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Jim in CT 08-26-2020 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1199476)
I can’t say for certainty, but I would bet countries that didn’t shut down and did reasonably well, are not full of the selfish it’s all about me and my rights and my fun American youth. If we didn’t lock down I’d bet the numbers would be really high and the shut down would have been required even if late and the damages far worse.

You may well be right. But then why did NY allow anti police protests?

Got Stripers 08-26-2020 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1199483)
You may well be right. But then why did NY allow anti police protests?

I thought I addressed that, because it’s our right.

Pete F. 08-26-2020 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199468)
Sweden had one new death.

Hey remember when Trump said in Tulsa that he wanted to decrease COVID-19 testing and Trump's critics said he definitely means it so this needs to be investigated immediately and Trump and you said no I was joking so media ignored it and now it turns out he was of course totally serious?
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Jim in CT 08-26-2020 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1199486)
I thought I addressed that, because it’s our right.

No. NYC banned all large gatherings, except for anti police protests. So please point me to the section of the constitution, which specifies that the right to assembly can be rescinded except for assemblies which help democrats win elections? Diblasio said very explicitly, that liberal protesters had the right, but no one else did.

Defend that.

Pete F. 08-26-2020 07:58 PM

Now tell us about Tulsa and who’s that pizza man that loved Tweety?
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detbuch 08-26-2020 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199487)
Hey remember when Trump said in Tulsa that he wanted to decrease COVID-19 testing and Trump's critics said he definitely means it so this needs to be investigated immediately and Trump and you said no I was joking so media ignored it and now it turns out he was of course totally serious?
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I don't remember him saying that he wanted to decrease the testing. I remember him saying jokingly that he told his people to slow down the testing because they were doing so much that it created larger numbers of cases. I also remember him being proud of the most testing in the world. I also remember that he did not actually tell anybody to do less testing. That nobody could find evidence or acknowledgement that he told anybody to do less testing. And that his sarcasm was exactly to call attention to the amount of testing being done, attention he didn't think, rightly, that he was being given credit for.

And Sweden had one new death.

Pete F. 08-27-2020 06:44 AM

Interesting that some think we should emulate Sweden in virus control but we can’t do healthcare similar to theirs because they are a more heterogeneous society and therefore it would never succeed here.
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Got Stripers 08-27-2020 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1199488)
No. NYC banned all large gatherings, except for anti police protests. So please point me to the section of the constitution, which specifies that the right to assembly can be rescinded except for assemblies which help democrats win elections? Diblasio said very explicitly, that liberal protesters had the right, but no one else did.

Defend that.

If Trump pulled the trigger on some foreign engagement that brought protesters out in numbers, I have no doubt N.Y. would have been forced to allow it if the numbers were of the same size. The same would have been true in any other state, if the movement of the time brings people out in the streets there is little enforcement can do provided its peaceful, in spite of Covid restrictions. The looters and fu*ck heads destroying property are just idiots, they are doing exactly what a Trump wants them to do (think on that for a minute), the more they burn, destroy and ruin the livelihoods of local citizens, the more Trump takes pleasure (still pondering that) in pointing his law and order finger to say see what’s coming if you don’t elect me. He stokes it and he loves to see the rioting, it’s perfect campaign fodder for him and his base.

Pete F. 08-27-2020 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199503)

And Sweden had one new death.

And now for the rest of the story

https://icds.ee/en/covid-19-policy-i...of-admiration/

Pete F. 08-27-2020 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199503)
I don't remember him saying that he wanted to decrease the testing. I remember him saying jokingly that he told his people to slow down the testing because they were doing so much that it created larger numbers of cases. I also remember him being proud of the most testing in the world. I also remember that he did not actually tell anybody to do less testing. That nobody could find evidence or acknowledgement that he told anybody to do less testing. And that his sarcasm was exactly to call attention to the amount of testing being done, attention he didn't think, rightly, that he was being given credit for.

As usual there is video

Claiming that you have done the "most" testing in the world is playing with numbers. Testing percentage based on population was lower than many other countries at that time. Since then we have gotten better at testing but if recent reports are true it seems we are now going, once again, in the wrong direction for political reasons.
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n83WQC06t4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHKye3Kgc4Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr81b-A_Tj0

detbuch 08-27-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199517)
As usual there is video

Claiming that you have done the "most" testing in the world is playing with numbers. Testing percentage based on population was lower than many other countries at that time. Since then we have gotten better at testing but if recent reports are true it seems we are now going, once again, in the wrong direction for political reasons.
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n83WQC06t4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHKye3Kgc4Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr81b-A_Tj0

We've already seen these videos and discussed them. They are misleading. As Spence used to say, it's in the archives. No point in beating a dead horse with you. You just keep repeating the same chit no matter that it's been debunked. You keep applying the Nazi big lie method knowing enough people will believe it.

Pete F. 08-27-2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199525)
We've already seen these videos and discussed them. They are misleading. As Spence used to say, it's in the archives. No point in beating a dead horse with you. You just keep repeating the same chit no matter that it's been debunked. You keep applying the Nazi big lie method knowing enough people will believe it.

He said it and said he wasn’t kidding and then lied some more

Tweety’s the master gaslighter
Just don’t believe your lying eyes and trust in Tweety
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detbuch 08-27-2020 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199534)
He said it and said he wasn’t kidding and then lied some more

Tweety’s the master gaslighter
Just don’t believe your lying eyes and trust in Tweety
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As I've said, I already discussed these. They are selected tidbits made to look like something they're not. You need to cling to you're misinforation videos to pump up your narrative. And you will keep doing so.

Pete F. 08-27-2020 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199536)
As I've said, I already discussed these. They are selected tidbits made to look like something they're not. You need to cling to you're misinforation videos to pump up your narrative. And you will keep doing so.

No narrative required

5M infected
180K dead

It is what is
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detbuch 08-27-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199542)
No narrative required

5M infected
180K dead

It is what is
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Old news.

Pete F. 08-27-2020 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199546)
Old news.

In the past 14 days
45K new cases
1200 more deaths
Hotspots in Tweety’s states
Must be time to quit testing and go to school
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detbuch 08-27-2020 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199547)
In the past 14 days
45K new cases
1200 more deaths
Hotspots in Tweety’s states
Must be time to quit testing and go to school
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Old news.

Pete F. 08-27-2020 01:18 PM

CDC director Redfield is walking back CDC guideline not to test asymptomatics!!! Facing criticism, he now says “testing may be considered for all close contacts of confirmed or probable Covid-19 patients.”

detbuch 08-27-2020 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199570)
CDC director Redfield is walking back CDC guideline not to test asymptomatics!!! Facing criticism, he now says “testing may be considered for all close contacts of confirmed or probable Covid-19 patients.”

I'm guessing the significant part of this for you is the "facing criticism"

Pete F. 08-28-2020 02:06 PM

Senior White House Official Tells CNN That "Everybody" in America Will Get COVID-19; White House Statement Is Consistent With Trump's Reported Desire to Execute a "Herd Immunity" Pandemic Response; Experts Say Such a Plan Would Kill Millions

The only solution to this is to protect yourself and your family and your community from the President of the United States by ignoring him and any entity under his command. Put your trust in state and local health officials and national and international medical experts.

spence 08-28-2020 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199708)
Senior White House Official Tells CNN That "Everybody" in America Will Get COVID-19; White House Statement Is Consistent With Trump's Reported Desire to Execute a "Herd Immunity" Pandemic Response; Experts Say Such a Plan Would Kill Millions

The only solution to this is to protect yourself and your family and your community from the President of the United States by ignoring him and any entity under his command. Put your trust in state and local health officials and national and international medical experts.

TRUMP 2020 - because you're all going to die someday

PaulS 09-01-2020 12:38 PM

More stupid coming out of Trump's mouth.

White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci confirmed on Tuesday that more than 180,000 people in the U.S. have died from Covid-19.
Fauci's comments come after some have claimed a new CDC update indicates only 6% of the nation's total reported Covid-19 deaths were actually from the virus, and the remaining percent died of "other serious illnesses."

White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci debunked online theories promoted by President Donald Trump that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has changed its guidance for tallying coronavirus deaths, showing a fraction of total Covid-19 fatalities.

On Sunday, Twitter removed a post retweeted by Trump that claimed the CDC had "quietly" updated its guidance to indicate only 6% of the country's coronavirus death toll — roughly 9,000 deaths — was actually caused by the virus,

The tweet said the remaining 94% had "other serious illnesses."


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