Lo Duca was named

"...16 Yankees, past and present, were identified..."

LMAO.. your right about that.... not even self control!

Yankees*. "Somebody needs to take those cheaters out" :jester:

It's played for the love of money $$$

I respectfully disagree. This steroid/drug culture has permeated MLB for many years, most likely predating Selig's Brewers ownership. Where were Euberoth(sp?), Kuhn, Giamatti, Vincent, etc? It's my opinion that the fault lies with Donald Fehr and the players association. Remember the strikes and lockouts? If they had agreed to adequate drug testing years ago, the problem would not have grown.

Don't get me wrong, Selig has made mistakes (many actually). But at least he's addressing it.

Oh well, I will still be a basball fan, probably for life.

the players union should take alot of this blame - jackarses! :gorez:

Steroids have been around baseball for at least 30 years, maybe even longer.

Remember when Freddy Lynn showed up at spring training sporting about 15 pounds of added muscle and ripped forearms, and attributed it to "Nautilis machines"?

All those "bash brothers" on the 80s A's with those tight pants showing ripped quads?

George Brett going from a Boggs-type singles hitter to a slugger, and the way his eyes were bulging out of his skull as he threw a fit over the pine tar incident?

I even heard a couple of talking heads speculating that steroids were the reason that Nolan Ryan could throw no-hitters in his mid-40s.

Certainly, in the last 20 years, we've seen players perform at unprecedented levels into sports' version of their geriatric years.

And I would be willing to bet that the problem is 100 times worse in the NFL. Take a look at the playing weights of the guys in Canton, who played in the 60s and 70s, and compare them to linemen's weights today. Do you realize that John Hannah only weighed 265 pounds? Mike Webster weighed less than 250. Today there probably isn't a starting lineman in the entire NFL who weighs less than 300 lbs. You have guys like Ogden and Pace who weigh in closer to 400 lbs than 300 :doh: Most division 1-A college teams have offensive lines that average over 300 lbs. Are we to believe that this huge disparity in the space of one generation is the result of mama's home cookin' and better training regimens? :hs:

When money is involved cheating will happen, sports, business, taxes, you name it it happens. I am not surprised by any of it. Hell it has been a staple of the Olympics for decades. Remember the East German women athletes
that needed shaves. The Olympics and Tour De France have some to the strictest testing around and they still do it.

I also found this little blurb poking around the internet--it does make you wonder:

"In spite of his focus on physical fitness, Ryan suffered a heart attack on April 25, 2000, and had to receive a double coronary bypass"

Tom House May 2005
Admitted Using: Steroids (Non-specific)
What he said: In a telephone interview with San Fransisco Chronicle reporter, Ron Kroichick, House admitted to using steroids 'for a couple of seasons' during his career (1971-1978). House estimated that six or seven pitchers on every staff in baseball were experimenting with steroids in the 1970's. This was, and still is, the earliest account of steroid use in baseball. House's admission and comments are from a May 3, 2005 San Fransisco Chronicle article entitled House a 'failed experiment' with steroids.

I wonder if the juice helped him catch Aaron's 715th HR.