[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1231771]helps lower and middle income people? the income cap for families is $250,000.
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This program will completely erase the student debt of about 20 million.

20 million AMERICANS. Which includes republicans democrats independent all races and religions

And yet Republicans are upset

Let that soak in they are upset that 20 million people will have a few extra bucks to put back into their families
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this is almost exactly like partying in college for four years and hopefully getting a degree and then not wanting to pay for the loans someone promised to pay...

great comparison....:scream:

Scott, did you ever have a student loan?

Yep you’re on the wagon of only partying college students are the ones getting this relief

But I guess in your world view there are no students who’s have paid 90 k back . of the hundred k they borrowed ?

But They are partying losers for getting their last 10k relived .

I don’t consider Deserve and entitled as being same thing.


Ps who are all these people who don’t want to pay their loans back?

Oh wait that’s what you’ve been told is happening..

I bet. You think the 15% min corporate tax increases is a tax increase on you because that’s what you were told

Top Republican Tax-Writer Falsely Claims that Minimum Tax for Huge Corporations Is a Tax Hike on Middle-Class

See a trend
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yes, why does that matter?

I actually didn't say any of this....

I just realized why so many trumpers are loosing their minds over this.

THEY DIDN'T GO TO COLLEGE
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BC I just wondering if you understand the burden of college loans.

I thought you mon was a Dr. So how much did you have in loans?

I forgot You never say anything or imply anything ever .
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Every loan, not just college loans, is a burden, right?

Why college loans? Why not make us help other people with other kinds of loans?

People who make 250k a year need our help to pay off student loan debt? Schools with massive endowments need our help to stay flush with cash?

I don't get it. I get where pro-abortion people are coming from, I get where anti-gun people are coming from...this issue might be the stupidest idea in 100 years.

Why is the burden of a college loan more important than the burden of a mortgage? Or the burden of a car loan?

You wanted something, you borrowed the money to get it, now you have to pay it back. It’s really that simple.
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C’mon, you’re smarter than this. :rolleyes:
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All loans are a burden.

We do give mortg. interest deductions. Only benefits some and not others like renters.

Did you go to college ?
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renters are not paying a loan....not sure how that fits into "all loans are a burden"

We also used to at least, give student loan interest deductions. This isn't that. Not even close.

a select few benefit. Not renters in this case. The gov. subsidized my purchase of my house but doesn't provide a similar benefit to renters.

Our tax code (and other policies) picks winners and losers.

Nope, I went into the military out of HS. Although I did enroll in a certificate program and earned a certificate in Data Communications at Northeastern University when I got out.

Point???
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you keep making less sense ....

Do you think I've ever cared what you think?

Your a snarky troll who is such a #^&#^&#^&#^& that he would actually point out typos.

If you’re a Christian and mad about the possibility of student loan debt being canceled, let me remind you that your entire religion is based on a debt you couldn’t pay that someone stepped in and paid for you.
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he's arguing that we should do the right thing and create even more unfairness.....

it's not my fault that you don't make sense...if insulting me makes you feel better...I forgive you

I lobbed up a typo for you. I would have thought you would be all over it so it could put a smile on your face.

Probably wasn’t funny or ironic….
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Didn’t you ever learn, life’s not fair
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No, Scott. You are wrong. You, again, used a generalization about a specific group into which I would be a member of; people who took out student loans. Period. Done. You can't change that. You made the statement. Have the balls to stand by it, even amend it. But don't insult me for pointing out a response to your statement.

I cannot believe Scott has any issue with people who took out student loans, my wife and I both did. And I don't have an issue with anyone taking advantage of this program if they are eligible. Personally, I have issues with people who have felt entitled to this and advocated for it.

For most Americans, a strong system of public education is a core value.

Extremists want to destroy that in any and all forms.

Don’t let them.

As a Boomer myself, my generation didn't work hard to get the benefits we had, our parents & grandparents did. They didn't say "I didn't have that so why should you?" They said, "I want better for the next generations." Their boomer kids said "I'm good. Ef’m!”
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Gonna run up the BS flag on you here. First you need to back up your answer with facts about how student loans and their forgiveness directly enrich colleges. I am sure you can come up with bullet proof documentation... And secondly, let's pull the name of the kid's landscaping business and the town he is in. I will put money down that he got a PPP loan, and maybe two, since forgiven, that would be twice what i made during those two years. Tell me how that loan was more deserving please....

$800 Billion in the PPP boondoggle makes this look like well spent chump change. The #^&#^&#^&#^& people get crazy about and they conveniently forget when they benefitted from going to the well.....

are you drunk?

I didn't respond to you...I responded to Jim

I took out student loans and paid them off, I married someone who had student loans and we paid them off, I have two kids in college who have student loans and we will pay them off...

get over yourself tough guy....I never insulted you...

...I didn't even know you were here:hihi:

so weak,,,,,,,

I have friends in Canada, where college tuition runs <9K (in American $), everyone has health insurance & maternity leave lasts a year. Also, abortion is both legal & publicly funded.
Debt, nah, it’s less
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I have two kids in college who have student loans and we will pay them off...

Minus 10K each? because this could apply to their loans :cheers2:

i didn’t like PPP either, but that was done to save jobs that weren’t lost by anyone’s choice, they were lost because the government shut them down.

the government didn’t force anybody to take out any student loans.

why should a poor person struggling every month, bear the burden of someone making 250k who chose to take out loans? other then the fact that you like that you’re benefitting, what’s the logic?
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call back all you want.

government-backed loans are a huge boon to colleges. The college has absolutely zero risk because they get their money up front.

economics 101. cheap money makes prices higher.

this will make it way worse. kids will
assume future loans will
be transferred away from
them, so why not take out a stupid loan?

i don’t have documentation. it’s common sense. if students were forced to rely on savings, colleges would be forced to lower prices.

you can’t win this one with logic. because there isn’t any to support it. it’s a vote buying transfer of wealth that will benefit affluent people
far more than it will benefit poor people.

business owners were victims of ( it turns out) stupid state governments shutting down the economy. the business owners didn’t choose to shut down the economy
.

your kids chose to take out the loans. big, big difference.
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how would that be wayne?...is this going to be permanent for loans going forward into the future? are all future college students going to be able to count on brandon knocking 10 grand off their total? do the kids that continued to pay their loans during the time the loans were not being repaid over the last few years get a refund for being responsible?

Seems if they have a government loans from the programs listed .
why shouldn’t they qualify. That’s all.


And most who are qualified to get the 10k waved . Haven’t stopped paying their loans or suddenly going to stop paying what they owe.

Many have stopped paying the past and many will in the future . But that’s with any loan
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