The difference bt when Obama did it and Trump has been explained to you many times.

"would you treat one of your sons the same way when he says something for the first time vs if he repeatedly does that egregious thing over and over?"

I happily concede that doing something once, and doing it constantly, are different. I didn't dispute that.

My observation, and I m correct, is that there a long string of negative behavior that most politicians engage in. It's funny that for each negative behavior, Obama/Biden/Hilary all engage in that behavior below the acceptable maximum number of times allowed, and Trump is always over the maximum. Like putting kids in cages. Right? No one gave a crap when Obama did it, no one even noticed. But when Trump does it, it's monstrous.

As I said, I'm sure that's all just a coincidence and not a moving of the goalposts.

"The difference bt when Obama did it and Trump has been explained to you many times. "

Right. Trump did it too many times. But I don't recall seeing a threshold as to how many times you could do it, before it was problematic. But that threshold, again, was higher than the number of times Obama did it, and below the number of times Trump did it.

It's funny how none of these things are any kind of an issue until Trump came along.

That is the key

bill clinton is still
worshipped on the left. is he a much better person han trump?

they’re very different, as clinton is the poster boy of an oily smooth politician, and trump is the opposite.

but the reason i support trump, is because for 8 years when clinton was president, democrats said personal conduct didn’t matter, what mattered was results. i agree with that when evaluating a president. i still do. democrats have flip flopped, and all of a sudden character matters. i wish we could
set the tules, and leave them
in place regardless of party. that goes for both sides.

clinton was disbarred. when lawyers decide you’re too sleazy to associate with, that’s an accomplishment.

i don’t feel inclined to get a lecture about ethics from anyone who supports bill clinton. you can’t have it both ways.
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Didn't Bill Clinton say he was sorry and take ownership? Trump hasn't owned anything.

Yes, Bill is a far better person than Trump.

it is not having it both ways it is you trying to make a case for one of the worse people anywhere.

Clinton is a far better person because he said he was sorry? All will take for Trump is to say he is sorry?

About the Access Hollywood tape, Trump said:
"I’m not proud of it. I apologize to my family. I apologize to the American people. Certainly I’m not proud of it." And "I was wrong and I apologize."

Good for him for saying that. Did he ever later try to walk that back?

Let him say he is sorry for the thousands of lies, thousands of insults, etc. and I'll no longer say Clinton is a far better person than Trump.

Oh good lord. So if Trump apologized, that would be good enough for you? THAT'S what you're saying?

Yes it is having it both ways. Unethical behavior is only a problem for all of you, when it comes from the right. In some case it's the same exact behavior - no complaints when the left does it, horror when the right does it. Infidelity, putting kids in cages, nominating judges in an election year...how many examples would you like?

Trump said sorry but some question the sincerity and supposedly he later questioned if it was him on the tape.

I don't believe either one. But if they said they were sorry, then they met the original criteria for your absolution. Of course, if you keep putting add-ons and stipulations, you can finally figure a way to make their apologies different and make Trump worse.

On to Pennsylvania

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJQZ7yG7Tdg

"I have no problem w/nominating judges in an election year - it is the not bringing them up for a vote that I find scummy"

Oh my God, do you know what the 'Biden rule' is which the republicans relied in when denying the vote?

BIDEN HIMSELF, when Bush was president, said famously that if a president nominates a SCOTUS candidate in an election year, that the senate should refuse a hearing. Biden said that, they call it the Biden Rule!!

So, unless you have no principles, that must mean you think that Biden is scummy.

You really shot yourself in the foot there.

Can't wait to hear your explanation as to why it was OK for Biden to suggest blocking a vote during an election year!

so if a president apologizes, you forgive him. Unless "some" doubt the sincerity of the apology, in which case you don't forgive them.

And it's just a coincidence that none of those "some" doubted the sincerity of Bill Clinton's apologies, because he just reeks of sincerity.

he already did. In Trumps case "some" doubted the sincerity of his apology, and that was good enough to ignore the apology and declare Trump worse. I guess the "some" who say Clinton wasn't sincere, aren't as credible as the "some" who determined that Trump isn't sincere. Because that's an exact science.

because Biden was trying to convince people not to do something versus the Republicans who actually refused to do what they were supposed to do, It was much later in the election year and there was no SC vacancy. He was saying they should wait until after the election.
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I'm not getting why you are stuck on what Biden or the Republicans said. The Constitution doesn't rely on their versions or when they said their versions or who said what first or who was scummier. What the Republicans are doing is constitutional. I think a "period! End of story." after that would be called for.

Why is it that writings written in a professional capacity on a specific issue aren’t relevant or instructive to how that person will execute their job, but private personal texts are THE SMOKING GUN for the intention and state of mind of how others did theirs?
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Well, because if that is how it is in politically driven hearings, then that is how it is.

Sen. Hawkeye to Barrett: "I'm surprised that the Democrats haven't criticized you about your religion today. So let ME go ahead and bring up your religion now and make it an issue."
That's 7 Trumplican Senators that have mentioned her faith repeatedly over two days, and not a word from the D's.
He has nothing else to bring to the table. Just another guy using the GOP playbook of dividing the country through religion, race, and culture. They have absolutely nothing else to run on. Just look at the past 4 years.
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DId Biden support something you said was scummy? Yes or no?

:rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

well, trump has the democrats fighting with their most reliable media mouthpieces...crazy nancy accuses wolfie and his cnn colleagues of being
"apologists" for republicans??? bizzaro world....it's a magical place


https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/...n_live_tv.html

Did I miss the promised release by Trump of the so-much-better health plan than the ACA? Or is he releasing his tax returns first?
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He's already removed the worst part of the ACA and the rest can remain in place until the Repubs gain enough power to pass some of the more free market plans or whatever new thing they can scramble together. The federal government must get out of its debt busting unconstitutional schemes.

His tax returns are in an ongoing dispute and investigation, as you know and have "exposed," the validity of what his tax lawyers/accountants claimed as deductions. That's what he means when he says his returns are under audit.

He’s said it’s coming in two weeks many times, sort of like his infrastructure lies.
Which are like his tax and wealth lies.
All lies
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Blah, blah

Another great Presidential quote

Does Biden have to report Donald Trump's town hall as an in-kind contribution?
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Blah blah blah blah

did the head of the biden crime syndicate pat g. stepanopolous on the top of the head and thank him for the foot massage?

You keep posting Covita’s answers, you must have watched last night
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Yes, in spite of detesting these things called debates which really are not debates, I did watch because my wife asked me to. I think these debates are meant to be hit jobs on Trump. And what I saw last night, confirmed my opinion. If Savannah Guthrie doesn't know that Trump has several times denounced white supremacy in no uncertain terms, something that can be very easily verified, destroys any notion of her being an honest "moderator." And asking the idiot question if Trump would accept a peaceful transition of power after he has had a four year war against against his being elected to power, and when the media she represents has not badgered Biden if he would do the same, exposes what a hack hit job she was trying to perpetrate with her immoderate, prosecutorial method and attitude laced throughout the show with questions meant to influence the jury to convict rather than trying expose any relevant truth.

And yeah, the same dirty prosecutorial trick of withholding evidence, insinuating guilt, and making false accusations, is being exposed, as if we didn't already know what the leftist media is up to. The obvious hypocrisy of the left wing media is in full array as it tries to suppress the latest NY Post's articles on Biden and his son. Ohhh, right, it might be fake, it's not verified, it's in the public interest not to air something that might not be true . . . but it was a duty for four years to print a whole host of continuing accusations about Trump that were far more outrageous and unverified, and accepting illegally provided leaks of investigations which had not yet arrived at a conclusion if those leaks were damaging to Trump.

And yeah, you wallow in this continual blah, blah, blah.

You sound like McEnany playing all the victim cards but ya know if everyone is against you maybe there’s a reason

“TWITTER is against us.

THE MEDIA is against us.

BIG TECH is against us.

THE SWAMP is against us.

THE DEEP STATE is against us.

THE HOLLYWOOD ELITE is against us.

CHINA is against us.

But President Trump has the WORKING MAN AND WOMAN and NOTHING can beat that‼️“

Apparently Russia is for him though.
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That last one is apparently mixed. It is apparent that Russia has been trying to destroy our confidence in our system and our politics. Its being "for him" may well be a temporary and changeable part of its overall plan of putting our politics and confidence in disarray--which wouldn't be all that beneficial to Trump.

Oh and you forgot to mention a very large part of the media, such as Fox, several major print publications, lot's of folks on twitter, a huge pro-Trump, anti-leftist, number of blogs, shows, news orgs, on the internet media. Your above list is bigly wanting. It's an add on to your never ending blah, blah, blah.

That was McEnany’s list, though she does have a history of uttering falsehoods, or to put it plainly, lying
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As I said, her list is in various degrees true. I don't think the last thing that you mentioned is hers, and is "mixed" and not necessarily a support of Trump as much as just trying to mess up our politics.

And I don't know about her history of lying, but you have an ample one on this forum Maybe your not only a lot like your portrayal of Trump, but also like McEnany .

I kinda like what James Carville wrote, that’s been echoed by others from Amash to Sasse

“Just days away, a unified and electrified coalition of Americans, coming together like our country did in World War II, standing united to send a message that will be heard around the world to all those who look with expectant hope to the America that led the crusade more than half a century ago: That America has not succumbed to a demagogue and would-be autocrat. That we have overcome. And that Donald J. Trump is not who we are.

In just a short time, America will go from its darkest hour to its finest hour.“
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Carville and "others" are not who we are. We are not an electrified coalition of Americans who prefer to vote for those who would destroy the Constitution and transform America into a centralized all powerful state of bureaucratic rules and regulations which dictates to us what rights they allow us to have.

We will see what Americans say in less than three weeks
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Deep stuff.