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Pete F. 12-04-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1218775)
Georgia’s unemployment is the lowest in the history of the state. ever. GA was one of the first, maybe the first, states to open up during the pandemic.

i thought the republican governor was crazy at the time to open up. looks like he was right and i was wrong. show me any democrats who would say he made the right call.
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67% of the covid deaths in the past 5 months came from the 20 lowest vaxxed states & FL & TX

South African scientists report that the areas with the greatest % of unvaccinated & the most prior Deltq infection are getting hit hardest.

We have an area like that. It’s called Florida. It’s the South. It’s many red states around the country.

The strategy— most closely associated with Scott Atlas, formerly of the Trump White House—called “natural herd immunity” is prevailing wisdom in areas that voted for Donald Trump or who listen to some of their political leaders.

That strategy was already costly on its face. 65% of Republican adults are vaccinated compared to 90% of Democrats.

And new data shows that has led to a 50% higher death rate in Republican states.

Getting infected and letting COVID run wild isn’t particularly smart for other reasons. I mean other than just that it kills people.

The more spread, the more chances for a virus to mutate. The more mutations, the more chance of a variant of concern.

This strategy of playing with fire by not getting vaccinated & then getting COVID has kept case counts & deaths high.

But now it turns out that the 10s of millions of people who thought they had immunity aren’t immune, many who didn’t really want COVID. That’s bad news.
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Jim in CT 12-04-2021 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1218778)
i think it’s interesting that in both the presidential election and in both GA senate races, the gop was looking good until the nation was asleep, and then poof.

She's like Trump, a sore loser who can't admit she lost fair and square, and someone capable of telling dangerous, obvious lies.

you never disappoint ..
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what did i say that’s not true?

you’re a rabid, rabid partisan. i’ll listen to the GA secretary of state who says both she and trump are lying when they say there was anything wrong with the elections. that’s a guy who can tell the truth regardless of party. you cannot.

that’s a guy with a demonstrated ability to criticize either side. you are completely unable to do that. so he has way more credibility.


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Jim in CT 12-04-2021 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1218779)
67% of the covid deaths in the past 5 months came from the 20 lowest vaxxed states & FL & TX

South African scientists report that the areas with the greatest % of unvaccinated & the most prior Deltq infection are getting hit hardest.

We have an area like that. It’s called Florida. It’s the South. It’s many red states around the country.

The strategy— most closely associated with Scott Atlas, formerly of the Trump White House—called “natural herd immunity” is prevailing wisdom in areas that voted for Donald Trump or who listen to some of their political leaders.

That strategy was already costly on its face. 65% of Republican adults are vaccinated compared to 90% of Democrats.

And new data shows that has led to a 50% higher death rate in Republican states.

Getting infected and letting COVID run wild isn’t particularly smart for other reasons. I mean other than just that it kills people.

The more spread, the more chances for a virus to mutate. The more mutations, the more chance of a variant of concern.

This strategy of playing with fire by not getting vaccinated & then getting COVID has kept case counts & deaths high.

But now it turns out that the 10s of millions of people who thought they had immunity aren’t immune, many who didn’t really want COVID. That’s bad news.
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you picked a 5 month window when people inthe north are outside, and people in Florida are staying inside. gee i wonder why you picked that particular window? Florida’s case counts are way, way down now that people are outside. let’s ignore that.

“if you look at florida’s worst single day, and compare it to Mew York’s best single day, Florida is way worse!”

keep cherry picking, Pete.
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wdmso 12-04-2021 09:54 AM

National unemployment is 4.2 percent GA is 3.2. ATLANTA The unemployment rate can be at a record low even though the aggregate number of workers is not at a record high because the overall labor force has shrunk during the pandemic. The DoL said the total labor force remains down by 37,000 since the start of the pandemic.

In September, Georgia said more than 7,700 workers found jobs while 6,000 dropped out of the labor force, resulting in a nearly 14,000 decrease in the number of residents officially considered unemployed.




Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel is slamming President Joe Biden over the latest jobs report.
In a Friday tweet, McDaniel wrote: "350,000 FEWER jobs were created last month than expected. Biden’s big government socialism doesn’t work!" Yet ignore the National 4.2 rate. Oh I forgot that’s Republican Governors doing. LOL. Republicans expecting a bill recently signed hasn’t worked LOL

Don’t believe those phony numbers,” Trump declared during his victory speech after the New Hampshire primary, in February. “When you hear 4.9 and five-per-cent unemployment, the number’s probably twenty-eight, twenty-nine, as high as thirty-five—in fact, I even heard recently forty-two per cent.” By June, when he did an interview on Fox News’s “Justice with Judge Jeanine,” he’d received new data. “The number five per cent is a phony number—it’s really twenty per cent, close to twenty-per-cent unemployment. That’s just a phony number to make the politicians look good.” In an August speech on the economy, he said, in reference to the official government unemployment rate, “The five-per-cent figure is one of the biggest hoaxes in American modern politics.”

What’s Funny GA uses the same method the US government uses to calculate the un employment Rate

Yet now Republicans believe the numbers in GA not the US Governments numbers classic bait and switch to the uninformed voter

I am sure the families of the 30k who have died in GA are so happy they opened early so their unemployment could be 3.2 % …
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Raider Ronnie 12-04-2021 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1218777)
Hope Renolds Aluminum foil doesn’t run out of stock for you RR.



Let me guess
You drive around in your car alone wearing your mask & a face shield
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Jim in CT 12-04-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1218784)
National unemployment is 4.2 percent GA is 3.2. ATLANTA The unemployment rate can be at a record low even though the aggregate number of workers is not at a record high because the overall labor force has shrunk during the pandemic. The DoL said the total labor force remains down by 37,000 since the start of the pandemic.

In September, Georgia said more than 7,700 workers found jobs while 6,000 dropped out of the labor force, resulting in a nearly 14,000 decrease in the number of residents officially considered unemployed.




Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel is slamming President Joe Biden over the latest jobs report.
In a Friday tweet, McDaniel wrote: "350,000 FEWER jobs were created last month than expected. Biden’s big government socialism doesn’t work!" Yet ignore the National 4.2 rate. Oh I forgot that’s Republican Governors doing. LOL. Republicans expecting a bill recently signed hasn’t worked LOL

Don’t believe those phony numbers,” Trump declared during his victory speech after the New Hampshire primary, in February. “When you hear 4.9 and five-per-cent unemployment, the number’s probably twenty-eight, twenty-nine, as high as thirty-five—in fact, I even heard recently forty-two per cent.” By June, when he did an interview on Fox News’s “Justice with Judge Jeanine,” he’d received new data. “The number five per cent is a phony number—it’s really twenty per cent, close to twenty-per-cent unemployment. That’s just a phony number to make the politicians look good.” In an August speech on the economy, he said, in reference to the official government unemployment rate, “The five-per-cent figure is one of the biggest hoaxes in American modern politics.”

What’s Funny GA uses the same method the US government uses to calculate the un employment Rate

Yet now Republicans believe the numbers in GA not the US Governments numbers classic bait and switch to the uninformed voter

I am sure the families of the 30k who have died in GA are so happy they opened early so their unemployment could be 3.2 % …
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you’re dismissing GAs low unemployment. do you feel
the same way about federal unemployment?

i said here that i’m glad federal unemployment is as low as it is. and biden deserves some credit for that. But the jobs number was lousy, and biden deserves some blame for that

^ that there is what honesty looks like. credit where it’s due, criticism where it’s due.


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Pete F. 12-04-2021 11:36 AM

One has to realize that Georgians might not be very bright.

Here’s a statement from the head of Gang Greene
“Every single year more than 600,000 people in the US die from cancer.

The country has never once shut down.

Not a single school has closed.

And every year, over 600,000 people, of all ages and all races will continue to die from cancer.”
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scottw 12-04-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1218789)

One has to realize that Georgians might not be very bright.

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yeah but can they cut and paste?

Jim in CT 12-04-2021 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1218789)
One has to realize that Georgians might not be very bright.


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their unemployment is meaningfully lower than the national
average.

GA has very low taxes, and yet they’ve created a quality of life good enough to make tons of people want to move there.

CT has insanely high taxes, and they’ve created a failing, dying sh*thole that people are fleeing.

you’d say CT is smarter. because you are blind.
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Jim in CT 12-04-2021 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1218790)
yeah but can they cut and paste?

gotta be wicked smaht to do that.
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PaulS 12-04-2021 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1218791)
their unemployment is meaningfully lower than the national
average.

GA has very low taxes, and yet they’ve created a quality of life good enough to make tons of people want to move there.

CT has insanely high taxes, and they’ve created a failing, dying sh*thole that people are fleeing.

you’d say CT is smarter. because you are blind.
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You're a one-trick angry person. All you care about is taxes. Where are the most highly educated highly paid people? If you think that's your idea of a s******* you need to look in the mirror
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wdmso 12-04-2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1218786)
you’re dismissing GAs low unemployment. do you feel
the same way about federal unemployment?

i said here that i’m glad federal unemployment is as low as it is. and biden deserves some credit for that. But the jobs number was lousy, and biden deserves some blame for that

^ that there is what honesty looks like. credit where it’s due, criticism where it’s due.


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jim I posted who dismisses unemployment numbers as a matter of convenience that’s all

And 3% is very good for People in GA

Republicans have a habit of suggesting all good numbers are fake unless their in office. Then they are spot on.. because they are intellectually dishonest most of the time

Just like how Republicans Gaslight The American People on Infrastructure Deal or how Republicans who voted for Biden's infrastructure bill come under fire from Trump And death threats

America 1st is just a slogan
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Jim in CT 12-04-2021 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1218794)
jim I posted who dismisses unemployment numbers as a matter of convenience that’s all

And 3% is very good for People in GA

Republicans have a habit of suggesting all good numbers are fake unless their in office. Then they are spot on.. because they are intellectually dishonest most of the time

Just like how Republicans Gaslight The American People on Infrastructure Deal or how yRepublicans who voted for Biden's infrastructure bill come under fire from Trump And death threats

America 1st is just a slogan
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low unemployment is always dismissed by the opposition party. it’s sleazy and dishonest, like being concerned about debt only when you’re not in power

both sides do it.
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spence 12-04-2021 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1218791)
CT has insanely high taxes, and they’ve created a failing, dying sh*thole that people are fleeing.
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Actually according to the 2020 census CT’s population has increased in the past 10 years. Quality of life ranks pretty high.

scottw 12-04-2021 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1218797)
Actually according to the 2020 census CT’s population has increased in the past 10 years. Quality of life ranks pretty high.


CONNECTICUT: 2020 Censushttps://www.census.gov › library › stories › state-by-state
Aug 25, 2021 — Of the 47 U.S. states that gained population from 2010 to 2020, the Constitution State's 0.9% growth to 3605944 million was the slowest.

Pete F. 12-04-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1218791)
their unemployment is meaningfully lower than the national
average.

GA has very low taxes, and yet they’ve created a quality of life good enough to make tons of people want to move there.

CT has insanely high taxes, and they’ve created a failing, dying sh*thole that people are fleeing.

you’d say CT is smarter. because you are blind.
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None of what you wrote has anything to do with what I posted about the fool they elected and then you, using your magical powers claim to know what I would say.
Fabricating and lying is what all your beliefs seem to be based on
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PaulS 12-04-2021 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1218799)
CONNECTICUT: 2020 Censushttps://www.census.gov › library › stories › state-by-state
Aug 25, 2021 — Of the 47 U.S. states that gained population from 2010 to 2020, the Constitution State's 0.9% growth to 3605944 million was the slowest.

Windham, Tolland and Middlesex counties are all solidly Republican and those Counties have all shrunk. I think the county that is shown population growth is Fairfield County . They also lag in income and there is a transfer of money from the Richer democratic counties to the poor Republican ones. Sound familiar as it's similar to what happens in the country as a whole.
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scottw 12-04-2021 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1218801)
Windham, Tolland and Middlesex counties are all solidly Republican and those Counties have all shrunk. I think the county that is shown population growth is Fairfield County . They also lag in income and there is a transfer of money from the Richer democratic counties to the poor Republican ones. Sound familiar as it's similar to what happens in the country as a whole.
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you'd think the poor republicans in the poor republican counties would be too poor and dependent the rich democrats to leave...how else could they exist? oohhh ...maybe they are all dying from covid?

Got Stripers 12-04-2021 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1218785)
Let me guess
You drive around in your car alone wearing your mask & a face shield
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Actually I think people wearing masks in their cars or out walking are as stupid as anyone still believing the election was stolen.

spence 12-04-2021 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1218793)
You're a one-trick angry person. All you care about is taxes.

Wait...wait...he also cares about abortion and black unemployment. Oh, and his obsession with the Squad.

scottw 12-04-2021 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1218793)

You're

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good to see some of you making progress on this...

Jim in CT 12-04-2021 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1218801)
Windham, Tolland and Middlesex counties are all solidly Republican and those Counties have all shrunk. I think the county that is shown population growth is Fairfield County . They also lag in income and there is a transfer of money from the Richer democratic counties to the poor Republican ones. Sound familiar as it's similar to what happens in the country as a whole.
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fairfield county lags in income? westport, new canaan, greenwich?
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Jim in CT 12-04-2021 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1218797)
Actually according to the 2020 census CT’s population has increased in the past 10 years. Quality of life ranks pretty high.

it cranks very high if you can afford it, or if you ignore cost.
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Jim in CT 12-04-2021 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1218797)
Actually according to the 2020 census CT’s population has increased in the past 10 years. Quality of life ranks pretty high.

hartford courant says it’s shrinking over time ( decade in census showed a tiny increase.). . and we’re down a congressional
seat.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cou...outputType=amp
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Jim in CT 12-04-2021 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1218793)
You're a one-trick angry person. All you care about is taxes. Where are the most highly educated highly paid people? If you think that's your idea of a s******* you need to look in the mirror
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all i care about s taxes, yup.

i don’t deny Ct has a high education level. i’m just bit convinced that means what you think it means. we’re bankrupt paul. unfunded debt is over $50k per taxpayer. what happens when that’s due? any opinions?

very educated people applied high taxes to high incomes, then took billions from the casinos, and then spent zillions more than the tons of
money they had. if that’s what elite education gets you, i’m glad i went to uconn.

now we have legal
sports betting and legal
pot. hooray!!!
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Jim in CT 12-04-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1218805)
Wait...wait...he also cares about abortion and black unemployment. Oh, and his obsession with the Squad.

liberals don’t care about abortion! that’s why none of them are getting worked up about the SCOTUS case.
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Pete F. 12-05-2021 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1218817)
liberals don’t care about abortion! that’s why none of them are getting worked up about the SCOTUS case.
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Trumplicans would do anything to overturn Roe, using their typically variable belief in integrity.

“To follow her own 1998 law review article, Barrett should have recused herself from this case (indeed, all abortion cases) if she has any integrity at all.” But that’s a huge “if,” especially because her recusal would give Roberts the controlling vote!

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciar...use-herself-in
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Jim in CT 12-05-2021 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1218837)
Trumplicans would do anything to overturn Roe, using their typically variable belief in integrity.

“To follow her own 1998 law review article, Barrett should have recused herself from this case (indeed, all abortion cases) if she has any integrity at all.” But that’s a huge “if,” especially because her recusal would give Roberts the controlling vote!

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciar...use-herself-in
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why should barrett have recused herself?
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Jim in CT 12-05-2021 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1218837)
Trumplicans would do anything to overturn Roe, using their typically variable belief in integrity.

“To follow her own 1998 law review article, Barrett should have recused herself from this case (indeed, all abortion cases) if she has any integrity at all.” But that’s a huge “if,” especially because her recusal would give Roberts the controlling vote!

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciar...use-herself-in
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did you read that article? Barrett said that IF a catholic judge cannot put aside their catholicism in order to decide a case based on the law, then they must revise themselves. where is the evidence that Barrett cannot decide a case based on the law?

Barrett said in her conformation hearings, that she often decided cars in ways that resulted in an outcome that she didn’t like, but which was what the law required. that’s fine.

all judges have personal
opinions they are supposed to set aside. whether those opinions are formed from their parents, teachers, or religion, they must be put aside when deciding cases. a religiously-informed conscience is no more problematic for a judge than a conscience formed by what the judge was taught in school.

you sound like a religious bigot. there’s no rule that says only atheists can be good judges. if barrett supported a law that requires people to get communion on sunday’s, that would imply she’s putting her faith above the law. i know if no complaints that. suggest she puts her personal beliefs above the law.

another baseless argument, what a stupid article.
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Pete F. 12-05-2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1218845)
did you read that article? Barrett said that IF a catholic judge cannot put aside their catholicism in order to decide a case based on the law, then they must revise themselves. where is the evidence that Barrett cannot decide a case based on the law?

Barrett said in her conformation hearings, that she often decided cars in ways that resulted in an outcome that she didn’t like, but which was what the law required. that’s fine.

all judges have personal
opinions they are supposed to set aside. whether those opinions are formed from their parents, teachers, or religion, they must be put aside when deciding cases. a religiously-informed conscience is no more problematic for a judge than a conscience formed by what the judge was taught in school.

you sound like a religious bigot. there’s no rule that says only atheists can be good judges. if barrett supported a law that requires people to get communion on sunday’s, that would imply she’s putting her faith above the law. i know if no complaints that. suggest she puts her personal beliefs above the law.

another baseless argument, what a stupid article.
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She wrote the opinion that said

Barrett writes, “A judge who suspends his moral judgment during sentencing sets his conscience aside” and “cuts himself loose from his moral moorings.” That unloosing is itself a sin, she concludes — analogous to “looking lustfully at a woman” and thus committing adultery “in his thoughts.”
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Jim in CT 12-05-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1218849)
She wrote the opinion that said

Barrett writes, “A judge who suspends his moral judgment during sentencing sets his conscience aside” and “cuts himself loose from his moral moorings.” That unloosing is itself a sin, she concludes — analogous to “looking lustfully at a woman” and thus committing adultery “in his thoughts.”
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she also said a judge must revise if they’re unable to separate their religious beliefs from what the law says. she didn’t say all
catholics must recuse themselves.

a person whose personal
morals are derived from catholic teaching, is no less qualified to be a judge than a person whose moral
compass was informed
by what they were taught in college or by their parents. as long as a judge can set personal opinions aside when ruling, they’re fine. if a judge cannot out personal morals aside ( whether they are catholic morals or
liberal morals), that’s a bad judge.

there’s nothing unique about catholicism that makes one a bad judge. nothing.
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Pete F. 12-05-2021 01:00 PM

According to the dark money that put her there, she was appointed to end abortion.
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Jim in CT 12-05-2021 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1218856)
According to the dark money that put her there, she was appointed to end abortion.
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she’s superbly qualified to be a judge, way more so than sotomayor who was unanimously overturned by the supreme court on multiple
occasions ( meaning Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Antonio Scalia and everyone i. between, all agreed Sotomayor was wrong in the law).

there are plenty of non-catholic reasons to want it overturned. “search and seizure” is a very questionable way to conclude abortion is something for the feds to declare constitutional. search and seizure had to do with making sure the state has cause and a warrant before they attempt
to search you or your property. kind of a big legal
leap from
there to abortion.

there are plenty of
non catholics who think it should
be overturned.

even if it gets overturned ( zero chance in my opinion), that doesn’t mean abortion is illegal. it means states get to decide. there are plenty of blue states that will never outlaw it, so worst case scenario is women have to get to a blue state to get one.
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Pete F. 12-05-2021 01:13 PM

Safe abortion has always been available to rich people,
It wasn’t the wealthy dying of sepsis even before Roe
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Jim in CT 12-05-2021 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1218860)
Safe abortion has always been available to rich people,
It wasn’t the wealthy dying of sepsis even before Roe
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the wealthy always have better healthcare, that’s not limited to
abortion. it’s not an abortion issue.

defending abortion by saying people
will die during back room abortions, doesn’t work.

people get killed robbing banks, too. the solution, isn’t to legalize bank robbery. so spare me that stupidity.

i pay attention to these things. the pro abortion crowd never strays from talking about the convenience and benefits to the mother of abortion. they never talk about the baby’s point of view, never talk about adoption. Never. Because those facets of this issue, make your side look, well, bad.
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Pete F. 12-05-2021 03:37 PM

Life is so simple in your world.
It turns out that George Carlin was right, women are just brood mares for the state, or are they as one politician said this week, vessels.

Have you ever known a woman who carried a baby to term and then gave it up for adoption?
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Jim in CT 12-05-2021 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1218866)
Life is so simple in your world.
It turns out that George Carlin was right, women are just brood mares for the state, or are they as one politician said this week, vessels.

Have you ever known a woman who carried a baby to term and then gave it up for adoption?
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i didn’t say simple.

but it’s a fact. you and i both agree thar women can choose what to do with their bodies, as long as someone else doesn’t get hurt. i see the baby as someone else. you don’t.

that’s the only difference we have on this issue. you’re not more pro choice than i am, or more pro woman than i am. the only distinction, is that you see the baby as nothing more than a lifeless clump. when i look at a high def ultrasound, i think i see a human being.

that explains 100% of our difference on that issue, yet the left spends 99% of its energy trying to avoid that discussion, because obviously it’s hard to demonize me for having empathy for an unborn baby.
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Jim in CT 12-05-2021 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1218866)
Life is so simple in your world.
It turns out that George Carlin was right, women are just brood mares for the state, or are they as one politician said this week, vessels.

Have you ever known a woman who carried a baby to term and then gave it up for adoption?
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“women are just brood
mares.”

there you go again, losing the debate so claiming i said something i never said.

i don’t think women have the right to
murder babies, and i consider that a human baby.

why are so many millions of women opposed to abortion? they’re all self
loathing masochists? all
of them? amy barrett is an idiot who advocates for her own enslavement?

i know one woman ( she was only 18) who carried a baby to term and gave it up for adoption. i don’t know why it’s relevant whether or
not i know someone who did so, but i do. carrying a baby to delivery isn’t trivial, but it’s not a huge deal for
most healthy women, either. it’s a whole lot less permanently invasive for the mom, than an abortion is for
the baby, that’s for sure.

my brother and sister in law also adopted three kids from russia. they couldnt have kids, so they adopted three.
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Got Stripers 12-05-2021 03:56 PM

Jim I’m curious if your daughter or a family members daughter is raped by the evil uncle or a first date gone horribly wrong, is it your belief she should be forced to carry to term? So your daughter or a close friends gets married and in her first pregnancy, it’s determined there is a high likelihood the baby with serious abnormalities and irreversible health issues will likely not be viable if carried to term, in your belief system and both scenarios your daughter needs to carry to term regardless of the health risks. Sorry for the young girl or women in either case. What if the girl is 13 at the time, still forcing her to carry to term Jim? Fuc*ed up is all I can say, I’m 100% behind a women being able to decide what course she takes.

Jim in CT 12-05-2021 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1218871)
Jim I’m curious if your or a family members daughter is raped by the evil uncle or a first date gone horribly wrong, is it your belief she should be forced to carry to term? So your daughter or a close friends gets married and in her first pregnancy, it’s determined there is a high likelihood the baby with serious abnormalities and irreversible health issues will likely not be viable if carried to term, in your belief system, in both scenarios your daughter needs to carry to term regardless of the health risks. Sorry for the young girl or women in either case. What if the girl is 13 at the time, still forcing her to carry to term Jim? Fuc*ed up is all I can say, I’m 100% behind a women being able to decide what course she takes.

that’s a fair question.

before roe v wade, abortion was legal in the cases of rape and incest and when the life of the mom is in danger. i’d happily go back
to that.

abortions on rape victims are also rare, the vast majority of abortions are retroactive birth control for women who engaged in consensual sex.

so a law that only allowed abortions for rape, incest, and when the life of the mom is actually at risk, would
eliminate a huge percentage of abortions.

i see very big differences between a rape victim and someone who got pregnant from consensual
sex. i can’t imagine anyone going through that.

but if you think a baby is a human being at conception, the circumstances surrounding the conception don’t really matter that from the baby’s perspective. so i’d hope that rape victims
would somehow find it in them to give it up for adoption, but of
course that’s easy for me to say, having never been through that.

but again, i’d be very happy to return to pre roe v wade.

that’s a VERY fair and challenging question. but it also addresses a tiny percentage of abortions.

as far as abnormalities go, i don’t think people who weren’t born as lucky as you and i were, are any less human than we are, i don’t make those distinctions. killing people who have abnormalities sounds very Third Reich to me. i have a child with very slight special
needs, nothing too serious. It never occurred to me to chop him up in order to make my life easier. “God don’t make no junk”, as the expression goes.

i think the huge, huge majority of the pro life crowd would carve out exceptions for rape.


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