The question is this- does god think that violence is the answer to all of lifes disputes?

"The atheists".

I can taste the venom in your words already.You give atheists way to much credit.You don't even understand us.You spell it with a capital "A" because you can't help but help but look at atheism but as a "religion".You simply don't get it.

My belief is this:I'm born...I live...I die.The end.Interfere with the part between "born" and "die" I'll let you know.GET IT.

religion...... :hidin:

The morons who want to ban jesus,joseph and mary at christmas or people who want to fly planes into buildings are equally as stupid.

All I want to do is to do is live and die without people imposing god or religion on myself or this planet.Why?The end result is always negative.

Geez ..This seems like another thread gone wild...Lighten up guys....It was a good story...Freikin lighten up everyone...Relax...Dont take evryting so seriously... :eek5:

yup. i will bs about politics, but religion is taaaabooooo :bo:

Could you imagine a jehovas witness coming to my door right now.

When I was done he'd be having a beer and a shot.And on the phone looking for a hooker

NOW THAT's a joke.

Only if you're talking tax exempt status for the church :bl:

Seriously Wipe, I think you may be a little O2 depleted from catching all those schoolies this fall. Stalin's carnage was political and had little to nothing to do with religion.

-spence

I would love for you to say that to my grandparents.Folks who are not of that generation and did not live there simply don't know.My grandparents suffered for one reason and one reason only and it had absolutely nothing to with Stalin's politics but more because of my grandparents religious beliefs.

I'm assuming because they were Jewish?

-spence

Am I missing something here ??? Boy did this take a turn... :eyes:

jewish liberals :lasso:

Basswipe is one pissed off atheist! Dude chill out just a little. i thought i was getting worked up on this topic but you are just going nuts. Nice to see you see some value in Christmas though...You use a Christian holiday when you can get free stuff. be a true atheist and dont celebrate xmas and dont recieve any gifts. And your buddy Bob's first post used the phrase "brain washed christians" or something like that. Clearly a statement made to piss off Christians.

:lurk:

Actually, I don't need to be covered for anything, because even though I DO have a god, I don't believe in an afterlife of any kind. I believe that when you're dead, it's over. I don't believe in "sin" or any other human concept associated with relgion. The god of MY understanding "covers" me NOW, while I'm alive and here. To me, god is simply some sort of force in the universe and has more to do with science than any man made, arbitrary religious rules. I call it god because it's a convienient word. It's amusing to me that you can be so narrow minded and that you think that everyone's beliefs simply MUST fit into some sort conventional pidgeonhole, and that it's impossible for individuals to come up with thier OWN ideas.
Even though I have a god, I also believe that any and all references to god should be removed from all govt instituions wether it be schools, currency, or what have you, unless they could find a way to show that said references don't refer to any particular god, and we all know differently. Everyone knows that the god referred to in these references is the Christian God, and I find that to be offensive.
As for my use of the word "hell", it was used metaphorically, as in; at times, "my life has been a living hell". Don't try to tell me that you've never said, "What the hell this, or what the hell that...".
Uhh ohh.. you said hell! You really AREN'T an atheist after all!

Got to disagree with you on that one...War is ALWAYS about stuff, whether it be Money, Land, or other economically valuable items. Which all pretty much equal money.

When Hitler marched into France it wasn't to exterminate the Jews or force his religious views....it was to take France over...period

In the civil war I'm sure it wasn't the poor southerners that were financing the soldiers weapons, food, and clothes. A lot of "donations" came in from the wealthy slave owners that were afraid of losing their 'Free Labor" and their wealth when it happened.


And Eben's right....never argue religion. The only way to PROVE your right is to "Walk into the Light". I'm not ready to prove anything yet :D

ABSLOTULEY!

If they be offerin' free stuff I be takin'!That doesn't mean I celebrate xmas it just means I take ADVANTAGE of it.Its like taking Columbus day off,the 1st humans stepped foot in North America over 17,000 yrs ago yet the reason for holiday is meaningless.Why buy a car on certain holidays?Why..cuz the deals are good and you're taking ADVANTAGE of those deals.Simple.

And btw my girlfriend is a christian and since we are madly in love and this is America I participate because she asks it.A reason to consume beer and good food and get free goodies because of someone's b-day whos' very exsistance is questionable...you bet.

Nah.Christians living in a society(Soviet that is) where any beliefs were a threat
so they left.Ended up in beautiful Beirut Lebanon until the Syrians(muslims) and the Israelis(jews) invaded and laid waste to entire country over religious views.

Not even gonna bother.

Anyways..............its all about the almighty Striper!

faith is nice for me because it gives hope of something after death. if you can live everyday under the belief that you will slip into an abyss and are ok with that, more power to you.

Hmm, never saw this thread before. It would take me all night to compose a proper response though so I'm not going to bother. But it's seriously tempting... :devil:

I didn't pay attention to this after my post
 

To whomever...
No I don't think athieist are any better or worse than me. I treat everybody the same. Couldn't give a rats arse whether you go to church or not. As far as the rest of my post about the crusades and Stalin I'll stand by what I said, but thier is much more to what I have to say in regard to whether an established religon or lack of plays any part in people dying in war or did religon start a war.
While greed, egomaniacal behavior and many assorted personality disorders have started many more conflagrations than any religon I firmly believe that as a means to an end religon was used and is currently used to enflame the unintelligent and downtrodden members or certain societies to keep them fighting and in the fold. Certainly in Iraq with al-zaquari (?) and with bin ladin wherever he is religon is only a means to an end. It is the best network of non-personel communication these tyrants have. None of these tyrants need to speak with any of thier undelrings other than an occasional message to them on Al-Jazeera or the local mosque to keep them fighting. However, I am sure that they do chat each other up. I am referring to the poor and mislead people that to them just belonging to the fringe of any terrorist group is the closest thing to a real family they have.
Go to church or don't go to church. Have a god or don't have a god. As long as you find peace everyday in what you do. Priceless......

Then Why did you even bother typing anything at all.... :doh:

Just to get THAT response.

Its always about the last word with religious folks.

C'mon take the bait.......you know you want to.

Is it winter?

There are some lonely people on this site who just wanna get off talkin bout something they have not a clue about.

Here is a big L....

Also - please keep in mind that a conversation over the 'puter usually does not transpire as it would over a beer...

:huh: yeah....but I'm not one of the guys taking the religious point of view in this thread.






Besides, When me and the wife fight I ALWAYS get the last word......"Yes, Dear" :D

How can something that doesn't exist be responsible for anything? hmmmm?