Dan Fisherman,
Do you know the Pats regular season record going back to 1960?

Re: OOOPPPSSSS
 

Hey Dave,
I checked out that site,
I couldn't help to notice that the pats are #4 on the list for most consecutive playoff losses from 1963 - 1982 :laughs: :laughs:

I also noticed my team is at the top of most list like most wins, most playoff games, ect........:p

The Pats record stunk, the stadium stunk, most of the coaches stunk and Tony Eason really stunk. But ther were great players too, Steve Grogan and his bootleg runs, John Hannah, Stanley Morgan, Stan Cunningham, Drew Bleadsoe, Ben Coates I know I'm missing a lot more,but without living in the valley for so long the climb up to the peak never would of been so sweet, world champs 2 of last 3 years have been the greatest.
Now they go back to work!!!!!

Ron You are a Sox fan right?

Steve Grogan ,Sam Cunnincham, Drew Bledsoe Great players:laughs: :laughs:
John Hannah Was great, (but his brother Charlie has a ring from playing with the Raiders :laughs: )
Stanley Morgan was Very good!
Steve Nelson was Great! (should be in the hall of fame!)
Ben coats was good!
Mike Haynes was great for the Raiders !!!
As for the Sox,
I root for them, but I know
Just like in my grand fathers and my farthers lifetime,
I will NEVER see them win !!!

Ok maybe a stretch, but there's not a Raider alive that could take as many hits as Bledsoe and Grogan

Can you say
Super Bowl 15 MVP Jim Plunkett :laughs: :laughs: :laughs:
Great draft pick by the Pats:laughs: A strong armed, statue of a quarterback, who gets drafted by the Pats, and their coach wants him to run the wish bone offense and run!!!

Alot of bad coaches. In the new age of salary cap football, what the Patriots have done is remarkable, lets see what the rest of the nfl can do, and we won 15 straight games with how many injuries? Including all the games without big Ted Washington. Can't look back though, now with a legit running back we could be back to back champs.

Here's an Interesting Stat

In the Past 20 years

Superbowl Appearances

Raiders - 1
Patriots - 4

Superbowls won

Raiders - 0
Patriots - 2

It's a shame that only 1 every 10 years the Raiders and Pats play in the regular season!
I was at the old DUMP in foxboro back in I think 1997 for the last game.
Wana guess who won that game ;)
Drew didn't look too good in that game!!!

Another Stat

The Raiders and the Patriots have met 3 times in the Playoffs

Patriots have won 2-1

And in Lifetime head to head meetings the Raiders do own the advantage 15-14-1 (not exactly Overwelming) :D

You're forgetting the AFL Championship losses to the Chargers back in the early 60s.

Sid Gillman was the Bill Walsh of his day with his great offense!

I caught a real nice 60 LB cod back in 1976, isn't that exciting something really good over 30 years ago. Lets get all excited about that. At least I can admit mu mistakes and admit who the good teams are when they are there. Games many years ago are useless. To me that is like saying we had the greatest hitter of all times, Ted Williams and look where the Sox have beent he last decade. It doesn't matter we had ted or the Babe. It is all about the new millenium and once again the PATS have won two out of the last three years. Ron, it's OK to be a fan of another team but don't beat up on the local team when they are proven and have alot of depth.

Dave

Dave,
Ted Williams was a great hitter but definitely not the greatest!!!
The Yankees had atleast 4 better, and all of them were great team players !!!
Ronnie

ronnie, at least 4 better than #9 ? - who?

Ruth
Gehrig
Dimagio
Mantle
and Mantle could have been the best of them all if he didn't drink !

Ted Williams lost 5 of the primest years of a players career to military service Ron.....can you take a stab at what his numbers would have been like or Red Sox history might have been like had he gotten to play those 5 seasons!:confused: I would take Williams any day over those 4 guys Ron and anyone who wouldn't does not know their baseball! Williams stats are far and away superior to those other players in power, and average and runs batted in and on base percentage!!! The Mick was a great player......but Williams was head and shoulders a better ball player than Mantle!:D My .02 cents!

Just how many world series or division titles did Ted win ?
How many of his team mates did he make better also, NONE !!!
He raised some great kids though !!!:laughs:

Here are the numbers......
 

AB Hits Homers BA RBI
Ted Williams 7706 2654 521 .344 1839

Babe Ruth 8399 2873 714 .342 2211

Mickey Mantle 8102 2415 536 .298 1509

Lou Gehrig 8001 2721 493 .340 1995

Joe Dimaggio 6821 2214 361 .325 1537


Look at those numbers and I wonder why the hell Dimaggio is in the Hall at all! I can name a few players with much better numbers who should be in but never will be! As far as the other players number of at-bats and the homer, hit, BA, and RBI and Williams had it all over them........what say you Ron? Add to that the fact that Williams missed those five years.....don't want to hear about Mantles drinking and Dimaggio's injuries.....Mantle made a choice to drink (his problem) and Dimaggio's injuries....hey, it happens!:happy:

Ron, don't give me that arguement cause' it don't fly........you said great hitters.....that is based on their play, not on how many rings they have!

Your words Ron....."Great Hitters"!;)

I thought this was a football thread?:smash:

All those Yankees were great "team players" Ron because they had great teams......by the way!;)

Shall I go on "shreading" your defense?:gorez:

Footbal terminology cause' its a football thread!;)

Hello.......is anyone there?:eyes:

Larry,
You trying to get to 5000 post tonight!!!:laughs:

I guess those numbers spoke volumes....I am done here.....post number 4,122! :D

Larry,
I'de keep posting replys,
But I'm busy tying up some new cod teasers!!!;)

;) :D :happy:

Mnatle's drinking didn't stop him...it was his knees. But stuff happens. Williams was a better hitter.

I was only Counting From Superbowl 1 on through the Years.

Ted Williams facts
 

MLB


1939 Rookie of the Year Award

1942 American League Triple Crown

1946 Most Valuable Player Award

1947 American League Triple Crown

1949 Most Valuable Player Award

1958 Silver Slugger Award

1966 Baseball Hall of Fame Induction




17 All-Star Game Player Honors

1953 All-Star Game First Ball Honor

12 Career Batting Title Honors

1946 World Series Game Honor

1999 Baseball All-Century Team Honor

1999 All-Star Game Honors Ted


Military

Air Medals (Qty. 3)

Navy Unit Commendation

Presidential Medal of Freedom

American Campaign Medal (Awarded for WWII service in the Americas. )

Asian-Pacific Campaign Medal (Awarded for WWII service in the Asian-Pacific theater.)

World War II Victory Medal

National Defense Service Medal

Korean Service Medals

Republic of Korea Presidential Unit Citation

United Nations Medal



Top Gunnery Honor

Wingman Honor

U.S. Marine Corps Sports Hall of Fame


And he is Also inducted in The IGFA Fishing Hall of Fame


Sorry, but none of those other guys you mentioned can measure up to that

I clicked on thinking this was about Football Tuna :D