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Got Stripers 01-13-2021 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1208295)
How many times does he have to condemn white supremacy .

Easy answer, every time he is asked to do so, especially since it’s now well documented by the FBI and all intelligence agencies, white supremacy lead domestic terrorist attacks are this nations biggest threat, not the radical international terrorists.

detbuch 01-13-2021 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1208300)
Easy answer, every time he is asked to do so, especially since it’s now well documented by the FBI and all intelligence agencies, white supremacy lead domestic terrorist attacks are this nations biggest threat, not the radical international terrorists.

Oh, you mean that he may have changed his mind. Should we check in with him every week or so to make sure he hasn't changed his mind? How often should we ask Biden if he condemns Antifa?

What and who does white supremacy lead? And by how much? And what is the actual number and frequency of the attacks? Does the FBI mean, by "lead," that there are actually other terrorists? Should we not be concerned about there threat because they don't have the lead?

Got Stripers 01-13-2021 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1208304)
Oh, you mean that he may have changed his mind. Should we check in with him every week or so to make sure he hasn't changed his mind? How often should we ask Biden if he condemns Antifa?

What and who does white supremacy lead? And by how much? And what is the actual number and frequency of the attacks? Does the FBI mean, by "lead," that there are actually other terrorists? Should we not be concerned about there threat because they don't have the lead?

You must be living in a bubble, I guess you think the organizers of the capital breach were normal every day run of the mill republicans, just looking to exercise their peaceful right to protest.

detbuch 01-13-2021 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1208307)
You must be living in a bubble, I guess you think the organizers of the capital breach were normal every day run of the mill republicans, just looking to exercise their peaceful right to protest.

Nope. Don't think that. Never said that or anything like that. The rioters should be prosecuted. What did I say to evoke this response from you?

Sea Dangles 01-14-2021 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1208310)
Nope. Don't think that. Never said that or anything like that. The rioters should be prosecuted. What did I say to evoke this response from you?

Don’t hold your breath waiting for a sensible response.
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Jim in CT 01-14-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1208307)
You must be living in a bubble, I guess you think the organizers of the capital breach were normal every day run of the mill republicans, just looking to exercise their peaceful right to protest.

i’d also like to know what he said here, that could possibly lead you to that conclusion.
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scottw 01-14-2021 12:25 PM

no rest for the bitter left :hihi:

Pete F. 01-14-2021 12:42 PM

From the notorious left wing rag

The public warnings that law enforcement missed before Capitol riots

White nationalists, private militias had openly described plans

DHS official tells me:

“It was no different than Charlottesville...We were caught with our pants down.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/extremi...bshare_twitter

PaulS 01-14-2021 06:41 PM

Pete, you might have some company. Looks like Republicans are trying to cancel Chaney.
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Pete F. 01-14-2021 08:20 PM

UPDATE: "ANTIFA" ARRESTS SINCE JAN. 6 REMAIN far closer to ZERO
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scottw 01-15-2021 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1208396)
UPDATE: "ANTIFA" ARRESTS SINCE JAN. 6 REMAIN ZERO
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John Sullivan

ironically the founder of the civil rights group "Insurgence USA"

well known blm/antifa punk

John Sullivan was arrested and charged on January 14th, according to the Department of Justice, with “one count of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, one count of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, and one count of interfering with law enforcement engaged in the lawful performance of their official duties incident to and during the commission of civil disorder.”

Pete F. 01-15-2021 06:13 AM

"9 in 10 Americans oppose the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, seven in 10 say Donald Trump bears at least some responsibility for it and a majority in a new ABC/WaPo poll – 56% – favors efforts in Congress to bar him from holding elected office again."
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scottw 01-15-2021 06:53 AM

oh good...meaningless snapshot polls from corrupt news organizations:rolleyes:

Got Stripers 01-15-2021 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1208409)
oh good...meaningless snapshot polls from corrupt news organizations:rolleyes:

Quiet, don’t tell Jim snapshot polls are meaningless.

Pete F. 01-15-2021 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1208413)
Quiet, don’t tell Jim snapshot polls are meaningless.

🤦
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scottw 01-15-2021 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Traitors (Post 1208413)
Quiet, don’t tell Jim snapshot polls are meaningless.

I think you did...perhaps you should inform pete as well....

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Originally Posted by Got Traitors View Post

"are you really stating the extremely small sampling the XYZ poll takes is a true representation of the millions of Americans?"



it's funny how many things sail right over your head...

Pete F. 01-15-2021 08:10 AM

I didn’t think I had to quote him for people to get it.
You proved that I was correct
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scottw 01-15-2021 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1208418)
I didn’t think I had to quote him for people to get it.
You proved that I was correct
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correct about what pete? you are off to a slow start...

scottw 01-15-2021 08:17 AM

hey pete...let's not skip over what you were wrong about...I think it's fair to wonder how John Sullivan was able to get all the way into the Capitol building amongst all of those violent and angry racists ....apparently unscathed....:rollem:

Got Stripers 01-15-2021 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1208416)
I think you did...perhaps you should inform pete as well....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Traitors View Post

"are you really stating the extremely small sampling the XYZ poll takes is a true representation of the millions of Americans?"



it's funny how many things sail right over your head...

Wow thanks captain obvious for pointing out something I was aware I posted, but thanks for reinforcing my jab at Jim.

Jim in CT 01-15-2021 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1208425)
Wow thanks captain obvious for pointing out something I was aware I posted, but thanks for reinforcing my jab at Jim.

more like a pinch from a girl.

if snapshot polls are meaningless, what’s your take on a presidential
impeachment vote in the house, done in a couple of hours? you’re ok with snap impeachment it seems. were there any hearings, any testimony, any interviews with those who were arrested?

forget the poll ( which is what you do to poll you don’t like). look at this list ( a selective list of his good accomplishments, it’s not everything you need to know about the last 4 years), and tell me why people wouldn’t conclude these things improved their lives?

tax cuts
low unemployment
lowest black unemployment ever
stock market records
increases in median incomes
isis routed
no involvement in questionable
conflicts
increased funding for black colleges
school choice
creation of economic opportunity zones in urban areas
criminal justice reform
making america energy independent
peace progress in the middle east
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Got Stripers 01-15-2021 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1208428)
more like a pinch from a girl.

if snapshot polls are meaningless, what’s your take on a presidential
impeachment vote in the house, done in a couple of hours? you’re ok with snap impeachment it seems. were there any hearings, any testimony, any interviews with those who were arrested?

forget the poll ( which is what you do to poll you don’t like). look at this list ( a selective list of his good accomplishments, it’s not everything you need to know about the last 4 years), and tell me why people wouldn’t conclude these things improved their lives?

tax cuts
low unemployment
lowest black unemployment ever
stock market records
increases in median incomes
isis routed
no involvement in questionable
conflicts
increased funding for black colleges
school choice
creation of economic opportunity zones in urban areas
criminal justice reform
making america energy independent
peace progress in the middle east
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Boy when you get your needle stuck it’s epic, going to have fun for four years of whataboutism and lists oh boy.

Jim in CT 01-15-2021 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1208429)
Boy when you get your needle stuck it’s epic, going to have fun for four years of whataboutism and lists oh boy.

so like most liberals, when backed into a corner, instead of admitting the possibility that i have a point, you lob baseless insults.

GS, i’m not rooting against biden. 4 years from now, i hope i’m saying he did more to improve my life, than Trump. I’m not expecting it, but i hope it.

In the meantime, he’s inadvertently helping me. This summer, when i was convinced biden was going to win, i tried to figure out how i could benefit from that. i figured a biden presidency would be good for china, and bad for us oil. so i dug deeper, and tried to figure out what that might mean, and i figured at some point, businesses that get a lot of help or revenue from china will do well, and businesses that benefit from an increase in the price of oil will do well. so i bought Tesla and Exxon Mobil. let’s say it hasn’t exactly been a disaster.

and i love how you dismiss so
much as whatsboutism. I’ll ask you again, is there no value in pointing out hypocrisy? how do you prove hypocrisy, without engaging in whatsboutism?

let’s see you not defend everything biden does for the next 4 years, by saying trump was worse. I’d like to see that.
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Jim in CT 01-15-2021 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1208429)
Boy when you get your needle stuck it’s epic, going to have fun for four years of whataboutism and lists oh boy.

oh, and as always, you completely dodged my question like the coward you are, and lobbed baseless insults instead.
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Pete F. 01-15-2021 09:34 AM

"If your only -- or even simply your first -- point in defense of Trump is that Democrats are hypocrites or have double standards, you are in effect arguing that the left dictates your standards.

If you say Trump can't or shouldn't be held to account because liberals didn't hold their own side accountable for (what you allege) was similar incitement or behavior, what you're really saying is you care less about your own standards than the hypocrisy of the left.

I have no problem complaining about the hypocrisy of the left. But even if the facts were exactly as you allege, I still oppose incitement and unconstitutional behavior. The left's shifting standards shouldn't change conservatism's standards.

If my kid shoplifts, she'll be punished. If she complains her friend's parents don't care about shoplifting so it's unfair for me to punish her, I'll say "I don't care what they do" (even though I do care and I'll make a stink later). None of that changes what's right.

I'm not an expert on Christianity. But my understanding is that if you sin and are called to account for it, replying "Yeah, but look at what the Muslims do" is not a defense. Again, no expert so I'm open to correction.

But that's my point. Vast swaths of what passes for serious conservatism and analysis boils down to whining that the left is trying to hold the right accountable to the right's own standards -- and that that's somehow unfair.

Just because the left is outraged that the president lied about the election being stolen so much that a mob stormed the Capitol and killed people on the president's behalf, doesn't mean conservatives SHOULDN'T BE OUTRAGED BY IT FFS.

And just because you think their outrage is hypocritical, inconsistent, partisan, or set to the wrong tune for all I care, that shouldn't lessen your anger or outrage one iota.

In fact, you should be angrier b/c this wannabe celebrity despot implicitly & explicitly claims to be acting & speaking for you. You should be screaming, "This isn't who we are" or "Not my name you staggering jackwad." Not bleating about how some Democrat is a hypocrite.

Conservatism claims to believe in serious notions of right & wrong. We (claim to) champion moral clarity. If your first response to every misdeed of your side is to criticize the other side for condemning it. That's not principled conservatism, it's hackery.
Rant over"

Guess who

scottw 01-15-2021 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Traitors (Post 1208425)
Wow thanks captain obvious for pointing out something I was aware I posted, but thanks for reinforcing my jab at Jim.

it's not clear that you were..

perhaps you should get one of those cognitive tests...you don't even remember writing on those golf balls and hitting them out on to the course...

Pete F. 01-15-2021 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1208428)
more like a pinch from a girl.


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Definitely not a misogynist

scottw 01-15-2021 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1208434)
Definitely not a misogynist

you should report him....:btu:

Pete F. 01-15-2021 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1208435)
you should report him....:btu:

Defiantly a troll

Sea Dangles 01-15-2021 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1208441)
Defiantly a troll

Proof
Of
Stupidity

Pete F. 01-15-2021 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1208443)
Proof
I'm
Stupid

:huh:

Sea Dangles 01-15-2021 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1208430)
so like most liberals, when backed into a corner, instead of admitting the possibility that i have a point, you lob baseless insults.

GS, i’m not rooting against biden. 4 years from now, i hope i’m saying he did more to improve my life, than Trump. I’m not expecting it, but i hope it.

In the meantime, he’s inadvertently helping me. This summer, when i was convinced biden was going to win, i tried to figure out how i could benefit from that. i figured a biden presidency would be good for china, and bad for us oil. so i dug deeper, and tried to figure out what that might mean, and i figured at some point, businesses that get a lot of help or revenue from china will do well, and businesses that benefit from an increase in the price of oil will do well. so i bought Tesla and Exxon Mobil. let’s say it hasn’t exactly been a disaster.

and i love how you dismiss so
much as whatsboutism. I’ll ask you again, is there no value in pointing out hypocrisy? how do you prove hypocrisy, without engaging in whatsboutism?

let’s see you not defend everything biden does for the next 4 years, by saying trump was worse. I’d like to see that.
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Look into Lucid
My 16 year old has decided to invest heavily
He was right on Bitcoin and Tesla

Sea Dangles 01-15-2021 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1208444)
:huh:

Cancel culture has exacerbated your shortcomings
🤡

Pete F. 01-15-2021 10:41 AM

Trump’s final Pew poll shows only 29% of Americans approve his conduct as POTUS.

The lowest number ever.

Sea Dangles 01-15-2021 10:49 AM

👍🏽🍔
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Jim in CT 01-15-2021 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1208446)
Look into Lucid
My 16 year old has decided to invest heavily
He was right on Bitcoin and Tesla

Thanks, I don't know anything about Lucid. And I just put in stop-loss orders on the Tesla, as it probably has more downside than upside at this point...

PaulS 01-15-2021 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1208449)
Trump’s final Pew poll shows only 29% of Americans approve his conduct as POTUS.

The lowest number ever.

Lowest for him but don't forget another R Nixon's was lower.

scottw 01-15-2021 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1208396)
UPDATE: "ANTIFA" ARRESTS SINCE JAN. 6 REMAIN far closer to ZERO
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INSURGENCY USA

Pete F. 01-15-2021 11:49 AM

Washington Post is just out with "How the rioters who stormed the Capitol came dangerously close to Pence”

Could this be one reason Pence mightn’t be too jazzed about a deal with Trump making Pence president for a day so he can pardon ex-president Trump early on January 20? Just asking . . .

scottw 01-15-2021 11:53 AM

is pence ok?

funny how some are concerned about how "dangerously close" these rioters came to politicians but over the last year ignored rioters beating innocent citizens and burning down private property and attacking police and other law enforcement members...


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