Four more years

Ivanka 2024
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Brain dead to brain dead I’m pretty sure that’s not happening.

Many states vote by mail, hey Trump votes by mail because he can’t get to his vacation home in Florida, so it’s only logical he should sue Nevada to prevent mail in voting. This man and his minions continue to attempt to prevent those they fear from voting, it’s to bad for them everyone who wants him out is going to risk life to cast a vote against him.

Oh wait Russia can’t hack a paper ballot, hummmm.

Whether you call it Vote by Mail or Absentee Voting, in Florida the election system is Safe and Secure, Tried and True," Trump tweeted

What he found out was in FLA more republicans use mail in ballots then. Democrats that why he has changed his tune ..plus its called the electoral college .. he cant win with out Fla
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you understand the difference between absentee ballots vs. the proposed mail in ballots right?

Gee wiz let me think on that, man that’s a hard one, but yeah I do. Every registered voter in Colorado for example receives a ballot by mail and that is what Trump is attempting other states from doing, even thou it’s proven and results in almost NO fraud. Stump the panel game can continue, all good fun I’m sure.
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Seems you dont know

Mass and many states have sent applications i got 1 if you want a mail in ballot .fill it out and send it back . Their just Not just sending ballots. some states may just send them not Mass
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Mass sent us 4 of them, only two of us live here, but we got 4. Good thing I'm honest :hihi:
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While I don’t debate the fact that Ivanka will be doing four more years in 2024; you guys realize that it’s gonna be conjugal and on her knees, right?

Good girl Ivanka, a little to the left.
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heres a question for the mail in voter fraud crowd or those who think the post office cant handle it..

Where do you think mail in ballots are sent? To be lost

heres My understanding they get sent to your local election boards . In the town where you live .and are counted my the same people who would cont the vote if you voted in person

Not some centralize mail in vote collection point ?
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How about this scenario, we received 4 mail in ballot requests. 1 for me, 1 for my wife, and 1 each for the kids. Neither kid lives at home but we got the forms mailed here. What's to stop me (other than being honest) from signing theirs and returning them and when I get the ballots doing the exact same thing? I can't be the only person out there facing this scenario.

As far as the local townies counting the ballots, they have no idea that they don't live with us anymore. Looks good to them.
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Voter fraud carries severe penalties.

Are your kids still registered at your home address?

I know all about it, I'm just putting out a scenario that could lead to it happening somewhere else. With less scrupulous people.
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The ballots have to be approved with a signature match or they're tossed. I think about 5 states do primarily mail in ballots with no issues.

I think the bigger concern is Trump brazenly trying to undermine a fair election, break the USPS and generally cause chaos. Are they any institutions he won't try and sacrifice for his own interests?

A signature match to the ballot application? If I sign both, they match.
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like that's an exact science.

Trump this morning why he won’t fund US Postal Service. “Now they need that money in order to make the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots ... But if they don’t get those two items that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting.”

https://twitter.com/i/status/1293896544668782592

Truth - Same - I send stuff Registered all over, for years, costs 15-30 depending on location, gets locked each stop in special bins, signed in signed out. Still lose around 5% of packages.



True - I have met these local people on elections boards and work for them. Nice folk, frequently retired, often far better at driving a light machinery than a mouse.



So does heroin and illegal firearms, yet growth is exploding in both





Sure you think that is the bigger concern. Obama's Pre-COVID USPS would, of course, handled it swimmingly. All problems started with Trump.

Likely they would have needed some extra funding, that's exactly the opposite of denying funding with the express purpose of harming people's ability vote safely in a pandemic.

Next we're going to see Trump invite Chinese and Russian observers.

The U.S. postal system has needed extra funding at least ever since it became unionized. And for most personal and even much of people's official and financial correspondence, it has greatly been replaced by the internet. Computer mailing would probably be more reliable than postal mail.

Not since unionization as much as since a Republican led congress insisted they hold ridiculously high pension reserves.

Regardless it's an unprecedented, vile, shameless and brazen politicization of our system.

It’s Trump looking for a conspiracy where one doesn’t exist, so he is turning the postal service into part of his campaign team. Trump never hides his intent, he basically admitted he is killing the funding to stop the mail in voting.

Yeah, quite a bit since unionization, though not only because of that. The price of government beyond its normal idiotic and unsustainable spending, has incrementally grown by periodic union demands in wages and benefits--especially the benefits and generous pension arrangements and low ages possible for retirement.

As for the idea that the high pension reserves is the cause, this Forbes article effectively explains it differently: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ebauer/.../#2281215d335f

Your mail in vote doesn't leave the town you mailed in in it's not rocket science

Thousands of absentee ballots have been processed by the military overseas forever they dont magically disappear or increase

At best they need some funding to cover overtime to process the ballots

Ahh it’s the evil unionists
Oddly enough the growth of the middle class parallels the growth of unions, those dirty bastards
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Their growth is parallel because it requires the creation of strong enough economies generated by profitable businesses that can afford to hire the number of workers and pay them the wages needed to sustain and grow the power of a union. The businesses come first. The unions follow.

It isn't as if unions were formed in order to create businesses. There was a middle class without unions. There are middle class jobs that don't have union employees. A free market can produce a middle class without unions. But unions need a market to exist in which they can usefully unionize.

The notion that it was the unions that created the middle class is backwards. And I didn't say that unions are evil. Private sector unions are viable because the relation is symbiotic. The union needs the business to be successful, so, if it is reasonable, it will negotiate win/win contracts. Public sector unions aren't as hampered by the need of their government agency to be profitable. Public sector unions are often one of the reasons why contracts, especially legacy costs, are not sustainable without the government raising taxes or going further into debt.

you understand the difference between absentee and mail-in voting...right?

The Covid virus has taken focus away from something far more troubling to future generations, but when you don’t believe in science to begin with, it’s all just white noise. Greenland ice is predicted to be soon beyond the point of stopping the ice melt eclipsing any snow to replace it and if it goes eventually that’s 23 feet of see level.

Here is a smart guy’s prediction, but hey vote for a science denier if you don’t care about your grandkids future.

Bill Gates summarized the current research this way: “By 2060, climate change could be just as deadly as COVID-19, and by 2100 it could be five times as deadly.” And unlike this pandemic, it would not abate and could not even be stalled, except by entirely zeroing out every ounce of carbon being produced now — 37 gigatons annually — by the planet we have transformed into an emissions factory, and then waiting, at least decades and perhaps centuries, for the climate to stabilize.
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Old news.

But no worries, what no children, no grandchildren, or just a science skeptic?
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Awesome, I’ll finally have ocean front property
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yes there is no difference..

Not sure why you keep suggesting they are diffrent.. because they are spelled differently?

Care to tell us how they differe
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Well, absentee ballots are for those who are Physically located outside their voting jurisdiction

Where mail in voting is, as you stated.....

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No, they are for anyone who doesn’t want to or physically can’t go to a polling location for any reason allowed by local law.

My mom voted absentee for 30 years because she couldn’t walk.
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absentee ballots are requested because the people that request them want to vote, the "mail-in" are just being sent out in volume....because democrats want to try to get as many stupid, lazy and dead people voting as possible because it increases their chances

Stupid might just help Trump, lazy benefits nobody, dead doesn’t really happen.

Don’t know why making voting safer in a pandemic is a bad thing. It’s one of the most important institutions we have and yet one more Trump wants to undermine.
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Yeah, I’ll give you that, for those folks as well.
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wait... the same people who can't or refuse to differentiate between illegal and legal immigrants....can't or refuse to differentiate between requested and mailed out unrequested ballots...this is shocking :biglaugh:

Really love to see where that's happening.. Here in Massachusetts every registered voter had a application for a mail in ballot sent to their home.. and had the choice go to a polling site or fill out the application to receive a MAIL IN BALLOT


But why should facts matter

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New Jersey will send mail-in ballots to ‘everybody’ for 2020 election, despite Trump’s attacks, governor says


New Jersey will send mail-in ballots to all registered voters for the 2020 presidential election while still offering the option for voters to cast their ballots in person, Gov. Phil Murphy said Friday.

“It doesn’t matter what party you’re in, everybody gets a ballot,” Murphy announced in a CNN interview.