AFP: No, Pentagon says, Obama will not be guarded by 34 ships

At least 5.2 million a day. Realistic number. I'm guessing more. I'm betting doubt they had to move 1 mile of tunnel there in a day? Or was this whole thing planned moons ago and we've really spent the $200 million planning this over the last year.

Conspiracy Theory.

I know Spence hey it's the best I could do to entertain you for the day.

What is scary is how hard rush, hannity and beck pushed it. Can't believe they weren't lying.
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Only s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g sound I hear right now is the one out of my wallet while Clammato and his sidekick Marcia make sweet love in Mumbai

:bshake: :humpty: :smokin: :yawn:

"The White House bluntly dismissed the cost estimate, and said that the price tag for security was similar to trips for previous presidents, without offering a specific figure."

CNN did, FOI showed previous president trips was costing somewhere around $5.2million per day for a similar trip. So probably close to double that today...

That's 100 million dollars for this trip NO BULLSH IT

So what's the point? That a president shouldn't make state visits where it's in our interest?

You're doing a lot of whining.
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200 mil a day
3000 people with him
40 planes
34 war ships
They are renting the whole Tajmahal
and they are clearing the place of coconuts so they couldn't fall on Obama's head !

I'd say 7 mil/per day.... and that's a liberal estimate

So $70 million dollars for another vacation....

Spence I can't believe you even ask what the point is. Dood your delusional if you think it's ok that this kind of money is being spent to do these trips.

Putting my severe distaste for this jackass since day one aside.....It's wrong. For anyone.

It's DISGUSTING to think of the tax money I've paid in the past few years and it's being put to GREAT use.

And how exactly is this in our interest? Because of selling them these airplanes? Sorry Charlie they ain't payin #^&#^&#^&#^&. They will go down owing us the money just like any other times something gets sold. How much do they already owe us?

:smash:

I think if we spend 7 mil. a day for the rest of his term to keep him busy we will come out ahead in the end.

someone with a little time should make a list of "Obama's Greatest Expenses"..

this was the guy that requested more earmarks than any other Senator

THE MOST expensive campaign in history and the LAVISH spending on food and booze is well documented

THE MOST expensive innauguration in history

THE MOST EXPENSIVE agenda in history

THE MOST expensive date night in history

THE MOST expensive trips abroad and frequent vacations in history

PERPETUAL lavish parties at the Whitehouse

UNNECESSARY jaunts on Air Force One..Chicago Olympics

FLIES his freakin' dog on it's own plane?????

THIS trip is way over the top and not justified in any way...in fact very questionable for a lot of reasons

There are more examples...


all the while talking about how Americans need to tighter their belts during tough economic times


hey PAUL...that is HYPOCRICY !

This isn't a vacation, perhaps that why you're so confused?

-spence

Spence is correct..he is bringing along 36 pairs of teleprompters...although, those might be for bedtime stories for the kids or pillow talk with Michelle...never know :rotf2:

I was just reading this:

WASHINGTON — US President Barack Obama leaves the wreckage of his Democratic Party's election hammering for the refuge of foreign policy on Friday, setting off on a nine-day odyssey to Asia.

Obama will visit India, his boyhood home of Indonesia, South Korea for the G20 summit and then Japan for APEC meetings, seeking to broaden US geopolitical influence and win new markets for American products in the dynamic region.

With an eye on US voters back home, who used mid-term elections to send a cry of distress over the sluggish recovery, Obama will stress the commercial opportunities offered by Asia, as he seeks to boost exports to create jobs.

"The primary purpose (of the India trip) is to take a bunch of US companies and open up markets so that we can sell in Asia and some of the fastest-growing markets in the world, and we can create jobs here in the United States of America," Obama told reporters on Thursday.

"My hope is that we've got some specific announcements that show the connection between what we're doing overseas and what happens here at home when it comes to job growth and economic growth."

Obama, who has dubbed himself America's "First Pacific president" has made no secret that he sees Asia, with its fast-emerging economies and rising strategic clout, as the most vital global region to America's future.


sooooo, US companies aren't already doing business in Asia???
they can't expand or increase business in Asia without Obama and a giant entourage ???
hey Obaba, they don't need you in the way...GET THE %^CK OUT OF THE WAY!!!
YOU ARE INCOMPETENT!!!

We should be cozying up with India more than most anyone. They are a massive, vibrant democracy, with growing capital, educational, and intellectual possibilities. They share a border with the more massive, vibrant totalitarianist / communists, with growing capital, educational, and intellectual possibilities. They also need help in many areas and we could stand to benefit from help in many areas.

As our current allies in Europe fade somewhat in significance and as the world balance moves to the east, we would be well versed in building solid relationships with emerging powers and extending / reestablishing relations with current partner nations, Japan, SK, Aus, Indonesia, Indo China.

Agree 100% and he can't do this by staying home.

While Bush was focused on his social engineering project China was locking in contracts. We're already at a disadvantage in this regard.

Perhaps Obama could try Priceline.com to make Salty happy.

-spence

unnecessary and expensive dog and phony show strategically timed :uhuh:

This would be a great trip for the Chamber of Commerce to be involved in. I doubt they were invited though

A shot at Bush....that isn't like you:biglaugh:

indeed...Crony Capitalists only on this excursion...I'm expecting O to to a lot of bowing and begging them on bended knee to buy our debt....

November 06, 2010
The Keynesians Get Their Wish
By Peter Raymond

The Keynesians finally got their wish. The Federal Reserve plans to inject $600 billion dollars of the most caustic debt imaginable into the economy. This is the Agent Orange of monetary policies that has the potential to wreak financial havoc.


In the hope of generating inflation, the central bank is going to enable deficit spending by buying treasury bonds. You read that correctly; the primary goal is to erode the value of the dollar, and we get to watch our currency and wealth literally dissolve before our eyes.


Only a desperate government would consider debasing its own currency. The resulting inflation will be an insidious tax on every American who will suffer as wages lag behind increasing prices. It is doubtful countries like China will react favorably to the precipitous drop in the value of the debt owed to them.


This strategy of monetary sabotage will punish savers and creditors, but Keynesians simply will not tolerate anything that impedes deficit spending. Since deflation hamstrings spending, they will stop at nothing to reverse deflationary pressures.




On June 28, 1978, Federal Reserve Board Member Henry C. Wallich addressed the graduating class at Fordham University. "Inflation," he informed the graduates, "is a means by which the strong can more effectively exploit the weak. The strategically positioned and well-organized can gain at the expense of the unorganized and aged."

There are no 34 warships going. It is not $200 mil per day.

You know I am not a big O fan by any stretch - this one he should do. Though skip the tunnel and Coconuts. :devil2:

MUMBAI, India — President Barack Obama announced a host of new trade deals with India supporting tens of thousands of U.S. jobs Saturday as he began a 10-day trip through Asia on a determinedly domestic note.

Intent on demonstrating his attention to the sluggish U.S. economy even while overseas, Obama also told a meeting of U.S. and Indian executives that the U.S. would relax some export regulations that have complicated trade between America and this fast-growing country of 1.2 billion people.

HOCUS POCUS.

come back here next year and show me the jobs this created HERE.

I will buy you a steak dinner.

As is the case with U.S. national-security matters, Obama, if he is clever enough to do so, has the opportunity here to profit from sound investments made by the administration of George W. Bush, whose cultivation of New Delhi was one of the great unsung diplomatic success stories of the era. The Bush administration’s careful negotiation of the U.S.-India nuclear accord was the key to thawing the sometimes chilly relationship between the world’s two largest democratic republics, an unhappy relic of India’s regrettable Cold War cuddling with the Soviet Union, back when socialism was chic.

I can appreciate you position John, as someone who can see the political center from your livingroom:)

Barack Obama, Dealmaker - The Editors - National Review Online

And your point is :huh: ? Can't tell if that was snarky or not :devil2:

(and yes, you won't hear from the left how much of the groundwork was laid out by Bush admin or how the Bush admin has probably prevented 2 wars between Pak and India)

no, not snarky...you mentioned recently that you could at least "still see the center"....perhaps suggesting that I cannot so I was appreciating your perspective coming from someone that might be more "centered"...and then a little Sarah Palin humor thrown in :uhuh:

put EDWINA back in da bowl

"The commercial deals he announced include the purchase of 33 737s from Boeing by India's SpiceJet Airlines; the Indian military's plans to buy aircraft engines from General Electric; and preliminary agreement between Boeing and the Indian Air Force on the purchase of 10 C17s.

For the most part, the deals were already pending, but the White House contends Obama's visit to India helped finalize them. Officials said the deals would support 53,670 U.S. jobs, but it was not clear how many, if any, new jobs would be created as a result."

I'll stand by what I said earlier. So the Govt spent $100 million to send his highness and his royal queen over there and it was already penned.

Sure. All hail King Obama. :fart2:

HOCUS POCUS

10 c17s keep that line open for a while - ge engines keep lots of jobs open
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Bomb-proof tunnel with air conditioning: Obama's security go to extraordinary measures for his tour of the Gandhi museum
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 3:08 PM on 6th November 2010


American warships to patrol off Mumbai during visit
Coconuts removed from trees as a precaution

250 U.S. business executives with Obama on 'biggest ever trade mission'
$200million Asia trip cost denied but the President will have huge entourage

President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle arrived in India's commercial hub of Mumbai on Saturday, days after voters punished his Democrats in mid-term elections.
Probably not since the days of the Pharaohs or the more ludicrous Roman Emperors has a head of state travelled in such pomp and expensive grandeur as the President of the United States of America.
While lesser mortals – the Pope, Queen Elizabeth and so on – are usually happy to let their hosts handle most of the security and transport arrangements when they venture beyond their home shores, the United States creates a mini-America on the move to ensure that nothing is left to chance.

The President and First Lady clasped hands as they arrived in Mumbai Saturday morning with their huge entourage

Obama arrives in India at the start of a ten-day tour of Asia. At the heart of the White House caravan is ‘The Beast’, a gigantic, ‘pimped-up’ General Motors Cadillac which security experts say is, short of an actual battle tank, probably the safest road vehicle on the planet.
But an outlandish car is only the start. Mr Obama will fly, of course, on Air Force One, the presidential private jumbo jet, which, boasting double beds and suites, is fitted out more like a luxury yacht. Some reports suggest it costs around $50,000 (£31,000) an hour to operate.

Of course threats can come from any direction, so a squadron of U.S. naval ships will patrol offshore. Some reports have claimed that 34 ships, including two aircraft carriers, will be involved (not far off the size of the Royal Navy’s entire Surface Fleet) but the White House has denied this.
The pair were greeted wtih flowers and gifts as they stepped off the plane

On land, as well as The Beast, Mr Obama’s entourage will travel in a fleet of 45 U.S.-built armoured limousines, half of which will be decoys. He will also travel with 30 elite sniffer dogs, mostly German Shepherds.
The White House has, according to some reports, booked the entire Taj Mahal Palace Hotel in Mumbai, the city’s most luxurious. It is not uncommon for the grander heads of state to reserve a floor or two, but a whole hotel is unprecedented.

Read more: Obama's India visit security erect a bomb proof tunnel at the Gandhi museum | Mail Online

My company is a big supplier to GE aircraft, and GE sources a lot of components from many companies right here in New England.

Not only that, but there's a huge strategic aspect to this. If India is going to source military aircraft from the US rather than France or Russia it's a signal of a serious long-term alignment.

Salty can bitch all he wants about trivial or false stories he's consumed himself with on Drudge, but the fact still remains that Obama looks to be doing the right thing to further American interests.

-spence

But he still is spending at least 5 million a day maybe as high as 20 million to go play spank the monkey with the missus.

And THAT you can't deny Spence.

like I said...Crony Capitalists

Crony Capitalist of the Month: Jeffrey Immelt

By Jeff Harding, on September 24th, 2010

The Daily Capitalist is kicking off the first in a monthly series of the Crony Capitalist of the Month. In it we will feature mainline “capitalists” who see government favors to support their businesses. This series starts off with General Electric’s Jeff Immelt.

If you wonder why the economy is stagnating, one reason is crony capitalism whereby businesses align with the government to create policies that are favorable to their industries. Usually benefits such as tax breaks or government contracts are awarded to these government favored industries. Capital is thereby diverted to enterprises that, but for the favors, wouldn’t be economically viable. Thus capital which is needed by businesses that are profitable is reduced, which reduces economic growth.

Crony capitalists use rhetoric that is often high-toned and talk in generalities about certain “essential” industries and ”national goals” that “we” need in America or otherwise “America” will lose out. They favor government handouts because it is in their benefit and because they can’t compete in the open market. ”America” isn’t falling behind the competition, GE is falling behind:


The remarks came as GE is facing tougher competition around the world from rivals in the markets for renewable and nuclear energy that the company believes get more help from their governments.

“The rest of the world is moving 10 times faster than we are,” Mr. Immelt said, referring to the U.S. during a speech at the Gridwise Global Forum. “This is a great country. But, you know, we have to have an energy policy. This is just stupid what we have today.” …

GE has long expressed frustration with what it sees as a lack of government support for new energy technologies in the U.S. and for sales of nuclear power and other technologies overseas. The conglomerate’s nuclear unit has won little business in the current round of reactor development around the world, and its wind-power unit faces heavy competition from Chinese manufacturers.

Accompanied by his swans, bears and tapestries, he moved continually from one of his castles to another...taking part in local processions and pilgrimages, visiting monasteries, enjoying wine harvests in autumn, and sending home to the Duchess on one occasion in June new peas, cherries and 78 ripe pears....The funds to gratify his tastes were wrung from the people of Auvergne, and of Languedoc when he was its governor, by the heaviest taxation in France of his time, sowing the hatred and misery that resulted in the insurrection of Montpellier and his own recall.

Any President probably burns a few million a day just hanging around the Oval Office, domestic trips.

The fact is he's furthering American interests, representing us at the G20 etc...this is his job as our leader.

You just want to bitch and whine.

-spence

Crony capitalists use rhetoric that is often high-toned and talk in generalities about certain “essential” industries and ”national goals” that “we” need in America or otherwise “America” will lose out.:rotf2:

Ok yea you got me.

:easy:

"His visit may appear to be popular among Indian people, but much of Mumbai's workforce can't wait for Barack Obama to leave.

just found this in the NY Times... interesting title

November 5, 2010, 7:41 am
Obama Recasts Asia Trip as Jobs Mission
By MICHAEL D. SHEAR

Talk about bad timing.

Just days after American voters sent President Obama a blunt and angry message about their desire to see him do more to fix the economy, Mr. Obama was preparing to head overseas on Friday morning on a 10-day foreign trip to Asia.

The president will go to India, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan on a mission that will involve issues of global security, international trade and economics, improving cultural ties, preventing terrorism and some personal diplomacy. He will dine with foreign leaders, give a speech about Muslim outreach and attend summits on global finance.

But in the days since the midterm elections, Mr. Obama and his senior aides have found a much more simple way to describe the purpose of the trip.

It’s about American jobs, they say.
thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/.../obama-recasts-asia-trip-as-jobs-mission/

If the pres doesn't go do this as a high-profile effort. Who should - Dept of Commerce, Foreign Affairs, State

I think it legit and good use of the office.

Now if he would only let us get the F out of Aghanistan by letting India and Pakistan play it would really help our deficeit