I don't know why I have to be upset more by one over the other, but in terms of actual damage and loss of life, the aftermath is larger--don't know if it's bigger.

I hope these big cities defund or disband their police departments as they are threatening to...that should be fun...I bet their tax base sticks around to find out what happens next


92 shot, 27 fatally, in Chicago's most violent weekend of 2020
Sun-Times Media Wire
Monday, June 1, 2020 10:31AM

CHICAGO -- 27 people were killed and at least 65 others were wounded by gun violence in Chicago's most violent weekend of the year so far
The latest fatal shooting happened Sunday night in West Garfield Park on the West Side.

Officers responding to a ShotSpotter alert for gunfire found the 18-year-old shot in the right side of her head at 10:51 p.m. in the 4200 block of West Van Buren Street, according to Chicago police. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

Another needle in a haystack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RILRdOPH4S0

Another needle in a haystack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAkY2tDQeGY

Another needle in a haystack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e1ld1uGpXA

Another needle in a haystack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXHxe6a1tuI

Now your needles have change tune to what no one has ever disputed there is a difference between a protester and a looter and rioter


but please keep up the suggestion supporting the protester equals not supporting the police or the acting as if Defunding the police is really going to happen , its like suggesting Trump one day will act like an adult it aint going to happen

Another needle in a haystack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk0Y6woydjk

Nobody is suggesting the police should be disbanded.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

No, but hundreds, at night, probably a similar amount more or less from hard right looking to stir crap up.

In the aftermath of Floyd's death, protesters are demanding that the cities defund the police, in some places cities are discussing JUST THAT.

For decades some agencies have been doing some reform (not enough in some places, probably adequate in others) . How do we balance people actually doing bad things (plenty of bad white people and black people doing illegal things)?.

But now, rather than having a look at how he died and how to address it, cities are going to eliminate parts of the police force. What is going to happen to those inner cities now with Cops reduced in number.


Wayne, what happens when they come for your job and demand the Union not protect members or even worse, remove security officers from positions altogether. What happens to the officers left?



Bullcrap. We are constantly hearing that it is totes legit to riot.

I have no idea of WTF you're talking about. I didn't say that supporting the protester equals not supporting the police. I didn't mention defunding the police.

Nor did I say that Trump doesn't act like an adult. A child or adolescent could not accomplish the things that Trump has. I'm just guessing, but I don't think you could either.

Who said that?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

ACLU of Minnesota
@ACLUMN
BREAKING: Minneapolis City Council members have announced their intent to disband the Minneapolis Police Department and invest in community-led public safety.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

CNBC
KEY POINTS

A majority of the members of the Minneapolis City Council said Sunday they support disbanding the city's police department.
That aggressive stance that comes just as the state has launched a civil rights investigation after George Floyd's death.

A majority of the members of the Minneapolis City Council said Sunday they support disbanding the city's police department.

Nine of the council's 12 members appeared with activists at a rally in a city park Sunday afternoon and vowed to end policing as the city currently knows it. Council member Jeremiah Ellison promised that the council would "dismantle" the department.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

That should work out well :rolleyes:
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

NEWSWEEK
U.S.

LA Mayor Faces Backlash For Defunding Police With $150 Million Budget Cut

BY DANIEL VILLARREAL ON 6/5/20 AT 9:55 PM EDT

They’re just proposing restructuring, not eliminating all law enforcement.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Defunding doesn’t mean ending police, it means limiting law enforcement functions. Most cops agree they shouldn’t be 1st responders for mental health crisis or school discipline, roles they’ve been brought into. This is an opportunity to transform.

And yet there were no problems and no arrests. Perhaps the terrorists were just having a nice late night game of bocci.

sounds like a simple restructure to me...


Sun 7 Jun 2020

The Minneapolis city council has pledged to disband the city’s police department and replace it with a new system of public safety, a historic move that comes as calls to defund law enforcement are sweeping the US.

Speaking at a community rally on Sunday, a veto-proof majority of council members declared their intent to “dismantle” and “abolish” the embattled police agency

this is from the Allie's Doughnuts thread....which has been interesting to watch

Cleo Yeets- I support change, such as defunding and abolishing the police :) they're useless murderers that hide behind a badge, it is the epitome of cowardice

James Chofay- and who will stop crime?

Cleo Yeets- volunteer community defense
Cops uphold an institution, they work for the upper class, not the people

James Chofay- so what about military? Abolish them too?

Cleo Yeets- absolutely, they're an overglorified oil company that gets paid to kill brown kids


so apparently the "woke" plan is to eliminate the police and military and replace them with a "volunteer military defense"....or "militia" I suppose....:huh:

Pretty strong argument when you're key exhibit is some is a random person at a donut shop.

it's a view....as relevant as your or mine

:bl:

You're taking the words "Abolish" and "Disband" out of context.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

No, they're just saying abolish the bad practices. It's a cardboard sign, not a policy proposal.

he's trying his best to make no sense :D

Defund and the green new deal get the same overblown responses . Not surprising.. fear of change runs deep in that party
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

What's so overblown about disagreeing? You disagree a lot.

omg a budget cut now equals defunding ... the militarization of the police is the biggest issue and if you think they haven't been you haven't been paying attention..

Look at the crowds in the Streets across the country people are Tired of police who can shoot an un armed person and get away with it keep their jobs get promoted by just uttering I was in fear for my life I thought they had a weapon ..

Ive said this before we had more restraint in Iraq and rules of engagement where if my men or wanted to kill an Iraqi.. i thought he had a wepon wasnt going to fly...

Police officers job is inherently dangerous they have about the same chance being killed in their patrol car as the do being shot

30 years working in a prison seen use of force change with every new head of corrections and Governor, have been dealing with video for 15 years ..

The police had a chance to be involved with body cameras some embraced them others did not same with a tazer some use them as an additional tool others a short cut justifed in a report. But now people are watching. Demanding those who enforce the law shouldn't be above it or given special status to dispense it as the wish ... and if you feel equally upset over the death of floyd at the hands of law enforcement and the riots .. thats the problem because the 2 are not the same in .just
my opinion
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device