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wdmso 04-06-2022 07:22 PM

Facts First: Both Graham and Cornyn left out important context. Specifically, neither mentioned that Jackson's allegation of war crimes was about torture. Also, Jackson didn't explicitly use the phrase "war criminal."

It was about torture

Here’s another little fact

None of Jackson's four Guantanamo clients was ever convicted. Each of them was eventually released from Guantanamo.

Do some researching please
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Jim in CT 04-06-2022 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1225246)
Probably because it’s not true.

here’s fact-check saying she did defend gitmo detainees and said it was deplorable that we put them
there.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/th...tmo-detainees/
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Jim in CT 04-06-2022 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1225251)
Facts First: Both Graham and Cornyn left out important context. Specifically, neither mentioned that Jackson's allegation of war crimes was about torture. Also, Jackson didn't explicitly use the phrase "war criminal."

It was about torture

Here’s another little fact

None of Jackson's four Guantanamo clients was ever convicted. Each of them was eventually released from Guantanamo.

Do some researching please
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OJ was also acquitted and released.
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Pete F. 04-06-2022 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1225253)
OJ was also acquitted and released.
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Your point is?
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Jim in CT 04-06-2022 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1225255)
Your point is?
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the fact that her clients were released, doesn’t mean much.

she also wrote amicus briefs for
terrorists who weren’t her clients.

she’s going to get confirmed, no chance of a different outcome

the other point is this. Cotton didn’t even come close to calling her a Nazi.
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Pete F. 04-06-2022 08:04 PM

The people in Gitmo have been there for over twenty years.
Put your money where your rhetoric is
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spence 04-07-2022 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1225252)
here’s fact-check saying she did defend gitmo detainees and said it was deplorable that we put them
there.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/th...tmo-detainees/
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That doesn’t say what you think it says.

Jim in CT 04-07-2022 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1225260)
That doesn’t say what you think it says.

it says she defended gitmo defames and criticized the us military while
doing so. it also
says she wrote amicus briefs for detainees that she wasn’t formally representing, but who she wanted to help on her own time.

we know what it means when you lib these baseless insults spence. usually, not always, it means i’m right but you can’t bring yourself to admit it.

what did cotton say, specifically, that was wrong?

maybe she said the military was merely “deplorable” instead of specifically accusing it of war crimes. maybe.
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Jim in CT 04-07-2022 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1225260)
That doesn’t say what you think it says.

oh and here, according to CNN, she very specifically accuses the US of war crimes.

now, of course she has the right to say that. and others have the right to judge her for saying it, and to conclude that saying it makes her a potentially dangerous candidate for a lifetime appointment to SCOTUS.

Lindsay Graham voted for Kagan and Sotomayor. But he has concerns about Jackson. Maybe there’s a chance he has valid reasons to be concerned since he doesn’t blindly oppose all democrat nominees. A reason besides racism, that is.

You have to wonder if they picked a radical intentionally, just so that when the GOP questioned her about some of the controversial
things she’s said, the left could
claim “racism”. All they have to talk about, is Trump and racism.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/23/polit...eck/index.html
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Pete F. 04-07-2022 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1225257)
the fact that her clients were released, doesn’t mean much.

she also wrote amicus briefs for
terrorists who weren’t her clients.

she’s going to get confirmed, no chance of a different outcome

the other point is this. Cotton didn’t even come close to calling her a Nazi.
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Tom Cotton attacked Ketanji Brown Jackson by invoking name of American judge Robert Jackson who went to Nuremberg to prosecute Nazi war criminals, claiming Brown Jackson would've gone to Nuremberg to defend Nazis.
This smear of Ketanji Brown Jackson was especially odious & offensive in view of Tom Cotton's previous lie that he served as an Army Ranger under combat conditions in Iraq & Afghanistan. Same Tom Cotton who never condemned Trump for calling Nazis "very fine people."
Tom Cotton is a despicable racist lowlife.
Under the Constitution everyone has the right to legal representation. John Adams defended the British soldiers from the Boston massacre because everyone deserves legal representation.
Not just the wealthy.
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Jim in CT 04-07-2022 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1225274)
Tom Cotton attacked Ketanji Brown Jackson by invoking name of American judge Robert Jackson who went to Nuremberg to prosecute Nazi war criminals, claiming Brown Jackson would've gone to Nuremberg to defend Nazis.
This smear of Ketanji Brown Jackson was especially odious & offensive in view of Tom Cotton's previous lie that he served as an Army Ranger under combat conditions in Iraq & Afghanistan. Same Tom Cotton who never condemned Trump for calling Nazis "very fine people."
Tom Cotton is a despicable racist lowlife.
Under the Constitution everyone has the right to legal representation. John Adams defended the British soldiers from the Boston massacre because everyone deserves legal representation.
Not just the wealthy.
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"Tom Cotton attacked Ketanji Brown Jackson"

He sure did.

But he didn't call her a Nazi. Not even close. You lied.

wdmso 04-07-2022 01:53 PM

Only in Jim’s world unless it’s actually said by a Conservatives exactly. It’s not True . Even if everyone understands the message
Yet every thing Biden says is emblazoned with hidden meanings and intent. Funny how that works
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detbuch 04-07-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1225275)
"Tom Cotton attacked Ketanji Brown Jackson"

He sure did.

But he didn't call her a Nazi. Not even close. You lied.

And he keeps repeating the bald faced and debunked lie that Trump said NAZIs are very fine people.

spence 04-07-2022 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1225262)
oh and here, according to CNN, she very specifically accuses the US of war crimes.

Not really. First she was assigned to the cases as a public defender, second the briefs she filed were to document the clients assertions of torture which certainly could be considered a war crime. She was simply doing her job.

We tortured a number of Taliban Jim, just because they're bad guys doesn't make it not illegal under the Geneva Convention.

Pete F. 04-07-2022 04:29 PM

Republican senators and staffers stormed out in anger as the first Black woman was confirmed to the highest court in America. Don’t ever forget what we all just saw.
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Pete F. 04-07-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1225283)
And he keeps repeating the bald faced and debunked lie that Trump said NAZIs are very fine people.

He only kinda, sorta said that….
Baloney
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Jim in CT 04-07-2022 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1225287)
Not really. First she was assigned to the cases as a public defender, second the briefs she filed were to document the clients assertions of torture which certainly could be considered a war crime. She was simply doing her job.

We tortured a number of Taliban Jim, just because they're bad guys doesn't make it not illegal under the Geneva Convention.


the DOJ looked into it, and decided it wasnt illegal under the geneva convention. there was a legal
finding before we engaged in it.

if you’re telling me you wouldn’t water board someone to save your kids, you’re lying. if nuking two cities wasn’t a war crime, and it wasn’t, water boarding is nothing.

if you have a terrorist and have reasonable suspicion he can prevent an attack, it would
be immoral not to waterboard him.

how many american children are you prepared to sacrifice on the altar of not waterboarding jihadists, exactly? for me the answer is exactly zero.
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spence 04-07-2022 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1225290)
the DOJ looked into it, and decided it wasnt illegal under the geneva convention. there was a legal
finding before we engaged in it.

It was deemed justified by a Bush attorney who came up with a convoluted letter to support the policy. Take it to the Hague.

detbuch 04-07-2022 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1225289)
He only kinda, sorta said that….
Baloney
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He didn't say it in any way at all. It's baloney to say he did. It should be very easy to come up with an actual quote by him saying it. There is no such quote. As for the Charlottesville statement, he explained exactly to whom he was referring. He has condemned Neo Nazis and White Supremicists many times and many times incluing before Charlottesville.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...of_139815.html

Jim in CT 04-07-2022 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1225291)
It was deemed justified by a Bush attorney who came up with a convoluted letter to support the policy. Take it to the Hague.

You take it to the Hague. you made the accusation,,the burden is on you.

The president relies on a lawyer who’s be friendly to him. he’s supposed to ask a lawyer who hates republicans?
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Jim in CT 04-07-2022 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1225288)
Republican senators and staffers stormed out in anger as the first Black woman was confirmed to the highest court in America. Don’t ever forget what we all just saw.
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pete, is it possible to criticize a black person, and not be a racist?
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Jim in CT 04-07-2022 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1225289)
He only kinda, sorta said that….
Baloney
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He didn’t even come close to saying it. You got caught lying red handed.
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Pete F. 04-07-2022 08:27 PM

Jim, why do Trumplicans always project?
Former Trump aide, RNC operative, and “pro-life” activist Ruben Verastigui has just been sentenced to 12+ years in prison for child porn. He posted about how the sexual abuse of babies is his “absolute favorite.” There are allegedly more Republican staffers to come.
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Jim in CT 04-07-2022 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1225296)
Jim, why do Trumplicans always project?
Former Trump aide, RNC operative, and “pro-life” activist Ruben Verastigui has just been sentenced to 12+ years in prison for child porn. He posted about how the sexual abuse of babies is his “absolute favorite.” There are allegedly more Republican staffers to come.
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dun dun dun!!!

Anthony Weiner, Harvey Weinstein, Eric Swalwell, Bill Clinton, Tex Kennedy, Eliot Spitzer, Andrew Cuomo, more republican perverts.

if that guy was sentenced by Jackson, she’d probably have given him community service.
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Pete F. 04-07-2022 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1225300)
dun dun dun!!!

Anthony Weiner, Harvey Weinstein, Eric Swalwell, Bill Clinton, Tex Kennedy, Eliot Spitzer, Andrew Cuomo, more republican perverts.

if that guy was sentenced by Jackson, she’d probably have given him community service.
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But the child molesters are of your ilk.
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Pete F. 04-07-2022 09:31 PM

A great day for the USA. A typical day for Republicans. They never miss an opportunity to take the low road.
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detbuch 04-07-2022 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1225304)
A great day for the USA. A typical day for Republicans. They never miss an opportunity to take the low road.
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Authoritarian, omniscient Pete F says the Republicans take the low road. Pete seems to know everything. And he keeps telling us.

Pete F. 04-08-2022 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1225307)
Authoritarian, omniscient Pete F says the Republicans take the low road. Pete seems to know everything. And he keeps telling us.

Republicans are all about protecting kids, except for when it comes to poverty, healthcare, education, environment and vaccines.
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Jim in CT 04-08-2022 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1225304)
A typical day for Republicans. They never miss an opportunity to take the low road.
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https://www.wmal.com/2022/04/07/gove...tance-program/
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Pete F. 04-08-2022 07:44 AM

when Thurgood Marshall was confirmed in 1967 to become the first black man on the Supreme Court, 16 of 22 senators from the 11 states of the old Confederacy voted no or didn't vote

when Ketanji Brown Jackson was confirmed today to become the first black woman, 18 of 22 voted no
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