Originally Posted by spence (Post 1197879)

This is kind of stupid, absentee ballots are marked and receive expedited treatment.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1197881)

Tweety was kidding and now you can tell me how he was kidding about this also.
That "full and complete" health care plan that Tweety promised he will sign by Aug 2.
Such a joke(r)

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1197878)

Which is true. There was no action nor an attempt at action to postpone the election. It is not a crime or impeachable offense to ask, especially when there is evidence that there are kinks in the postal service that could taint the voting. Even more so during the backup of mailing because of the Covid. I've had problems getting mail that I'm waiting for, which comes way later than usual. I had a backup on my mailed in insurance premium payment which finally arrived after several calls. There's this short video of a simulated batch of mailed votes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1197882)

I didn't say he was kidding.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1197885)

This time you didn’t but Senator Cornyn did.
Meanwhile, the U.S. Postal Service is experiencing backlogs of mail after a top Tweety donor running the agency put in place new procedures, alarming postal workers who warn that the policies could undermine their ability to deliver ballots on time.
If you can’t win cheat
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1197889)

Here’s how Tweety’s gaslighting works, same way it did with his phone call, Mueller and his birther game.
It’s less than 100 days to Election Day, it’ll be easy to keep track
1) Stake a claim: In this case, President Trump has decided to cast doubt on the 2020 election by alleging, without any evidence, that mail-in ballots that have increased in popularity because of the coronavirus are fraudulent, illegal, and will cost him the election.

All kinds of claims were staked about Trump.
He is stupid. He is incompetent. He is Putin's puppet. He colluded with Russia. He is not a Republican. He is a fascist. He is a Nazi. He is a racist. He is a homophobe. He is a misogynist. He was a business failure. He will start wars. Blah, blah . . .

You have staked or regurgitated most of those claims. You are staking a claim in this post.

2) Advance and deny: Trump does this when he alludes to, without any specifics, what “other people are saying” or his allies suggest he’s only “asking questions” about subjects no responsible person would push into the public discussion. He fulfilled this step when he “asked the question” sure to grab attention this morning: “Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???”

"What other people say" has been a trick used against Trump for four years. Attention grabbing headlines against Trump have been concocted on an almost daily basis for four years.

3) Create suspense: You can bet that Trump will soon launch an “investigation”—whether through the Department of Justice, an allied media source, or some state’s friendly Republican secretary of state—regarding mail-in ballots to cast doubt on the process further. Doing so is designed to buy time for Trump also to sow chaos and trap his political enemies into making mistakes he can exploit. Typically, the said investigation’s findings never come, although Trump likes to promise they will be public in “two weeks.”

Trump has had numerous investigations launched against him for four years. And the promised results have yet to arrive.

4) Discredit opponents: While everyone awaits the sham investigation’s findings, Trump will find some targets to zero in on and instigate fights. When it comes to the election, this could be as high-profile as the Democratic ticket, or as obscure as county elections board members.

Discrediting Trump and his supporters has been standard procedure for four years along with the phony investigations

5) Claim victory: No matter the outcome of the election, Trump will claim that it was “rigged,” as he did the 2016 election that he won. If Trump wins this time around, he’ll say he should have won by more significant margins. If he loses, he will blame the mail-in ballots he’s been railing against since last spring.
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1197890)

Hillary still claims she won.

I pointed out actual Dem gaslighting in the previous post. You, as usual, conjecture some by Trump.

You are gaslighting. You are the creature you fear.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1197899)

Four more years

Ivanka 2024
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1198163)

Many states vote by mail, hey Trump votes by mail because he can’t get to his vacation home in Florida, so it’s only logical he should sue Nevada to prevent mail in voting. This man and his minions continue to attempt to prevent those they fear from voting, it’s to bad for them everyone who wants him out is going to risk life to cast a vote against him.

Oh wait Russia can’t hack a paper ballot, hummmm.

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1198163)

Many states vote by mail, .

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1198201)

you understand the difference between absentee ballots vs. the proposed mail in ballots right?

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1198201)

you understand the difference between absentee ballots vs. the proposed mail in ballots right?

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1197899)

Four more years

Ivanka 2024
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1198602)

How about this scenario, we received 4 mail in ballot requests. 1 for me, 1 for my wife, and 1 each for the kids. Neither kid lives at home but we got the forms mailed here. What's to stop me (other than being honest) from signing theirs and returning them and when I get the ballots doing the exact same thing? I can't be the only person out there facing this scenario.

As far as the local townies counting the ballots, they have no idea that they don't live with us anymore. Looks good to them.
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1198620)

Voter fraud carries severe penalties.

Are your kids still registered at your home address?

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1198602)

How about this scenario, we received 4 mail in ballot requests. 1 for me, 1 for my wife, and 1 each for the kids. Neither kid lives at home but we got the forms mailed here. What's to stop me (other than being honest) from signing theirs and returning them and when I get the ballots doing the exact same thing? I can't be the only person out there facing this scenario.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1198626)

The ballots have to be approved with a signature match or they're tossed. I think about 5 states do primarily mail in ballots with no issues.

I think the bigger concern is Trump brazenly trying to undermine a fair election, break the USPS and generally cause chaos. Are they any institutions he won't try and sacrifice for his own interests?

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1198632)

A signature match to the ballot application? If I sign both, they match.
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1197880)

Registered mail gets special, secure, treatment. I've had registered mail to me get lost and never found. Some found later after much searching and tracking.

I have a mail order business as a side source of income for many years. I've had to accept the fact that a small percentage of mail, to and from, would get lost, much would arrive at various times from late to on time. Sending anything by US mail is not an automatically sure thing. Courier services are far more reliable.

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1198601)

heres a question for the mail in voter fraud crowd or those who think the post office cant handle it..

Where do you think mail in ballots are sent? To be lost

heres My understanding they get sent to your local election boards . In the town where you live .and are counted my the same people who would cont the vote if you voted in person

Not some centralize mail in vote collection point ?
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1198620)

Voter fraud carries severe penalties.

Are your kids still registered at your home address?

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1198626)

The ballots have to be approved with a signature match or they're tossed. I think about 5 states do primarily mail in ballots with no issues.

I think the bigger concern is Trump brazenly trying to undermine a fair election, break the USPS and generally cause chaos. Are they any institutions he won't try and sacrifice for his own interests?

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1198829)

Sure you think that is the bigger concern. Obama's Pre-COVID USPS would, of course, handled it swimmingly. All problems started with Trump.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1198841)

Likely they would have needed some extra funding, that's exactly the opposite of denying funding with the express purpose of harming people's ability vote safely in a pandemic.

Next we're going to see Trump invite Chinese and Russian observers.