I'm pretty sure no one has ever said this....

Donald J. Trump
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I never said “give teachers guns” like was stated on Fake News @CNN & @NBC. What I said was to look at the possibility of giving “concealed guns to gun adept teachers with military or special training experience - only the best. 20% of teachers, a lot, would now be able to
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which has no resemblance to what you stated

I guess 20% is equal or less than are currently in schools or is it just an alternative fact
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Well, to be fair I don't think most of what Trump says makes any sense. No thought behind any of it, he just repeats the last thing he saw on FoxNews.

wtf are you talking about?

You can’t figure this out
I’ll explain it in simple terms
The president Donald Trump suggested that 20% of teachers (qualified)would carry firearms
I assume you think that is less than are currently in schools
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you wrote...and I quoted...

"I understand emotionally how one can say if there were only more people with guns the problem would be cured."

no one has said more more people with guns would "cure the problem"....

it's easy to make a false statement like that, argue against it and then claim that anyone that disagrees with you must be crazy....it's done here on a regular basis

Trump wrote..and I quote from you..."What I said was to look at the possibility of giving “concealed guns to gun adept teachers with military or special training experience - only the best. 20% of teachers"

that is an entirely reasonable statement...especially for Trump...and bears no resemblance to what you wrote and claim some have said or "one can say"

what has been said and is obvious is that if someone is shooting at you and those around you in one of these situations...your BEST chance for survival is if someone has the ability to shoot back....you may not realize it but there are a lot of people who carry concealed weapons...could be standing behind you in the grocery store...you would never know...I worked with a guy for years who was always carrying....he never shot out a ceiling tile or anything else....no one suggested forcing a bunch of teachers to carry guns and strap ammo belts across their chests like is being portrayed....I'm sure if it was ever put forward snowflake teachers and unions would freak and organize walkouts anyway....but schools would obviously be safer if it had employees, teachers or others who had the ability and training to shoot back if there were a situation.....there's that and in the Florida case...if they actually held that kid accountable rather than what did happen where a bunch of liberals were busy stroking each other and handing out awards to each other for keeping bad kids out of the criminal justice system so they could stay in the schools and terrorize their teachers and classmates...I'm not sure what "the cure" is for that kind of stupidity

interesting...

Jan 18, 2018 - A student was stabbed at New Rochelle High School, police say, the second one to be injured in a fight after a 16-year-old girl died in another stabbing last week.

Monday, December 18, 2017 Bronx school where student was stabbed to death to be shut down

Dec 19, 2017 - BROWNSVILLE, Brooklyn — A student was stabbed near a Brownsville high school and then ran inside the school for help Tuesday afternoon, officials said.

November 7th 2017 , Ga -- A 14-year-old student is being detained, while a 15-year-old is being treated for stab wounds after a stabbing this morning at Ballard-Hudson Middle School.

Jan 23, 2018 - Two Lincoln High School students stabbed each other during an altercation between the two on Tuesday, the San Diego Unified School District (SDUSD) confirmed.

Feb 22, 2018 - A Lawrenceville teen accused of stabbing his father and brother before fleeing police Wednesday afternoon had been sent home from school hours earlier for bringing a knife to campus.

Feb 25, 2018 - A first-year student in the University of New England's College of Osteopathic Medicine was stabbed to death Saturday morning inside a public library in Massachusetts.

Jan 11, 2018 - Two students have been hospitalized after police say a third student attacked them with a knife at a Prince George's County high school Thursday morning.

Mar 5, 2018 - Castroville boy, 12, in stable condition after stabbed at school. ... A student was viciously stabbed in the chest by another student at North Monterey County Middle School in Castroville Monday morning, according to deputies.

Jan 18, 2018 - A 16-year-old boy was stabbed by another student inside New Rochelle High School on Thursday morning, the third violent incident in the past eight days involving students from the school.

Jan 27, 2018 - An 18-year-old Valley Community School student reportedly stabbed another student Friday in Los Banos and was arrested for attempted murder.

Feb 19, 2018 - A student at Permian High School was stabbed three times following a fight after school on Monday.

Jan 30, 2018 - “He said, 'Well, Mom, I hope I don't get stabbed today,' ” Martinez, 47, recalled. Gianni told The Post that after the third violent incident, “Everybody was panicking. “Like, who's next? What's going to happen?” he said.

Feb 6, 2018 - Police say a 16-year-old male student from Parkdale High student was stabbed multiple times during an incident near the school grounds in Prince George's County.

Feb 19, 2018 - ODESSA, TX — A 15-year-old student has been arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, a second-degree felony. The charges against him came following a stabbing at Permian High School today.

Or are you suggesting #5

5 classic responses after mass shooting or mention of gun control

A good guy with a gun would have stopped it

Shooters target gun-free zones

No laws could have prevented the tragedy

Terrorists and criminals aren't deterred by laws

Guns are just a tool, like knives and hammers

nope...just wondering where the walkouts, marches and protests are against "Big Knife", manufacturers and sellers of knives and the NKA...you know...those who are clearly responsible and have blood on their hands

that was just a tiny sample from the past couple of months...I got bored

I think we should ban schools.

haaaaa

I was joking about the NKA...but apparently such a thing exists....

"Without a dedicated grassroots organization to protect our knives, they are an easy target for those who seek restrictions on our freedoms. Knife Rights is that dedicated grassroots organization."

Yea #5:kewl:

it's sad that you don't care about the carnage regularly being caused by knives in our nation's schools

What's sad you only cared after the protest by the students and the push back against the NRA

A 13-year-old girl in Mississippi has died after allegedly being shot by her nine-year-old brother over a video game, police say.

"He's just nine," Monroe County Sheriff Cecil Cantrell told the Clarion Ledger.

"I assume he's seen this on video games or TV. I don't know if he knew exactly what this would do. I can't answer that. I do know it's a tragedy."


he knew were the gun was an knew how to use it , but lets blame Tv and Video games ... when access is the issue

so explain to everyone how you would have prevented this tragedy

This is current day liberalism, this is almost all that it is. It's not about solving problems by addressing the root cause, it's about finding a boogeyman to rally against, and creating the illusion that everyone who isn't on the side of the liberals, is in bed with the boogeyman..it's about creating divisiveness, that's all it is.

Want secure borders? You must by a xenophobe.
Opposed to Black Lives Matter? You are a racist.
Think Christian bakers have constitutional rights? You are a homophobe.
Think unborn babies are precious? You are a sexist who hates women.
Think Islamic jihadists are an issue? You are an Islamophobe.
Think schools should not be promoting liberal rallies during school time, but instead should be, I don't know, teaching? You don't care about dead kids. Shame on you Scott. Shame on you.

And cars, too.

not had a loaded gun where a 9 year could get it .. or is that to difficult to understand

so how would you go about that in this situation?

I'm putting you in charge...how are you..Wayne...going to ensure that the parent(s) of this boy (and remember, this is Mississippi..THOSE people are really backward and stupid...it's the south) don't have a loaded gun in their house that he can access?

It's not about solving problems by addressing the root cause,

thats funny you cant even agree on what the root cause is ,,, But you just puke up every conservative talking point ,,, as if it was 2nd nature .. you must wear flip flops and tinfoil hats daily

Try thinking for yourself you might like it

Obviously he needs to organize a march on Washington and have a school walkout day.

It really is the only answer to parental stupidity.

I forgot we shall not infringe.. so my 1st idea is un expectable and accidental deaths are baked into the 2a cake ...

I am happy it wasn't a Knife he used you may have lost it

forget the second amendment...you are in charge...what would you do?

Boy you guys really need to book a ring at the local gym and have at it, getting a bit too personal in the attacks, as opposed to discussing what we personally feel is a good approach. Then we have to be honest, because nothing said or discussed here will make it's way to the white house, not unless there are changes in the way the people on capitol hill vote on gun regulations. That hasn't changed much in a very long time, although the youth coming out speaking and marching, regardless of whether you think they should be in school learning something instead, are probably making a few politicians sit up and take notice. Those same teens are going to be of voting age in the very near future and it will be interesting to see if that changes the way we as a society vote on these types of issues or on who we elect to vote for changes.

Education is underfunded to begin with, so putting money at hardening schools if it detracts from other necessary school funding, isn't money well spent. We still are talking about that one teen or that one adult who is likely known by someone to be not quite right and has access to weapons, yet they slide right under the radar until they snap. If they want into a school, there a dozens of ways in besides the front door, just pick a window. Put some money into trying hard to cure the stupid arse parents that allow these fragile teens to have access to their guns, although it's very hard to cure stupid.

I'm not suggesting guns are the problem, it's a social problem that is generating these violent attacks and the media sensationalizing each and every one IMHO only provides a push to yet another troubled teen from going out in a blaze of TV glory to make the bullies pay. I know many will cringe at my stating I see no reason for the general public to be owning assault rifles or the ability to turn them from semi to fully automatic weapons and that as we know has been beaten to the point that dead horse isn't even recognizable as a horse any longer. But that's my right as it is yours to oppose it.

I don't agree that 21 is the right age, if you can serve our country and pick up a weapon to defend our rights, you have the right to buy a gun. If you have been dishonorably discharges and have mental issues, then I think you have just blown your right to own a weapon.

I'd rather see the money people want to throw at hardening schools put into mental health programs, something to help that troubled teen cope, or campaigns to shut down the school bullying; putting metal detectors and arm guards isn't going to stop everyone of these attacks.

what are you talking about?...I just put Wayne in charge...we're awaiting his executive action.....

"thats funny you cant even agree on what the root cause is "

Give me a major issue, I'll tell you what the root cause is?

Gun violence causes - stupid parents, single parents, no parents, the internet, violence in the entertainment industry, as well as stupidly easy access to bump stocks and high capacity magazines. We have too many weapons of mass murder, but we also have a cultural problem.

"Try thinking for yourself you might like it"

I do. There are major issues on which I think liberals are right (death penalty, gay marriage, high capacity magazines). If I'm a conservative parrot, why would I feel that way?

"Education is underfunded to begin with"

Not in CT it's not. And we had a horrible school shooting. we have a lot of problems in CT, but spending too little on education, isn't one of them. We spend a fortune. It's just not being spent wisely, IMHO.

"Put some money into trying hard to cure the stupid arse parents "

THAT would improve things. But I don't know how you do it, exactly. I don't think it's a problem you solve with money.

"I'm not suggesting guns are the problem, it's a social problem that is generating these violent attacks "

Bingo.

"it's very hard to cure stupid. "

Bingo.

"something to help that troubled teen cope, or campaigns to shut down the school bullying"

Bingo.

"putting metal detectors and arm guards isn't going to stop everyone of these attacks"

Neither will making people better parents, neither will anti bullying programs... but they will help. All of your points, including armed guards, has the potential to stop some attacks.

some of these things get thrown out there as if they don't exist...

the nations schools have been running "bullying campaigns" for years....

"mental health"......a good number of these shooters are found to be on some prescribed psychological drug which means they have been seen for mental health issues and that they ARE getting "treatment"...

"Cruz had been diagnosed at various times with “developmental disorder,” “depression,” “autism” and “ADHD,” according to a Florida Department of Children and Families Services (DCFS) report." For years, Cruz had been a client at Henderson Behavioral Health in Florida, until the fall of 2017.

For years, there were reports of his self-harm, cutting his arms, trouble controlling his temper, aggression, assaulting students, verbal abuse, banging his head, and yet in 2016, a therapist with Henderson Mental Health “deemed Nikolas to be no threat to anyone or himself at this present time,” according to the police report.

Teachers disciplined him and referred him to counseling and police responded to at least 36 emergency 911 calls to his home over a six year period."

"some of these things get thrown out there as if they don't exist..."

true. I am sure we are better at reducing bullying than we used to be. But we can put a renewed emphasis on it and do better, I think that's the point.

As for Cruz, if we couldn't pick up on those red flags, then we stink.

you still haven't caught on to the intent of the post


Monroe County Sheriff Cecil Cantrell told the Clarion Ledger.

He blamed it on video games or TV. not the availability of of guns not the parents or the weapon being unsecured and loaded

but on TV and Video game .. amazing

go back to an assault weapon ban wont stop everything but those pesky numbers show it worked to reduce incidents

1994-2004, there were only 12 incidents – about one per year – due to assault weapons, totaling some 89 deaths.

In the decade following, however, both numbers spiked. From 2004-2014, there were 34 incidents involving assault weapons – and over 300 deaths.

it had nothing to do with assault weapons did it? "she had been shot with a .25 calibre handgun, according to Mississippi news source the Clarion-Ledger."

once again...


forget the second amendment...you are in charge...what would you do?

Answer the question and stop deflecting.
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He's working on it, and it's going to be epic.

Probably has fricken sharks with laser beams on their heads.
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you guys are to funny asking for solutions to a problem you insist doesn't exist .. and then try to sell yourselves a honest brokers in the conversation.. who's only response to anything gun is "Shall not infringe"

but Mississippi passes strictest abortion law.. more protection for the un born then the living but here are their fire arm requirements

long guns handguns
Background checks required for private sales? No No
Firearm registration? No No
Assault weapon law? No No
Owner license required? No No Carry permits required? No No

Change all these to yes .... but we all know nothing 100% when you start with zero expectations you have poor results

Mississippi 4th in U.S. gun deaths: must be TV and Video games and nothing to do with household gun ownership rate of 54.3

The state with the highest per capita gun death rate in 2016 was Alaska, followed by Alabama. Each of these states has extremely lax gun violence prevention laws as well as a higher rate of gun ownership, VPC said. The state with the lowest gun death rate in the nation was Massachusetts, followed by New York. Each of these states has strong gun violence prevention laws and a lower rate of gun ownership,

Damn those pesky statistics showing laws help to reduce gun deaths not eliminate guns deaths ...

Scott you have my answer on how to prevention shooting deaths in that state

Do you have a solution? or do you think there is no problem to start with

whats your answer to the same question ? Scott asked me since you dipped your toe into the water

Good answer
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