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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1166715)

Because a life is extinguished in an abortion. Not sure anyone ever died from unwashed clothes. The Constitution protects life. It does not mention dirty clothes. Is that simple enough?
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Wow your grasping at straws now

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1166717)

Scott, for wdmso the Constitution does not resolve any issue. For him, it is living-breathing (perhaps in a personal self constructed oxygen tent). It can be "interpreted" whichever way you think is proper either to suit a political view of "the time," or to fit your personal perspective.

That is, it is basically irrelevant.

the the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are not the same thing

The Constitution protects life No it does not ... omg what a fabrication now we're using the Constitution as an abortion argument
amazing

The way to conform the Constitution more closely to natural law is not to pretend it means what it does not mean. The way to conform the Constitution more closely to natural law is to duly amend it.)

I guess Trump is once again the carrier of the truth

With a late-term abortion, "the mother meets with the doctor. They take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully. And then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby."
— Donald Trump on Saturday, April 27th, 2019 in a rally in Green Bay, Wis

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1166729)

the the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are not the same thing

Duh! Neither is Article One of the Constitution the same thing as Article Two. Nor is the Constitution of Michigan the same thing as the Constitution of the United States.

The Declaration and The Constitution are different facets of our "organic" law. The Constitution is the formal written code that declares the rights and duties of government; the Declaration contains our foundational principles, as in this from Quora:

" the Constitution, the Declaration, the Articles of Confederation and the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 have been declared by Congress to comprise this nation’s Organic Law. Notice that, as Organic Law, the Declaration is an equal partner with the Constitution, there is no “hierarchy” of organic law.
Black’s Law Dictionary defines organic law as: 'The fundamental law, or constitution, of a state or nation, written or unwritten; that law or system of laws or principles which defines and establishes the organization of its government.'
In GULF, C. & S. F. R. CO. v. ELLIS , 165 U.S. 150 (1897) - See more at: FindLaw's United States Supreme Court case and opinions, the Supreme Court declared the Declaration to be the 'thought and the spirit of our government' while the Constitution, they said, contained the 'body and letter.' ”

So the principles of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as well as all unalienable rights to which we are endowed by our creator, as announced in the Declaration are part of the organic law of this nation.

The Constitution protects life No it does not ... omg what a fabrication now we're using the Constitution as an abortion argument
amazing

The Constitution protects our unalienable rights among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It does so, not by specifically referring to the Declaration, but by limiting the Federal Government to a few powers that can infringe our natural rights only in the limited way prescribed by the enumerations in the Constitution. There is no Constitutional enumeration which embodies a government power to legitimize the taking of an innocent life. So yes, the Constitution does protect life.

check the RI Constitution Section 2 as well :1poke:

can't find anything in there on laundry

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1166748)

No it does not your making stuff up .. and selling as if thats what it actually says .. or settled law ..

funny the anti gun lobby attempted to use the same argument for the victims of gun crime ... life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. but feel on deft ears

settled Law

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113, is a landmark decision issued in 1973 by the United States Supreme Court on the issue of the constitutionality of laws that criminalized or restricted access to abortions.

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1166757)

I didn't make anything up. Everything I said is true and on the record.

You stated that the Constitution does not protect life. Specifically, it protects human life. Abortion is made legal on a conjured basis that the "fetus" is not fully developed human life before a specified amount of time.

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1166757)

.. or settled law ..

Wayne...are you OK with the current Supreme Court...or better yet...the near future Supreme court with another Trump appointee or two creating "settled law"?

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1166769)

Wayne...are you OK with the current Supreme Court...or better yet...the near future Supreme court with another Trump appointee or two creating "settled law"?

isn't that how it works ?

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1166798)

isn't that how it works ?

you really need a refresher course :smash: