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Originally Posted by basswipe (Post 435681)

How is this flawed?Explain.

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And yes the life you enjoy IS IN VIOLATION of Islamic law.

No, it really isn't. Because some cleric or Islamic leader makes an anti-US statement in the hopes of inciting people doesn't mean they speak for Islam.

I'll let the anecdotal evidence speak for itsself. 1.4 BILLION Muslims in the world today and how many are really out to do you and my families harm? A handfull perhaps...

Of the several MILLION Muslims living in the United States, even in Tiverton, Rhode Island...how many have resorted to violence in the name of Islamic Law?

You'd think we'd be dodging stones on the way to Grand Central Market!

Either they aren't very serious about their religion or the statement is flawed.

-spence

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 435689)

I'm well aware of what has happened to Armenian people over the years...but I'd also add that those same Turks (who still deny any genocide amazingly enough) have one of the most successful moderate democratic governments in the Islamic world!

No, it really isn't. Because some cleric or Islamic leader makes an anti-US statement in the hopes of inciting people doesn't mean they speak for Islam.

I'll let the anecdotal evidence speak for itsself. 1.4 BILLION Muslims in the world today and how many are really out to do you and my families harm? A handfull perhaps...

Of the several MILLION Muslims living in the United States, even in Tiverton, Rhode Island...how many have resorted to violence in the name of Islamic Law?

You'd think we'd be dodging stones on the way to Grand Central Market!

Either they aren't very serious about their religion or the statement is flawed.

-spence

Are you on Crack?The most successful democratic Islamic government?!Please don't insult me or my ancestors.The Turks "success" as you put it is on the backs and DEATHS of Armenians.Don't speak of what you have no clue about.You are not an Armenian and have never been there and seen how they've lived for the past 100yrs since the Turks committed their genocide.I have seen it.My parents,grand-parents and great grand-parents LIVED it.

You speak of 1.4 billion Muslims.That's 1.4 million people who don't live like you.

Again isn't it just enough to believe?Answer:no.When it comes to organized religion the old adage "its my way or the highway".

I will not respond to this thread again.My suggestion to you Spence is never speak of Armenian Genocide ever again until you speak to an Armenian(who lived it).And if you say you have already then that makes you a...

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Originally Posted by basswipe (Post 435694)

I didn't say "the most"...I said one of the most...and Turkey is a pretty serious US ally...regardless of what abuse or tragedy the Armenian people have endured under their abuse...this is still the fact and a serious component to current events.

Stating this doesn't lessen the suffering of the Armenian people one bit. Perhaps even it amplifies it as most Americans don't have a clue as to what an Armenian is! Seriously...

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You speak of 1.4 billion Muslims.That's 1.4 million people who don't live like you.

It's a lot more than that.

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I will not respond to this thread again.My suggestion to you Spence is never speak of Armenian Genocide ever again until you speak to an Armenian(who lived it).And if you say you have already then that makes you a...

I'd add that 1/2 of my family is Jewish and I'm actually a member of the Cherokee tribe. While I'd admit you may have closer ties to such suffering, it's not a monopoly.

But to the point. What happened in Turkey during WWI, while important in it's context, doesn't seem to be a major contributor to recent events.

-spence