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wdmso 12-22-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1157923)
If I could reach through the computer, I would give big hugs. Do what makes you happy.
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A top US official in the fight against the Islamic State group has quit over President Trump's decision to pull troops from Syria, reports say.

Brett McGurk, the US special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat IS,


I know everyone is against Trump just because he is Trump

God forbid His people are bailing on him for actual reasons ....

or are are they just RINOS

Got Stripers 12-22-2018 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1157934)
A top US official in the fight against the Islamic State group has quit over President Trump's decision to pull troops from Syria, reports say.

Brett McGurk, the US special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat IS,


I know everyone is against Trump just because he is Trump

God forbid His people are bailing on him for actual reasons ....

or are are they just RINOS

Not to worry, he has Jared and Ivanka to give him advise on global affairs.

Jim in CT 12-22-2018 03:56 PM

you people
are literally turning into imbeciles. everything he does is wrong. he drank a glass of water?? you know who else drank water - Hitler!

he may well be wrong in syria. but i don’t recall the libs getting their panties bunched up when obama
pulled us out of iraq, which also had serious adverse effects.
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Jim in CT 12-22-2018 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1157939)
Not to worry, he has Jared and Ivanka to give him advise on global affairs.

does Rand Paul not know anything?

if trump always did what the military asked, the libs here would
be freaking out about the military industrial complex.
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spence 12-22-2018 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1157923)
If I could reach through the computer, I would give big hugs. Do what makes you happy.
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Ha thanks Chris.
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Pete F. 12-22-2018 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1157939)
Not to worry, he has Jared and Ivanka to give him advise on global affairs.

You forgot that as part of his deal with the devil, he also had Roy Cohn reincarnated, hence we have Stephen Miller
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wdmso 12-22-2018 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1157942)
you people
are literally turning into imbeciles. everything he does is wrong. he drank a glass of water?? you know who else drank water - Hitler!

he may well be wrong in syria. but i don’t recall the libs getting their panties bunched up when obama
pulled us out of iraq, which also had serious adverse effects.
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speaking of imbeciles ever hear of research

At the end of the Bush administration, when the Status of Forces Agreement, or SOFA, was negotiated, setting 2011 as the end of the United States’ military role, officials had said the deadline was set for political reasons, to put a symbolic end to the occupation and establish Iraq’s sovereignty.

Mr. Obama was willing to support a continued military presence. In June, diplomats and Iraqi officials said that Mr. Obama had told Mr. Maliki that he was prepared to leave up to 10,000 soldiers to continue training and equipping the Iraqi security forces. Mr. Maliki agreed, but said he needed time to line up political allies.

the Iraqis were unwilling to accept anything that infringed on their sovereignty.

Acutely aware of that sentiment, the Iraqi leadership quickly said publicly that they would not support legal protections for any American troops.

So are you suggesting we should have used force and stayed .... its their country PS did anyone have a crystal ball to foresee the future ?? hindsight is always 20\20 and a provided a weak position for criticism years after

Nebe 12-22-2018 05:15 PM

Racists and hateful people always say “you people”. It’s a dog whistle term.

Just throwing it out there as a learning tool.
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Jim in CT 12-22-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1157945)
You forgot that as part of his deal with the devil, he also had Roy Cohn reincarnated, hence we have Stephen Miller
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Stephen Miller made Wolf Blitzer look like a child this week on border security. a bumbling child.
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Jim in CT 12-22-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1157951)
Racists and hateful people always say “you people”. It’s a dog whistle term.

Just throwing it out there as a learning tool.
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so instead of saying you people, i should
have to list all of you by name, individually? no thanks.
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Jim in CT 12-22-2018 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1157951)
Racists and hateful people always say “you people”. It’s a dog whistle term.

Just throwing it out there as a learning tool.
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and thoughtless people who can’t defend their positions, call everyone who disagree with them a racist, a learning tool for you.
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Jim in CT 12-22-2018 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1157946)
speaking of imbeciles ever hear of research

At the end of the Bush administration, when the Status of Forces Agreement, or SOFA, was negotiated, setting 2011 as the end of the United States’ military role, officials had said the deadline was set for political reasons, to put a symbolic end to the occupation and establish Iraq’s sovereignty.

Mr. Obama was willing to support a continued military presence. In June, diplomats and Iraqi officials said that Mr. Obama had told Mr. Maliki that he was prepared to leave up to 10,000 soldiers to continue training and equipping the Iraqi security forces. Mr. Maliki agreed, but said he needed time to line up political allies.

the Iraqis were unwilling to accept anything that infringed on their sovereignty.

Acutely aware of that sentiment, the Iraqi leadership quickly said publicly that they would not support legal protections for any American troops.

So are you suggesting we should have used force and stayed .... its their country PS did anyone have a crystal ball to foresee the future ?? hindsight is always 20\20 and a provided a weak position for criticism years after

he could have tried getting another sofa, a lot of people thought he should
have. but because we’re talking about obama, everyone who disagrees with, is an idiot and a racist, while everyone who disagrees with trump, is legitimate and righteous.
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Pete F. 12-22-2018 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1157954)
Stephen Miller made Wolf Blitzer look like a child this week on border security. a bumbling child.
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Glad you found a new alt right hero
Same technique you use, scream early and often.
Stephen Miller would never have been in public in any Republican administration
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Sea Dangles 12-22-2018 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1157934)
A top US official in the fight against the Islamic State group has quit over President Trump's decision to pull troops from Syria, reports say.

Brett McGurk, the US special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat IS,


I know everyone is against Trump just because he is Trump

God forbid His people are bailing on him for actual reasons ....

or are are they just RINOS

Why are you blaming me, all I did was vote for a person who is saving your future.
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Sea Dangles 12-22-2018 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1157951)
Racists and hateful people always say “you people”. It’s a dog whistle term.

Just throwing it out there as a learning tool.
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I am amused by how the snowflakes love to Cherrypick the “dog whistle “ terms.
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Sea Dangles 12-22-2018 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1157956)
and thoughtless people who can’t defend their positions, call everyone who disagree with them a racist, a learning tool for you.
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Cowardice
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Nebe 12-22-2018 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1157967)
Cowardice
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It’s more like genius.

:hihi:
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Jim in CT 12-22-2018 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1157960)
Glad you found a new alt right hero
Same technique you use, scream early and often.
Stephen Miller would never have been in public in any Republican administration
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Did you see the interview?

Wolf said democrats support border security. Miller asked Wolf what policies democrats advocate and listed many policies that they opposed. Wolf bumbled like an idiot, then changed the subject. Nothing sinister or alt-right about what Miller did. Do you hate Miller because he's good at making liberals look stupid?

Pete F. 12-22-2018 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1157970)
Did you see the interview?

Wolf said democrats support border security. Miller asked Wolf what policies democrats advocate and listed many policies that they opposed. Wolf bumbled like an idiot, then changed the subject. Nothing sinister or alt-right about what Miller did. Do you hate Miller because he's good at making liberals look stupid?

Do a tiny bit of research on the guy
You’re confusing a reporter with a representative of the Democrats party. It’s not a debate with a winner.
When did Miller say these are our policies and this is why we think this is the correct remedy for this issue. All he did is, like you, scream louder and longer.
You have totally bought into the Trumplican lies.
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scottw 12-23-2018 06:48 AM

"Pete
In life, it's important to know when to stop arguing with people and simply let them be wrong."



you argue with yourself a lot :spin:

wdmso 12-23-2018 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1157957)
he could have tried getting another sofa, a lot of people thought he should
have. but because we’re talking about obama, everyone who disagrees with, is an idiot and a racist, while everyone who disagrees with trump, is legitimate and righteous.
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he did but it was not a priority... but again your criticizing a past choice

based on outcomes that happened years later with the assumption if we hadn't left things would be different .


The issue with trump and syria it the leaving the kurds hanging them out to dry against the Turks because Recep Tayyip Erdoğanand asked (another strong man he likes )

the image we dont help those who help us is the real issue not so much the the fear of ISIS making a comeback because of it

Jim in CT 12-23-2018 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1157975)
he did but it was not a priority... but again your criticizing a past choice

based on outcomes that happened years later with the assumption if we hadn't left things would be different .


The issue with trump and syria it the leaving the kurds hanging them out to dry against the Turks because Recep Tayyip Erdoğanand asked (another strong man he likes )

the image we dont help those who help us is the real issue not so much the the fear of ISIS making a comeback because of it

oh, where is it written that we shouldn’t criticize a past choice?

Do you listen to yourself?
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Nebe 12-23-2018 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1157977)
choice?


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Oh my god another trigger word !!

:rotfl:
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Jim in CT 12-23-2018 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1157980)
Oh my god another trigger word !!

:rotfl:
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but not a trigger word when WDMSO said it...
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wdmso 12-23-2018 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1157977)
oh, where is it written that we shouldn’t criticize a past choice?

Do you listen to yourself?
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you can criticize a past choice? all you want

However to use that past choice , in defence of Trump's current choice which is completely different shows a lack of understanding for the reasons people like Mattis and others have walked away

you use whataboutism to defend anything Trump does Asking the senate to change the rules you throw out harry reid as only the dems used it

In recent years, whataboutism made a comeback in Vladimir Putin's Russia, and has also seen a rise in usage by Donald Trump and his support base

Shocking

scottw 12-23-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1157990)

In recent years, whataboutism made a comeback

nope...only in like the last 6 months when you started using the term incessantly :tooth:

wdmso 12-23-2018 01:45 PM

Turkey is massing troops near a town in northern Syria held by a U.S.-backed and Kurdish-led force, a war monitor said as Turkish media reported Sunday new reinforcement crossing the borders.

wdmso 12-23-2018 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1157998)
nope...only in like the last 6 months when you started using the term incessantly :tooth:

To bad it wasn't I who made that claim

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Analysts have been dinging Trump for whataboutism for months, particularly in recent weeks.

wdmso 01-07-2019 05:07 AM

Contradicting Trump, Bolton says no withdrawal from Syria until ISIS destroyed

So Trump lied again???? say it ain't so

Pete F. 01-16-2019 10:35 AM

Four American soldiers killed today by the defeated ISIS

wdmso 01-16-2019 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1159807)
Four American soldiers killed today by the defeated ISIS

There will be no outrage like when Clinton was personally held responsible for the deaths in Benghazi

There was none over the 4 in Niger last February and I suspect there will be none for these 4 at the hands of the defeated isis there’s no political benefit for the right.

Unless it’s an illegal who kills a cop they could care less politically
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detbuch 01-16-2019 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1159807)
Four American soldiers killed today by the defeated ISIS

We were told, over and over in many ways by many Dems, that being over there, warring and killing Muslims, would just lead to the recruitment of more "radicals," jihadists, Al Qaeda, and Isis members. But now, are we to believe that we must be there to kill them in order to stop them from growing. This is confusing.

Got Stripers 01-16-2019 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1159815)
We were told, over and over in many ways by many Dems, that being over there, warring and killing Muslims, would just lead to the recruitment of more "radicals," jihadists, Al Qaeda, and Isis members. But now, are we to believe that we must be there to kill them in order to stop them from growing. This is confusing.

It is and always will be a damned if you do and damned if you don’t situation, but pulling out wholesale and allowing Putin free reign is a mistake.
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detbuch 01-16-2019 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1159839)
It is and always will be a damned if you do and damned if you don’t situation, but pulling out wholesale and allowing Putin free reign is a mistake.
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If we pull out after ISIS is totally eliminated, what is preventing Putin from having free reign at that time. Must we always stay there as some kind of buffer against him? Must we always have troops in Europe for the same reason? Must we always have troops in the Pacific Rim?

I'll play a Pete F and ask, isn't there a better way? Is there a road to worldwide free and open trade that peacefully benefits everyone? Is it at least a smidgeon bit possible that something like Trump's sort of mimicking the Teddy Roosevelt notion of walking softly with a big stick in negotiating with adversaries to replace animosity with mutually beneficial economic relations?

Is it that bad to actually, at least try, to convince Russia and China and North Korea to exchange some smaller political gifts that lead to better economic lives for all their people, and doing so without threatening to overthrow them if they do come on board?

And if that fails, maintain the big stick, and let it be known that you'll use it if the preference is to attack us rather than trade with us and our friends.


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