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Raider Ronnie 06-07-2022 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227649)
If we fully tapped into the natural resources we are blessed with

We would be Russia and oil and gas production and price would be controlled by the Government .

Get Real Jim big oil has no desire to help Americans pay even a little less at the pump… and they refuse to pump more oil it’s called greed
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You should do some more research.
Refining is the issue.
They are not building more refineries & shutting some down because this socialist government is hell bent on green energy which is a bunch of bull.
Nothing green about lithium or electric energy.
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Jim in CT 06-07-2022 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227649)
If we fully tapped into the natural resources we are blessed with

We would be Russia and oil and gas production and price would be controlled by the Government .

Get Real Jim big oil has no desire to help Americans pay even a little less at the pump… and they refuse to pump more oil it’s called greed
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why haven’t prices always been this high? have fun answering that.
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wdmso 06-07-2022 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1227654)
why haven’t prices always been this high? have fun answering that.
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I know it’s Not because there’s a shortage of oil or gasoline. In the states . I know it’s not due to a shortage of gas and oil leases I also know demand has increased since the vaccine went on line . But it hasn’t increased more than pre covid ..

And I know in April 2020, benchmark West Texas Intermediate crude prices actually fell below $0

and I know No single person, aka POTUS or even government controls gas prices. And
Diesel is the biggest reason for overall inflation

And if I recall I said something to the effect that if Russia invaded oil will be at 150 a barrel and it’s heading that way
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The Dad Fisherman 06-08-2022 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227624)
People care more about $5 a gallon gas than they do about what happened on January 6.

How sad is that!


They think One POTUS is responsible for price of gas

Yet they don’t care the last one Tried to steal the election

It Just shows How clueless the avg America actually are,, on how the world works.

American exceptionalism hard at work I guess
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People are more concerned about what affects their day to day lives, they care about $5 a gallon gas and 10%+ inflation driving up the cost of every single thing they do in their everyday lives. They care more about shortages of baby formula. They care more about trying to keep their small businesses open. They care more about finding out a common sense way to curb gun violence.

All of this is more important than politicizing what a few hundred knuckleheads did 18 months ago.

it just shows how clueless some folks are about the average American

Shocking :rolleyes:

Pete F. 06-08-2022 05:16 AM

Weird that Fox News wouldn't cover the J6 hearing considering their viewers are the stars of the show.

Weirder that for the past year, they've accused antifa, BLM, false flag, tourists, FBI etc - you would think they'd want to expose that.

But just in time for the J6 hearings, the “largest-ever migrant caravan” appears.
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wdmso 06-08-2022 06:07 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61188579

Oil prices have soared. Why won't Opec bring them down?


Read the whole article Bidens not mentioned as the cause ?

But this was "When Russia invaded Ukraine, the price of crude soared"

Opec+ also has to respect Russia's wishes, since it is one of the two biggest partners in the alliance.

"The Russians are happy with prices at this level," says Carole Nakhle, CEO of Crystol Energy. "They have nothing to gain in seeing them go lower.

Not because their making money but because its causing discord in the US and the West

wdmso 06-08-2022 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1227656)
People are more concerned about what affects their day to day lives, they care about $5 a gallon gas and 10%+ inflation driving up the cost of every single thing they do in their everyday lives. They care more about shortages of baby formula. They care more about trying to keep their small businesses open. They care more about finding out a common sense way to curb gun violence.

All of this is more important than politicizing what a few hundred knuckleheads did 18 months ago.

it just shows how clueless some folks are about the average American

Shocking :rolleyes:


All of this is more important than politicizing what a few hundred knuckleheads did 18 months ago.

you really refuse to see Jan 6th for what it was .. it's amazing to see the level of denial and rationalisation of the event and its players .

For Some Americans ? when the price of gas concerns them more than People trying to Steal American Democracy We have become a Country's of individuals :kewl:


Classic:
the same people who claim it was a Just few hundred knuckleheads

Are the same people who think the Government controls the price of Oil control the production of baby formula , claim they care more about common sense gun laws

All while yelling less Government and demanding more Government in their next breath If National disaster impacts them or When they don't like the prices set by the private
sector

Yet these private companies and their lobbyist who have bought congress which has allowed them to set up Law in a manner that benefit them and their shareholder and not not the consumer

So let's use your baby formula outrage as an example

Yes, 4 companies control a majority of the infant formula industry in the US

Part of the reason why there is a baby formula shortage in the U.S. right now is because of how the industry is set up and regulated.

And don't forgot this reason

Joe Biden continues to put America LAST by shipping pallets of baby formula to the southern border as American families face empty shelves."
Claimed by: Elise Stefanik


And I bet Elise Stefanik the 3rd ranking republican in the House also thinks Jan 6th was what a few hundred knuckleheads also she's another one who has embraced lies and outrage equals Votes:kewl:

Because her constituents would not know the truth if it walked up to them and slapped them in the Face ... They live in a reality fashioned for them By the GOP. modeled after what the Russians do to their people to keep them in Line

The Dad Fisherman 06-08-2022 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227660)
All of this is more important than politicizing what a few hundred knuckleheads did 18 months ago.

you really refuse to see Jan 6th for what it was .. it's amazing to see the level of denial and rationalisation of the event and its players .

For Some Americans ? when the price of gas concerns them more than People trying to Steal American Democracy We have become a Country's of individuals :kewl:

People care more about their wallets at the supermarket, not what failed to happen 18 months ago, that's the reality of it

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227660)
Classic:
the same people who claim it was a Just few hundred knuckleheads

Are the same people who think the Government controls the price of Oil control the production of baby formula , claim they care more about common sense gun laws

Use the search feature and find a quote by me saying any of that

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227660)
All while yelling less Government and demanding more Government in their next breath If National disaster impacts them or When they don't like the prices set by the private
sector

and I'd love for you to find a quote from me asking for MORE Government

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227660)
Yet these private companies and their lobbyist who have bought congress which has allowed them to set up Law in a manner that benefit them and their shareholder and not not the consumer

Can you say "Term Limits"

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227660)
So let's use your baby formula outrage as an example

I never said i was outraged, I said it was one of the things people are concerned with more that the events of 18 months ago. That's your problem, you read things that were never said and interpret them incorrectly

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227660)
Yes, 4 companies control a majority of the infant formula industry in the US

Part of the reason why there is a baby formula shortage in the U.S. right now is because of how the industry is set up and regulated.

And don't forgot this reason

Sounds like too much Government

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227660)
Joe Biden continues to put America LAST by shipping pallets of baby formula to the southern border as American families face empty shelves."
Claimed by: Elise Stefanik

Didn't vote for her, don't give a #^&#^&#^&#^& what kind delusional political crap she wants to spew

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227660)
And I bet Elise Stefanik the 3rd ranking republican in the House also thinks Jan 6th was what a few hundred knuckleheads also she's another one who has embraced lies and outrage equals Votes:kewl:

Because her constituents would not know the truth if it walked up to them and slapped them in the Face ... They live in a reality fashioned for them By the GOP. modeled after what the Russians do to their people to keep them in Line

Sorry, if it nudges your tinfoil hat out of alignment, a few hundred knuckleheads is how i see it.

Got Stripers 06-08-2022 07:10 AM

You beat me to responding to that dribble Wayne. To suggest all Americans are worried about those things and for that reason we should somehow just move on from the 6th is typical of anyone tuned into the Fox NOTNEWS network.

As an American I'm very concerned that a few knuckleheads in a position of power attempted to cancel out millions of votes and by their actions and prodding got two radical organizations coordinating their efforts to overrun the Capitol and assist in the coup. The walk back on the right from the day of is just remarkable, but not surprising as a lot are just an echo chamber of what Fox NOTNEWS network spits out.

The real news networks will run the coverage, so that everyone can make up their own minds on how to interpret the evidence they put in front of America. Fox NOTNEWS would never run it because it doesn't fit their walk back narrative, but I guarantee they will be guns ablaze after each evening in defense.

Jim in CT 06-08-2022 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1227662)

As an American I'm very concerned that a few knuckleheads in a position of power attempted to cancel out millions of votes .

See, here's the problem with your statement there.

When Trump won in 2016, a small number of Congressional democrats (democrats in the house of representatives) did the same thing. They challenged the electoral results in states that Trump won, and even Joe Biden said at the time that they had absolutely zero reason to dispute anything. But they didn't like the outcome of the election, so they tried to overturn it. Biden, to his credit, told them to knock it off. Some of them are still in Congress.

And none of you cares. Not one of you has asked for them to be investigated or impeached.

So you only are concerned when Republicans do it. You're OK with it when democrats do it.

Got Stripers 06-08-2022 07:30 AM

Jim doing whataboutism that's a shocker......NOT

The Facts
In the 2016 presidential election, Trump won 304 electoral votes to Hillary Clinton's 227. During the joint session on January 6, 2017, seven House Democrats tried to object to electoral votes from multiple states.

According to a C-SPAN recording of the joint session that took place four years ago, the following House Democrats made objections:

Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) objected to Alabama's votes.
Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) objected to Florida's votes.
Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) objected to Georgia's votes.
Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) objected to North Carolina's votes.
Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) objected to the votes from North Carolina in addition to votes from South Carolina and Wisconsin. She also stood up and objected citing "massive voter suppression" after Mississippi's votes were announced.
Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) brought up allegations of Russian interference in the election and malfunctioning voting machines when she objected following the announcement of Michigan's votes.
Maxine Waters (D-Calif) rose and said, "I do not wish to debate. I wish to ask 'Is there one United States senator who will join me in this letter of objection?'" after the announcement of Wyoming's votes.
For an objection to be considered, it must be submitted in writing and signed by a member of both the House and Senate. Because no senators signed onto the objections made by House Democrats in 2017, then-Vice President Biden by law denied all of the objections, repeatedly saying "there is no debate."

The Dad Fisherman 06-08-2022 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1227662)
You beat me to responding to that dribble Wayne. To suggest all Americans are worried about those things and for that reason we should somehow just move on from the 6th is typical of anyone tuned into the Fox NOTNEWS network.

As an American I'm very concerned that a few knuckleheads in a position of power attempted to cancel out millions of votes and by their actions and prodding got two radical organizations coordinating their efforts to overrun the Capitol and assist in the coup. The walk back on the right from the day of is just remarkable, but not surprising as a lot are just an echo chamber of what Fox NOTNEWS network spits out.

The real news networks will run the coverage, so that everyone can make up their own minds on how to interpret the evidence they put in front of America. Fox NOTNEWS would never run it because it doesn't fit their walk back narrative, but I guarantee they will be guns ablaze after each evening in defense.

Never watched Fox News....ever.

Got Stripers 06-08-2022 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1227667)
Never watched Fox News....ever.

That's good, because even calling them NEWS is crazy.

Jim in CT 06-08-2022 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1227666)
Jim doing whataboutism that's a shocker......NOT

The Facts
In the 2016 presidential election, Trump won 304 electoral votes to Hillary Clinton's 227. During the joint session on January 6, 2017, seven House Democrats tried to object to electoral votes from multiple states.

According to a C-SPAN recording of the joint session that took place four years ago, the following House Democrats made objections:

Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) objected to Alabama's votes.
Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) objected to Florida's votes.
Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) objected to Georgia's votes.
Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) objected to North Carolina's votes.
Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) objected to the votes from North Carolina in addition to votes from South Carolina and Wisconsin. She also stood up and objected citing "massive voter suppression" after Mississippi's votes were announced.
Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) brought up allegations of Russian interference in the election and malfunctioning voting machines when she objected following the announcement of Michigan's votes.
Maxine Waters (D-Calif) rose and said, "I do not wish to debate. I wish to ask 'Is there one United States senator who will join me in this letter of objection?'" after the announcement of Wyoming's votes.
For an objection to be considered, it must be submitted in writing and signed by a member of both the House and Senate. Because no senators signed onto the objections made by House Democrats in 2017, then-Vice President Biden by law denied all of the objections, repeatedly saying "there is no debate."

I said ":a small number of Congressional democrats", and you basically provided support that I was right.

Every single time you guys get caught in naked hypocrisy, you try to dismiss it as "whataboutism".

Why was it OK what the democrats did, and not what happened on January 6?

Those congressional democrats you listed...did they, or did they not, try to un-do the results of an election they didn't happen to like?

you’ve all created a world where you can engage in as much hypocrisy as you can possibly cram into a day. And every time someone calls you out on it, you dismiss it as what about-ism.

That’s very very convenient for you all. And one reason why you’re about to get taken out to the woodshed in a few months.

Got Stripers 06-08-2022 08:06 AM

Jim can't your read, it wasn't put in writing, it went nowhere and NOBODY committed a felony. Let's see how that plays out for your red team, oh wait there already are convictions and it's only going to get worse.

Jim in CT 06-08-2022 08:07 AM

here’s a sincere question to the democrats…you’d prefer if the GOP nominee in 2024 is Desantis to Trump? If I was a democrat, i’d rather Trump be the nominee. But i’m guessing you’d all rather that Desantis be the nominee.
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Jim in CT 06-08-2022 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers;1it went n227670
Jim can't your read, it wasn't put in writing, owhere and NOBODY committed a felony. Let's see how that plays out for your red team, oh wait there already are convictions and it's only going to get worse.

"it wasn't put in writing"

So it's OK to act to overturn a free election, as long as you don't write anything down.

Can't argue with that...

"it went nowhere"

How far did the coup attempt on January 6th go? How close did they come? Did they get congress discussing it, like the democrats did it 2016? You're acting like Trump was just ready to get sworn in again, and at the last second Jack Bauer came on from a helicopter and put a stop to it with a kabar knife in his teeth.

"there already are convictions and it's only going to get worse"

I have no problem with convicting everyone who committed an actual crime. I apply that to the idiots on January 6th, , as well as BLM rioters, who got a pass for being FAR more violent than anything that happened on January 6th. Because as always, it's OK when liberals riot and burn. People couldn't go to church, but they could participate in BLM riots.

I can't wait to se how it plays out. Because no one will care come November if they're paying $6 a gallon for gas, and a used Toyota Corolla costs $30,000. and the stock market is down so parents can't afford tuition payments in the fall. If those things happen (likley), no one will give a darn about January 6th except radical, radical lefties who are deranged with TDS.

Come November, we'll see how many Americans care more January 6, we'll see whether you or I is the one way out of touch with regular Americans.

You guys, your obsession with Trump makes John Hinkley's feelings towards Jodie Foster look like a casual interest.

Got Stripers 06-08-2022 09:07 AM

I have no doubt November will be bad, it’s historically always payback time for either party. Biden probably will pay for #^&#^&#^&#^& he can’t control and yes to your question; love to see Trump get best twice.
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Jim in CT 06-08-2022 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1227675)
I have no doubt November will be bad, it’s historically always payback time for either party. Biden probably will pay for #^&#^&#^&#^& he can’t control and yes to your question; love to see Trump get best twice.
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Biden and Trump contributed heavily to inflation. they printed trillions and trillions.

When you drastically increase the supply of something, there’s a serious risk of decreasing the value of that something. Even if that something is money.

the fact that the lefts reapinsento spring gas prices is to buy electric cars, suggests they want soaring gas prices to get the green energy revolution they want. The fact that sea rent anywhere near ready for everyone to drive electric cars, doesn’t factor into it for some reason.
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Jim in CT 06-08-2022 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1227675)
I have no doubt November will be bad, it’s historically always payback time for either party. Biden probably will pay for #^&#^&#^&#^& he can’t control and yes to your question; love to see Trump get best twice.
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he also is responsible for appointing a treasury secretary who wouldn’t be able to get a job as a bank teller in the private sector.
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The Dad Fisherman 06-08-2022 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1227677)
he also is responsible for appointing a treasury secretary who wouldn’t be able to get a job as a bank teller in the private sector.
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And a "Women" to Health Secretary who needs an annual prostate Exam :hihi:

Jim in CT 06-08-2022 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1227678)
And a "Women" to Health Secretary who needs an annual prostate Exam :hihi:

that was absurd.
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spence 06-08-2022 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1227679)
that was absurd.
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Why Jim?

Jim in CT 06-08-2022 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1227693)
Why Jim?

because all the left cares about is appearance.

and when Ted Cruz asked him/her 15 times his position on carving up children, they refused to answer. that’s not a serious person, but the optics make the left feel
good,, and that’s what matters.

How many letters and symbols will there be in that lbgtq string?
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spence 06-08-2022 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1227701)
because all the left cares about is appearance.

and when Ted Cruz asked him/her 15 times his position on carving up children, they refused to answer. that’s not a serious person, but the optics make the left feel
good,, and that’s what matters.

How many letters and symbols will there be in that lbgtq string?
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So she’s not qualified because she is trans? That’s rich.

Jim in CT 06-08-2022 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1227704)
So she’s not qualified because she is trans? That’s rich.

she’s not qualified because she refused to answer a very, very simple question.

andy i’d like to see you let that doctor give a physical
to one of your kids.
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Pete F. 06-08-2022 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1227704)
So she’s not qualified because she is trans? That’s rich.

Not qualified because not a white heterosexual Christian male.
Though sometimes a woman can be qualified if she espouses the correct view “A legal career is but a means to an end and that end is building the Kingdom of God”
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Jim in CT 06-09-2022 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227708)
Not qualified because not a white heterosexual Christian male.
Though sometimes a woman can be qualified if she espouses the correct view “A legal career is but a means to an end and that end is building the Kingdom of God”
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reading not your thing, eh?

not qualified because she refused to answer very simple questions. Means you’re not qualified.

“vote for me, and only then will i reveal my opinion on mutilating children to make me feel better about myself.”

I Can’t wait until november. You?
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wdmso 06-09-2022 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1227704)
So she’s not qualified because she is trans? That’s rich.

Sometimes the Truth slips out! And How they truly see the world and others get exposed

Then they go into damage control using Ted Cruz or Ran Paul
Who likening transition surgery to "genital mutilation" while questioning Dr. Rachel Levine, a trans woman, at her confirmation hearing.

great Statesman
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Jim in CT 06-09-2022 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227718)
Sometimes the Truth slips out! And How they truly see the world and others get exposed

Then they go into damage control using Ted Cruz or Ran Paul
Who likening transition surgery to "genital mutilation" while questioning Dr. Rachel Levine, a trans woman, at her confirmation hearing.

great Statesman
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read my response above please...

When you claim I said something that I never said, that means I won.

If transition surgery is so benign, why didn't the doctor just say that? Whey didn't she respond by saying "it's a benign surgery with benefits, so yes I support it."

She was pure window dressing.

Pete F. 06-09-2022 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1227719)
read my response above please...

When you claim I said something that I never said, that means I won.

If transition surgery is so benign, why didn't the doctor just say that? Whey didn't she respond by saying "it's a benign surgery with benefits, so yes I support it."

She was pure window dressing.

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
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Jim in CT 06-10-2022 11:19 AM

the senator from michigan, the tone deaf witch, her solution for high gas prices is to not be poor and buy an electric vehicle.

It’s that simple.
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Pete F. 06-10-2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1227772)
the senator from michigan, the tone deaf witch, her solution for high gas prices is to not be poor and buy an electric vehicle.

It’s that simple.
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Definitely not a misogynist, are you?

Did you miss the part of supply and demand where reduction in demand decreases prices?
The equation is not all or nothing.
Price-elasticity of demand for gasoline is real
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Jim in CT 06-10-2022 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227773)
Definitely not a misogynist, are you?

Did you miss the part of supply and demand where reduction in demand decreases prices?
The equation is not all or nothing.
Price-elasticity of demand for gasoline is real
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problems with your “logic”.

most people can’t afford electric cars

if they could afford them, there aren’t enough available

If there were enough available, there aren’t enough charging stations

If there were enough charging stations, there’s nowhere near enough electricity. you in favor of building dozens of nuclear power plants? or are we all supposed to rub balloons on our heads 24 hours a day?

Other than that, you’ve got some sound logic there.

global demand for fossil fuels is decades away from decreasing. decades. Doesn’t mean we don’t keep trying, doesn’t mean we don’t keep investing. But it would be nice if the people running the country could put reality ahead of ideological
pipe dreams.

my homes roof is covered with solar panels. we’re facing south and have no trees near the house as tall as the roof, so we get a ton of direct sunlight. it still only generates a portion of what we use in a year, and that’s without having to power two vehicles ( soon to be 3 as junior turns 16).

We’re decades away from renewables making a big dent in demand. it does us zero good, and causes a ton of harm, to pretend otherwise.
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Pete F. 06-10-2022 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1227776)
problems with your “logic”.

most people can’t afford electric cars

if they could afford them, there aren’t enough available

If there were enough available, there aren’t enough charging stations

If there were enough charging stations, there’s nowhere near enough electricity. you in favor of building dozens of nuclear power plants? or are we all supposed to rub balloons on our heads 24 hours a day?

Other than that, you’ve got some sound logic there.

global demand for fossil fuels is decades away from decreasing. decades. Doesn’t mean we don’t keep trying, doesn’t mean we don’t keep investing. But it would be nice if the people running the country could put reality ahead of ideological
pipe dreams.

my homes roof is covered with solar panels. we’re facing south and have no trees near the house as tall as the roof, so we get a ton of direct sunlight. it still only generates a portion of what we use in a year, and that’s without having to power two vehicles ( soon to be 3 as junior turns 16).

We’re decades away from renewables making a big dent in demand. it does us zero good, and causes a ton of harm, to pretend otherwise.
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Sure, nothing will ever replace burning wood, coal, coal gas, kerosene lamps, iceboxes, landlines, adding machines, typewriters, film, phone booths, iPods, blackberries, alarm clocks and fax machines
Never happen
Wonder where Kodak and Sears went?
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Jim in CT 06-10-2022 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227781)
Sure, nothing will ever replace burning wood, coal, coal gas, kerosene lamps, iceboxes, landlines, adding machines, typewriters, film, phone booths, iPods, blackberries, alarm clocks and fax machines
Never happen
Wonder where Kodak and Sears went?
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i didn’t come close to saying change isn’t coming. i said it’s decades away.

I completely bitchslapped you, so you responded to something i never came close to saying.

the old isn’t replaced with the new, until the new is practical and ready to replace the old. Wind/solar aren’t even close to being ready. It’s not close.

I don’t say that because i like saying it. I say it, because it’s obviously true.

there’s a reason why the price of Exxon Mobil and Chevron are soaring right now. Because people
who are objective about such things, know the demand for fossil
fuels isn’t going away soon.

Every incentive inagineable exists to replace fossil fuels with renewables. Whoever gets there first will be worth hundreds of billions of dollars.

We can’t do it yet, not for awhile.
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Pete F. 06-10-2022 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1227776)
problems with your “logic”.

most people can’t afford electric cars

if they could afford them, there aren’t enough available

If there were enough available, there aren’t enough charging stations

If there were enough charging stations, there’s nowhere near enough electricity. you in favor of building dozens of nuclear power plants? or are we all supposed to rub balloons on our heads 24 hours a day?

Other than that, you’ve got some sound logic there.

global demand for fossil fuels is decades away from decreasing. decades. Doesn’t mean we don’t keep trying, doesn’t mean we don’t keep investing. But it would be nice if the people running the country could put reality ahead of ideological
pipe dreams.

my homes roof is covered with solar panels. we’re facing south and have no trees near the house as tall as the roof, so we get a ton of direct sunlight. it still only generates a portion of what we use in a year, and that’s without having to power two vehicles ( soon to be 3 as junior turns 16).

We’re decades away from renewables making a big dent in demand. it does us zero good, and causes a ton of harm, to pretend otherwise.
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Electric vehicles increase 100% year to year and just a few years ago nobody would believe that every home would have a computer, yet look at what you hold in your hand, that’s even pretty capable of translating speech to text.

I think we have a better chance of Kurzweil’s law of accelerating returns being true than your Luddite view of the world we live in.
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wdmso 06-10-2022 03:20 PM

Because people
who are objective about such things, know the demand for fossil
fuels isn’t going away soon.

The only people suggesting oil is going away are conservatives and the the GOP. To rally their mindless followers
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Jim in CT 06-10-2022 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227785)
Because people
who are objective about such things, know the demand for fossil
fuels isn’t going away soon.

The only people suggesting oil is going away are conservatives and the the GOP. To rally their mindless followers
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democrats are saying the response to high gas prices, is to buy an electric car. In a few months, we get to tell Pudding Brain what we think of that

Biden is saying no need to worry, because “core inflation” is stabilizing. Core inflation. excludes food and energy. So as long as you don’t eat or drive, all is swell.

I cannot wait until november. I already took a vacation day, the day after the election, so i can stay up all night drinking and watching msnbc and cnn.
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Pete F. 06-10-2022 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1227794)
democrats are saying the response to high gas prices, is to buy an electric car. In a few months, we get to tell Pudding Brain what we think of that

Biden is saying no need to worry, because “core inflation” is stabilizing. Core inflation. excludes food and energy. So as long as you don’t eat or drive, all is swell.

I cannot wait until november. I already took a vacation day, the day after the election, so i can stay up all night drinking and watching msnbc and cnn.
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You can start watching now, but you really need to quit drinking

An important stat, in total viewership:

Hillary at Benghazi hearing: 4M viewers

Night one of 1/6 hearing: 20M viewers

It’ll get better
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