the country and never have. I will not threaten to leave or stomp my feet regardless of who is in power. I do see room for improvement however. This message is almost identical to the famous Michelle O’bama quote that conservative media attacked mercilessly. Now that it is associated with a Republican,the liberals turn it into a message of hate and oppression.
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Fixed it for you :grins:

Jim in CT 01-31-2019 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1161248)
And so far his legislative accomplishments are not noteworthy.

Except my net pay is up, my IRA is up, GDP is up, unemployment is down, and ISIL is having a rough time...

Pete, when you ignore his accomplishments, I agree it's easy to say he hasn't done anything.

Jim in CT 01-31-2019 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1161258)
Fixed it

Yes you did.

PaulS 01-31-2019 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1161260)
Paul, I am not hating on the country and never have. I will not threaten to leave or stomp my feet regardless of who is in power. I do see room for improvement however. This message is almost identical to the famous Michelle O’bama quote that liberals defended endlessly. Now that it is associated with a Republican,the liberals turn it into a message of hate and oppression.
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No it isn't.

She clarified what she said. You said that "I just happen to think making America great again is a good thing" along with the attempted backhanded slap.

So, when did you think America wasn't great bc your statement clearly says America is/wasn't great at some point.

If you think like Jim said that we should alwayst try to be better, that is a different statement.

Cool Beans 01-31-2019 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1161255)
Maybe you should try using your "superior intellect" or "critical thinking" instead of always trying to insult people in your posts.

I don't remember calling or even inferring to your inferior in intellect, never called you a racist, occasionally I do admit that I have made jokes about Spence and his manhood... but that's about it.

I think I have done pretty well lately trying to explain why I think the way I do and have not called anyone names or insulting people. I just don't understand how you think the way you do....

When unemployment rates were too high, when health care costs went up instead of down like was promised, when I couldn't keep the same doctor, when every time white on black crime creates a riot or protest but not black on black or black on white, when tax rates were too high, when lack of border security is causing real problems both drugs and criminal. These are just a few things why America wasn't as Great as it used to be. None of these things that I feel are important to Make America Great Again are RACIST. Almost all of the policies and changes that the Trump Administration has put through are making America greater than it was. Not that long ago, anyone could wear any hat no matter what and it wouldn't cause that person to get beaten up or chased out of a place of business. It has become so bad now, that your whole life can be ruined by wearing a hat. Social media has made it exponentially worse.. a quick screenshot showing only part of a story and BOOM.... you are now getting death threats and your school has to close... WTF... this is INSANE....

Pete F. 01-31-2019 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1161248)
Perhaps it is because Trumps goal is to be in the news everyday, all day and he is quite effective at it.

Numerous experienced politicians have told him he'd get more accomplished if he behaved differently.

He has not changed.

And so far his legislative accomplishments are not noteworthy.

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1161263)
Except my net pay is up, my IRA is up, GDP is up, unemployment is down, and ISIL is having a rough time...

Pete, when you ignore his accomplishments, I agree it's easy to say he hasn't done anything.

I didn't ignore any thing, what I said was "And so far his legislative accomplishments are not noteworthy".

Perhaps like Scott, you think he is not responsible for legislation since he is not a "legislator"

wdmso 01-31-2019 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1161227)
of course they have meanings. but an “i love mao” hat isn’t the same as maga, because you can’tl compare trump and mao.
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There you go again comparing things as the same .. A trump hat and a mao T-shirt are only the same in that they invoke a response of the person wearing it. Absent of knowing the person ...under the hat or wearing the T shirt
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Jim in CT 01-31-2019 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1161265)
No it isn't.

She clarified what she said. You said that "I just happen to think making America great again is a good thing" along with the attempted backhanded slap.

So, when did you think America wasn't great bc your statement clearly says America is/wasn't great at some point.

If you think like Jim said that we should alwayst try to be better, that is a different statement.

who cares if she clarified her statement, after she caught heat for saying it.

and if your issue with trumps slogan is the word “again”, how about obama’s slogan if hope
and change? doesn’t that imply that things are currently pretty damn bad? but it’s ok when obama says that currently, america stinks. and he cane up with that slogan way before the market crash, so it wasn’t that .

there’s the double standard.
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PaulS 01-31-2019 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1161270)
who cares if she clarified her statement, after she caught heat for saying it. Bc usually in this country we give people the benefit of the doubt if they apologize for a mistake or a misstament. And we don't constantly bring those things up again and again (or most of us don't)

and if your issue with trumps slogan is the word “again”, how about obama’s slogan if hope
and change? doesn’t that imply that things are currently pretty damn bad? No, I don't think it does. Isn't that part of trying to do better - hope to make things better and if there is a way to do something better, than make that change. Totally different from implying that America is no longer great and and we need to make it great again. but it’s ok when obama says that currently, america stinks. and he cane up with that slogan way before the market crash, so it wasn’t that .

there’s the double standard.
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No double standard. It just that some people are ignoring what some people are implying what MAGA (and build the wall) mean.

scottw 01-31-2019 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1161274)
No double standard. It just that some people are ignoring what some people are implying what MAGA (and build the wall) mean.

how many beers is that for you today already?

PaulS 01-31-2019 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1161275)
how many beers is that for you today already?

You've been talking about beers a lot lately but I don't see you offering any up.

Pete F. 01-31-2019 12:23 PM

How dare you criticize Trump here, You can't do it in Conservative Media either.

For more than a decade, RedState was a solid voice in the world of online conservative commentary. Unfortunately, the allure of Trumpism has left the once great site a shell of its former self.
We are conservatives. We believe in limited government, the free market, the Constitution, and protecting the rights of the unborn. We have therefore supported the Republican Party and believed in the Republican Party for years.

But a healthy Republican Party cannot exist without a healthy conservative media; likewise, a toxic, poisonous conservative media is like a parasite for the conservative movement— and, make no mistake, it will eventually kill it.

We publish this with the hope that it serves to push the Republican Party and conservative media back to the ones we respected, admired, and believed in.


https://thebulwark.com/why-we-are-quitting-redstate/

scottw 01-31-2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1161276)
You've been talking about beers a lot lately but I don't see you offering any up.

I'd drink with you anytime....maybe when it gets a bit warmer and the fish come back

Jim in CT 01-31-2019 01:50 PM

so saying “make
america great again” is too negtive, as it implies the current situation isn’t great.

but a slogan of “hope and change”, is fine, somehow that doesn’t have a negative connotation about the current state of affairs.

i don’t get it. they both imply that the current situation needs fixing.
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spence 01-31-2019 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1161284)
so saying “make
america great again” is too negtive, as it implies the current situation isn’t great.

but a slogan of “hope and change”, is fine, somehow that doesn’t have a negative connotation about the current state of affairs.

i don’t get it. they both imply that the current situation needs fixing.
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Again implies we aren't great at the moment, I don't see any other way to spin that.

"Hope" is just a positive, confident word. "Change" doesn't imply we aren't great but that we can do better. Improve access to healthcare, improve environmental responsibility, less war, a non-nuclear Iran, more equality for the LGBT community etc... pretty much all the stuff that Trump is working to reverse.

Now you could argue that in Trump's mind we weren't great under Obama for the types of changes he helped to usher in. So maybe MAGA really means kick people off of health insurance, trash the environment, more war, discriminate against the gay community etc...

So we can be great again if that's what great means to you. It certainly seems like that's what it means to Trump.

Sea Dangles 01-31-2019 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1161265)
No it isn't.

She clarified what she said. You said that "I just happen to think making America great again is a good thing" along with the attempted backhanded slap.

So, when did you think America wasn't great bc your statement clearly says America is/wasn't great at some point.

If you think like Jim said that we should alwayst try to be better, that is a different statement.

I think there are a lot of ways to make improvements Paul,such as veterans services and health care etc. But personally,I feel the country struggled during the previous administration. There were instances where I thought feelings were put before national security and the world lost a lot of respect for the United States as a global superpower. Thanks for asking.
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scottw 01-31-2019 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1161289)
Again implies we aren't great at the moment, I don't see any other way to spin that.

"Hope" is just a positive, confident word. "Change" doesn't imply we aren't great but that we can do better. Improve access to healthcare, improve environmental responsibility, less war, a non-nuclear Iran, more equality for the LGBT community etc... pretty much all the stuff that Trump is working to reverse.

Now you could argue that in Trump's mind we weren't great under Obama for the types of changes he helped to usher in. So maybe MAGA really means kick people off of health insurance, trash the environment, more war, discriminate against the gay community etc...

So we can be great again if that's what great means to you. It certainly seems like that's what it means to Trump.

this is dumb

spence 01-31-2019 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1161291)
I think there are a lot of ways to make improvements Paul,such as veterans services and health care etc. But personally,I feel the country struggled during the previous administration. There were instances where I thought feelings were put before national security and the world lost a lot of respect for the United States as a global superpower. Thanks for asking.
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Obama's leadership ratings didn't fare well in Russia and Israel but the rest of the planet gave him favorable or very high marks. These evaporated under Trump to be even lower than 43.

I guess one way to think about national security is if the rest of the world hates you.

Sea Dangles 01-31-2019 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1161294)
Obama's leadership ratings didn't fare well in Russia and Israel but the rest of the planet gave him favorable or very high marks. These evaporated under Trump to be even lower than 43.

I guess one way to think about national security is if the rest of the world hates you.

Jeff, you are always going to have differences with neighbors but the idea is not to start trouble. Trying to prevent such an occurrence and the ability to handle such is also incumbent on the office. A healthy respect is more valuable than a smile and a bow in some instances. There are plenty of folks out there that you may not wish to have a beer with. There are also plenty you may not tempt by F’ing with them. Of course the rest of the world liked O’bama,he blew them all kisses and gave them money for ice cream.
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Nebe 01-31-2019 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1161296)
Jeff, you are always going to have differences with neighbors but the idea is not to start trouble. Trying to prevent such an occurrence and the ability to handle such is also incumbent on the office. A healthy respect is more valuable than a smile and a bow in some instances. There are plenty of folks out there that you may not wish to have a beer with. There are also plenty you may not tempt by F’ing with them. Of course the rest of the world liked O’bama,he blew them all kisses and gave them money for ice cream.
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It’s like you can be the douchebag neighbor or the cool neighbor.

I know who’s getting invited to all the cookouts... ;)
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Sea Dangles 01-31-2019 08:52 PM

The one with the best weed!
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wdmso 02-05-2019 06:25 PM

According to the Washington Post, Trump has taken some 19 trips to Mar-A-Lago during his presidency so far. If the average cost of $3.4 million for the first four trips is extrapolated, that means the President's vacations have cost taxpayers at least $64.6 million. And that doesn't count travel to his club in Bedminster, N.J., where Trump goes in the summer.




Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I say we cannot continue to let Obama fly around on Air Force 1, at a cost of millions of dollars a day, for the purpose of politics & play!

Yep no double standards On the Right

Sea Dangles 02-05-2019 06:38 PM

Thanks for exposing that Wayne.
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wdmso 02-06-2019 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1161555)
Thanks for exposing that Wayne.
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your welcome ... Just trying to help seeing your own
double standards, only allows you to respond to things that defend Trump...:kewl:

Sea Dangles 02-06-2019 07:35 AM

How does me thanking you get construed as defending Trump?
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