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Jim in CT 12-04-2018 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1156799)
Soros next sentence or so in the 60 minutes interview is also interesting.
He doesn't feel guilty about others losing when he wins in the market and makes an analogy to that effect.
Should he in your opinion feel guilty about that also?

No, a normal person wouldn’t feel guilty about doing well in the market, because despite what liberals tend to believe, his success in the market, isn’t causing anyone else to fail. Why should
he feel guilty if he is better at investing than someone else?

If soros does better in the stock market than i do, that’s one thing. soros collaborating with Nazis, is a wee bit different.

you people are completely insane. you’re comparing soros getting better investment returns than someone else, to collaborating with Nazis?

Ill ask again...what are you afraid will happen to you, if you admit that a normal person would feel some guilt for choosing ( even under godawful threats) to collaborate with Holicaust perpetrators? Do you think you’d die if you admitted he has a screw loose?
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Pete F. 12-04-2018 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1156804)
No, a normal person wouldn’t feel guilty about doing well in the market, because despite what liberals tend to believe, his success in the market, isn’t causing anyone else to fail. Why should
he feel guilty if he is better at investing than someone else?

If soros does better in the stock market than i do, that’s one thing. soros collaborating with Nazis, is a wee bit different.

you people are completely insane. you’re comparing soros getting better investment returns than someone else, to collaborating with Nazis?

Ill ask again...what are you afraid will happen to you, if you admit that a normal person would feel some guilt for choosing ( even under godawful threats) to collaborate with Holicaust perpetrators? Do you think you’d die if you admitted he has a screw loose?
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How did Soros make a billion dollars in a day?
Others lost.
He's a trader, not an investor.
George Soros is most famous for his single-day gain of $1 billion on September 16, 1992, which he made by short selling the British pound. At the time, England was part of the European Exchange Rate Mechanism, a fixed exchange-rate system that included other European countries. The other countries were pressuring England to devalue its currency in relation to the other countries in the system or to leave the system. England resisted the devaluation, but with continued pressure from the fixed system and speculators in the currency market, England floated its currency and the value of the pound suffered. By leveraging the value of his fund, Soros was able to take a $10 billion short position on the pound, which earned him $1 billion. This trade is considered one of the greatest trades of all time, and Soros is often credited as the man who broke the Bank of England.

Jim in CT 12-04-2018 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1156806)
How did Soros make a billion dollars in a day?
Others lost.
He's a trader, not an investor.
George Soros is most famous for his single-day gain of $1 billion on September 16, 1992, which he made by short selling the British pound. At the time, England was part of the European Exchange Rate Mechanism, a fixed exchange-rate system that included other European countries. The other countries were pressuring England to devalue its currency in relation to the other countries in the system or to leave the system. England resisted the devaluation, but with continued pressure from the fixed system and speculators in the currency market, England floated its currency and the value of the pound suffered. By leveraging the value of his fund, Soros was able to take a $10 billion short position on the pound, which earned him $1 billion. This trade is considered one of the greatest trades of all time, and Soros is often credited as the man who broke the Bank of England.

"How did Soros make a billion dollars in a day?
Others lost."

The loss of others, was NOT a requirement for Soros to win. Like many ignorant people, you think the economy is a zero sum game. It's not. There's no mathematical law saying that someone has to fail in order for someone else to succeed. It's not finite. It's possible that every stock on the exchange can go up in a given day, that does NOT mean anyone else necessarily lost anything. How can you not get that?

Others losing, isn't "how" he won, not unless he cheated. Are you saying he cheated? Was he involved in a 'pump and dump'?

He bet the value of the pound would decrease. His bet, did not cause the pound to decrease.

Pete F. 12-04-2018 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1156807)
"How did Soros make a billion dollars in a day?
Others lost."

The loss of others, was NOT a requirement for Soros to win. Like many ignorant people, you think the economy is a zero sum game. It's not. There's no mathematical law saying that someone has to fail in order for someone else to succeed. It's not finite. It's possible that every stock on the exchange can go up in a given day, that does NOT mean anyone else necessarily lost anything. How can you not get that?

Others losing, isn't "how" he won, not unless he cheated. Are you saying he cheated? Was he involved in a 'pump and dump'?

He bet the value of the pound would decrease. His bet, did not cause the pound to decrease.

He didn't cause it but it was basically similar to a pump that got dumped, done by the Bank of England to try and prop up the pound that he took advantage of. Others lost, he gained.
So, you're correct, he no more caused that loss than he caused the loss of property to the transported Jews.

Jim in CT 12-04-2018 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1156809)
He didn't cause it but it was basically similar to a pump that got dumped, done by the Bank of England to try and prop up the pound that he took advantage of. Others lost, he gained.
So, you're correct, he no more caused that loss than he caused the loss of property to the transported Jews.

"He didn't cause it but it was basically similar to a pump that got dumped"

But it didn't get dumped because of him. If he didn't contribut eto it, he has no reason to feel guilty.

"he no more caused that loss than he caused the loss of property to the transported Jews"

In the 60 Minutes interview, he didn't deny helping the Nazis seize Jewish property. He said he didn't feel guilty about it, which necessarily means he concedes that he did it. So I'm not sure how you seem to know more about his role, than he does.

If he didn't help the Nazis, he would have said "I didn't help the Nazis". What he said was that he helped them, and he doesn't feel guilty about it.

The liberals here are all over the place on this. The only thing you can agree on, is that you can't bear to admit what he himself admits.

spence 12-04-2018 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1156804)
Ill ask again...what are you afraid will happen to you, if you admit that a normal person would feel some guilt for choosing ( even under godawful threats) to collaborate with Holicaust perpetrators? Do you think you’d die if you admitted he has a screw loose?
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Do you ever contemplate that maybe you’re just wrong?

Snopes!
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Pete F. 12-04-2018 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1156812)
"He didn't cause it but it was basically similar to a pump that got dumped"

But it didn't get dumped because of him. If he didn't contribut eto it, he has no reason to feel guilty.

"he no more caused that loss than he caused the loss of property to the transported Jews"

In the 60 Minutes interview, he didn't deny helping the Nazis seize Jewish property. He said he didn't feel guilty about it, which necessarily means he concedes that he did it. So I'm not sure how you seem to know more about his role, than he does.

If he didn't help the Nazis, he would have said "I didn't help the Nazis". What he said was that he helped them, and he doesn't feel guilty about it.

The liberals here are all over the place on this. The only thing you can agree on, is that you can't bear to admit what he himself admits.

Walk thru you logic
He didn’t cause the market loss no guilt
He didn’t cause the holocaust no guilt
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wdmso 12-04-2018 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1156791)
you are out of your
mind. i don’t like glenn beck at all. but if he says that 2+2=4, am i supposed to disagree?

wdmso, you drink water. Hitler also drank water. can i therefore conclude that you are like Hitler?

Steve Croft, the 60 Minutes interviewer, was also stunned that soros felt no guilt later. is Kroft like Glenn Beck too?
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That's the issue you think beck Ann colter and all the other fringe right have the math right... but not sure how 2+2= nazi collaborator ..because they cleary think that . just saying regardless of the Truth and for the record i found his lack of empathy alarming but not as evidence of wrong doing being in the SS and all the other bs

Jim in CT 12-04-2018 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1156814)
Do you ever contemplate that maybe you’re just wrong?

Snopes!
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i’m wrong very often. Not here.

What’s in this Snopes piece, which could possibly be more revealing, that wht Soros said himself?
‘Snopes’ isn’t a response. Give me some details.
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Jim in CT 12-04-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1156816)
Walk thru you logic
He didn’t cause the market loss no guilt
He didn’t cause the holocaust no guilt
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He actively helped the nazis confiscate property from jews. He didn’t cause the Holicaust, but he collaborated with those who did. He admitted this to steve croft. if you still didn’t get how that’s a tad more sinister than innocently playing the commodities market, i can’t help you, try to find a pop-up book that explains it.
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detbuch 12-04-2018 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1156829)
He actively helped the nazis confiscate property from jews. He didn’t cause the Holicaust, but he collaborated with those who did. He admitted this to steve croft. if you still didn’t get how that’s a tad more sinister than innocently playing the commodities market, i can’t help you, try to find a pop-up book that explains it.
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Jim, here's a video which explains why the Snopes thing is a lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNGMvPMjXp4

This will not convince Spence or wdmso or PeteF, et al., but
it is a rebuttal of Snopes--take it for what you will.

wdmso 12-05-2018 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1156835)
Jim, here's a video which explains why the Snopes thing is a lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNGMvPMjXp4

This will not convince Spence or wdmso or PeteF, et al., but
it is a rebuttal of Snopes--take it for what you will.

Wow funny they didn't cover the real guy in the SS uniform you got SMOKING GUN NOT NICE TRY.. so you in the nazi collaborator camp. of course you are

wdmso 12-05-2018 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1156828)
i’m wrong very often. Not here.

What’s in this Snopes piece, which could possibly be more revealing, that wht Soros said himself?
‘Snopes’ isn’t a response. Give me some details.
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IT'S CALLED BEING 14 YEARS OLD ..... even if he moved 100 suit case's from 1 pile to another or just watched neither makes a 14 year old who is aware what will happen to him if they find out he is a JEW a NAZI Collaborator which you insist he is .....

History is full of people doing what was necessary to survive .. we all know why he's a conservative target... minus conservatives they have no idea

But are upset in another thread about the disrespect of Bushes service dog .... confused

Jim in CT 12-05-2018 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1156838)
IT'S CALLED BEING 14 YEARS OLD ..... even if he moved 100 suit case's from 1 pile to another or just watched neither makes a 14 year old who is aware what will happen to him if they find out he is a JEW a NAZI Collaborator which you insist he is .....

History is full of people doing what was necessary to survive .. we all know why he's a conservative target... minus conservatives they have no idea

But are upset in another thread about the disrespect of Bushes service dog .... confused

no one is criticizing what he did at age 14. For the fifth time, you are intellectually unable to differentiate between what he did at age 14, and admitting as an adult that he feels no remorse about what he did at age 14.

Two different things. it’s not about what he did, not at all. It’s that he doesn’t feel bad about what he was forced to do. As steve croft said in the 60 minutes interview, being forced to collaborate with nazis as a kid, would send a lot of people ( all normal people) to the psychiatrists couch.

No one is attacking him for what he did at age 14. He’s being criticized for feeling no remorse about it as an adult. Those are two different things.
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detbuch 12-05-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1156837)
Wow funny they didn't cover the real guy in the SS uniform you got SMOKING GUN NOT NICE TRY.. so you in the nazi collaborator camp. of course you are

They did cover it, said that it was wrong. I didn't try anything. I'm not in the camp. I don't care if he collaborated or not. I don't care about your definition of collaboration. I don't care about his excuses of being 14 or if he didn't do it someone else would. I don't care that there were many Jews that collaborated or cooperated with the NAZIs in order to save their lives. I don't care that Jews hunted out these turncoats later and prosecuted them.

I posted the video because Spence kept telling Jim to "read the Snopes." While, at the same time, Spence was trying to demonize the Koch brothers with the overused and inaccurate dog whistle accusation of being "radical." That was the con job that I thought was hypocritical--that Soros is not, as Jim suggests, the counterbalance to the Koch brothers, rather Soros is Justified, the Koch bros. are not.

Spence likes to accuse Trump of being a con artist. Spence is a slick con artist. But that's OK. Because Spence has class.

Pete F. 12-05-2018 10:52 AM

Trump has class, haven’t you seen the pictures of his stuff, like apartment, wife, plane, golf course.
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detbuch 12-05-2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1156861)
Trump has class, haven’t you seen the pictures of his stuff, like apartment, wife, plane, golf course.
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You're another slick con artist.

spence 12-05-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1156835)
Jim, here's a video which explains why the Snopes thing is a lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNGMvPMjXp4

This will not convince Spence or wdmso or PeteF, et al., but
it is a rebuttal of Snopes--take it for what you will.

Come on, this is a 3rd grade level of critical thinking here.
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detbuch 12-05-2018 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1156863)
Come on, this is a 3rd grade level of critical thinking here.
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Spence the con speaks.

Sea Dangles 12-05-2018 11:47 AM

Spence is desperate. Butthurt like the rest of the babies who are 1/4 of the way through their nightmare. I find it amusing to watch the daily dance . Hahahahahaha
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spence 12-05-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1156864)
Spence the con speaks.

I didn’t mean for the 3rd grade reference to bring out the 8 year old in you Mr President. Next you’ll be spouting petty nonesense like dangles.
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detbuch 12-05-2018 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1156870)
I didn’t mean for the 3rd grade reference to bring out the 8 year old in you Mr President. Next you’ll be spouting petty nonesense like dangles.
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The con continues.

Jim in CT 12-05-2018 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1156872)
The con continues.

But Snopes. Snopes!!!

spence 12-05-2018 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1156875)
But Snopes. Snopes!!!

You should read it
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