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Anything to avoid admitting that the Republicans might have a better stance on any issue. "How about instead of shouting him down and getting his appearance canceled, they show up to it, engage him in constructive debate, and show everybody, civilly, that is ideas are incorrect" Very, very well said. The reason why they don't do that, is because they can't. College kids aren't ever exposed to points of view other than liberalism, they never see liberalism challenged, so they have no idea how to defend it. Much easier to throw a brick through a window. and then still claim that you are more tolerant than the other guy. That's the part that gets me. I am a parent, I understand the impulse of babies to throw temper tantrums. What I don't understand, is that in the very next nanosecond, these rioters claim to be on the side of diversity and tolerance. Liberalism: diversity in everything, except ideas! |
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They invite Comedians to speak on campuses all the time. Is everything they say based on fact? Is everything that comes out of their mouth considered not offensive to anyone? again, if you don't like him, don't come....or show up and try to engage in a civil discourse with him. but instead we get this....real grown up of them https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...bhJ/story.html |
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Murray's views have been "discredited" (falsely in my opinion) by some, but supported by others (see the link I posted above as an "expert" example). The purpose of having him speak is to put his views on display so that the audience has some direct evidence, from his mouth to their ears, on which to help make a judgement. And, usually, if the discourse is civil and not threatened with disruptive noise or violence, there are Q & A sessions after the speech in which points and counterpoints can be clarified and discussed--civilly--if civility is allowed. Not inviting someone to speak, especially if he is "controversial," because there will be those who are "pissed #^&#^&#^&#^& is being a partner to the elimination of free speech, to the promotion of only allowing certain speech, to allowing mobs and criminals to dictate what is allowed, and to promoting ignorance and to the capture of social norms and behaviors by radical authoritarians. |
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It's OK for people to throw offensive bombs, as long as those bombs are aimed at conservatives. Paul, Ben Shapiro is another hated conservative whose appearance on campus often triggers riots. He's a staunch conservative, but he' snot a racist or a hatemonger., He's a slightly watered down version of Ann Coulter. But he's smart, and he's conservative, therefore he must be silenced. You make it sound like the only conservatives who trigger riots are Klansmen. Not so. |
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I don't think that's what Paul means (he's more fair than that), but sure as hell it's what many liberals mean. |
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I mean it more like the views of the protesters...I fixed it |
Funny that whenever there is ANY socially-charged event, one that get hyped up by the media, that there are SO MANY student protestors that feel the need to voice their opinion?
Of course you have to add the fact that some schools had "rearranged" their classes so that they could be able to protest without missing any of their "educational discussions" (aka further indoctrinations). Looking at the generations of "mental giants" some of our schools are turning out, like a conveyor belt with no quality control, it's no wonder they follow like lemmings to the sea! |
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An excellent quote from the Sowell article in the OC Register;
"Academia, however, is ground zero in the war against people whose ideas go against the current political correctness. The virtual monopoly of the political left, on campuses across the country, allows all sorts of things to be attributed to people the left disagrees with, irrespective of whether those people have ever said anything resembling what they are alleged to have said." Warren is the epitome of this school of thought where the masses are churned into an unaccepting frenzy by a fish wife. |
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people paid to hear him speak, they don't get to decide whether you should be allowed to listen. Saying that its OK to act like that is akin to giving a 2 year old that cookie to stop his temper tantrum... |
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Some may, some may have actually welcomed the chance to listen and form their own opinion of what he is saying. some may have come to behave like adults and debate his concepts. Again, nobody has the right to deny you the right to listen to somebody speak, or to deny somebody the right to speak. |
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From liberals, yes. From conservatives, no. I would like to know why that is. Why can conservatives tolerate that which offends them, but not liberals? Paul, not speaking in absolutes by any means, just generalizations, OK? |
It is stunning that someone who claims to be moral, fair minded, objective, a centrist who sees the good and bad of all sides, can flat out, without reservation, criticism, or dismay, say that irrational disorderly conduct should be expected from those who have graduated through our educational systems and are currently enrolled and taught in our higher educational institutions.
If he cannot comment on the failure of our supposedly liberal institutions to teach our children the value of free speech and polite moral behavior, then it appears that he is blind to the failure, or embraces the rude, destructive behavior as actually the right and moral thing to do--and lauds our educational system for turning out such beings. |
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If you look at all politically-motivated riots over the last 10 years (not just on college campuses), what % do you think were started by conservatives, and what % do you think were stared by liberals? Gets tiresome, Paul. A little intellectual honesty would be appreciated. If you really think that liberals don't engage in riots at a rate that is disproportionate to their portion of the population, then we should stop responding to each other altogether. |
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That is like my saying the we know the kkk is racist and supports rep. therefore all reps. are racist. If you really think that cons. don't engage in racism at a rate that is disproportionate to their portion of the population, then we should stop responding to each other altogether. |
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Wrong, wrong, wrong. I am not saying al liberals are rioters, or that all liberals support riots (though not many pundits criticize the rioters, most justify it). Again, I ask a simple question, and instead of answering, you point out some of my many flaws. Here is what I am doing. I am asking you, if liberals are more prone to riot, than conservatives. I'm not saying all liberals do it, I am not saying all liberals condone it. I am asking if politically-motivated rioting exists more commonly on the left than the right. Yes or no? I happily concede all of my shortcomings, you don't need to point them out, this is a yes or no answer. And if the answer is yes (which it obviously is), here is the real question - why? |
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Very, very few liberal politicians, and very few liberal talking heads, suggest that the rioters are wrong because even offensive conservatives have the right to speak. Every single host on Foxnews despises the Klan. How many hosts at CNN tell the college rioters to shut up and let Milo speak? |
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It's also a safe bet that most Islamic radicals vote democrat. Same with drug dealers, black panthers, and welfare cheats. So I'm not sure either party wants to be identified by the worst elements in their voting base. My point is that Republicans don't excuse the behavior of racists in their midst. But these liberal rioters, when do they ever get criticized by liberal pundits or liberal politicians? When do they ever get called fascists by liberals on CNN or ABC or NBC? |
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So you can point to as many conservative-led riots, as I can point to liberal-led riots? You really think so? Can you name a single conservative-led political riot from the last 20 years? Because if I factor in the Trump election, what happens at every college when a conservative tries to speak, what happens every time white police officer shoots a black person, I can come up with many, many examples of liberal-led riots. |
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Bullsh*t. It's the democrat machine that fuels the notion that institutional racism exists, and it's the democratic machine that perpetuates the horrible lie that white police officers are a problem. |
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Interesting opponent versus Warren. Does he have a chance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5XoMUIV5so |
You can only afford to be a liberal if your young and just starting out or poor and living on handouts. Once you start to take off, it is a luxury you can't afford. I am in favor in helping folks that legitimaly need it, I don't want people dying or living in the streets to other 3rd world countries signing up with the Russians or Chinese. It would be great to cut taxes for all of us. What could you do with an extra 5 or 10 k of your own hard earned money. I live in Mass. This is a list of taxes I have to pay.
Real estate tax sales tax federal Tax social security tax Auto Excise Tax Mooring Tax trash pick fee dump fee sports fees school bus fee medicare tax unemployment tax Equipment Tax cell phone tax What I could do with that extra money. What you could do with that extra money. What a world. |
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I think Warren has set her sights higher than the US Senate. Me think-um that Princess Spreading Bull wants to live in teepee of Great White Chief. Ugh. I am very happy this post got brought back to life. |
each party's version of bat-#^&#^&#^&#^& crazy on the same ballot. Yeah, that would be just friggin awesome.
I'm just gonna vote myself off the island :wall: |
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Try walking in a Marine's shoes....... It is an indoctrination, not an education. I'm done if you can't see it
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Your party is embracing the exact opposite, and I mean the absolute exact opposite, of what Martin Luther King hoped for. Your side has created a political point of view, where all that matters, are the superficial differences between us. Your side is doing that, because their ideas are so idiotic, they can only win by playing identity politics. So instead of debating why Senator Tom Cotton is wrong on a given issue, liberals talk about why he is evil. Much easier to demonize him, than to attempt to make him wrong. |
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