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Seek counseling immediately.
The system is flawed but you have issues a fishing board can't fix.
Let it go and get on with life.

i think every school should have a HUGE gardening program (ie for exercise)
as an OPTION rather than all this jogging around the town crap

where you grow food for the school cafeteria so it's picked fresh, eaten fresh
and building your own salad .....is the name of the game....instead of the slop
that resembles food served in a Prison. man i hate canned peas with a passion.
to develop a real understanding of what food is... not this bastardized over processed everything is a box of brownies mentality.

Nutritional awareness and or classes should be MANDATORY only because
the vitamin and or nutrient levels of food today IS HALF what it was 20 years ago. we are energy beings that need "live" food not dead food is my point.
we as a nation have entered into the hypersensitive to all chemicals... times.

WHEN you say food to a kid today they instantly have visions of a big mac or macaroni and cheese or PIZZA... never an apple just plucked off a tree
or a strawberry picked from a patch. PUMPkins are just for decoration and carving jack o lanterns or for SMASHING!!!! :doh:

I see a trend of kids becoming thrill seeking "jackass" junkies and that is all that matters to them...forever... and they just don't realize that every injury they inflict upon themselves recklessly (to show off) today will come back to haunt them later in Life. talk about medical programs and responsibility...
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I also think that FISHING should be officially recognized as a SPORT in schools
the same as basketball, football, and baseball and track is.....

Perception of time should be taught also ....because it changes dramatically as you age. Not one of you can say that you don't remember staring at one of those big round white wall clocks when you were in school watching the second hand move round in round in slow motion ....minutes seeming like hours.

and

How to best utilize your time as in: What can i accomplish in just ten minutes.

interesting enough is the sudden interest in the political race for the presidency of the USA that could be completely over run by the 18-21 year olds which is going to happen "eventually" and technology might just be the :key: to it happening.

whats next ..... BILLION dollar high schools? why not just strap them in a reclining chair...attach a neuro helmet and pump the education into their brains in one sitting. Schools Over ! go get a job now. bye :wave:

Oh man Fred, you nailed it.
A good coach can turn a young person around and sports teach lessons in
getting up and starting over. Good thing to get knocked on your
arse once in a while.

Ed, I said your argument was flawed because you gave reasons such as kids feeling inferior, injuries and deaths for not having school sponsored sports programs. But at the same time you said that they should be privatized. If they're that bad for kids, there should be no sports allowed anywhere.

And now that I see your real reason for not liking school sports, I realize you aren't going to change your mind. You had a traumatic experience in HS and blame it on the coach and sports program. It's a shame that you couldn't change the perception people had of you over the next couple years in school and move on. I agree about seeking counseling. This is something you should have gotten past years ago and to let it still bother you this much isn't good for your well-being.

Thanks for your compassion but this site does have different areas for conversations just like this. You may or may not agree with how I see the world but you haven't walked in my shoes either. My personal experiences have shaped my mind and allow me to discuss issues openly which I think adds to the site. Should I refrain from posting my opinion in the future just to satiate the ones who don't agree with my perspective? I have a feeling some people do agree with me but consider posting the equivalent of touching the third rail, I say speak your mind and stand with your convictions.

What difference does it make whether a juvenile plays competitive sports where they are being trained to beat the other person as opposed to being taught to work with others through conditioning? Competitive sports teaches aggression and aggression isn't always a good thing, it's time to break the cycle.

This discussion has morphed into judging me rather than the issue of the cost associated with competitive sports in public schools and the impact of competitive sports on juveniles both from a physical and psychological perspective.

I only said it could be privatized to allow for flexibility realizing perhaps my experiences have influenced me and extremes such as total elimination of competitive sports might be unreasonable.
Once again my issue was the cost involved with these programs and my belief that something needs to change; isn't that what the populous voted for....change:biglaugh: Without discussions we don't move forward, stop worrying about me and get back to the issue of the cost of competitive sports.

jeezus, I agree with you.
ROckfish - those life skills you noted should be taught by the parents, not school. Its my job to teach them to cook, manage money, etc. I also think its my job to reinforce reading, math etc.
as for the original post, i have no idea what problem this would solve. Im not a sports guy but encourage my kids to play. its good for them, I want them to get knocked down and defeated. Its not handling success that builds charcter, its handling failure. I think competitive sports build that.

[QUOTE=ecduzitgood;910944]Thanks for your compassion but this site does have different areas for conversations just like this. You may or may not agree with how I see the world but you haven't walked in my shoes either. My personal experiences have shaped my mind and allow me to discuss issues openly which I think adds to the site. Should I refrain from posting my opinion in the future just to satiate the ones who don't agree with my perspective? I have a feeling some people do agree with me but consider posting the equivalent of touching the third rail, I say speak your mind and stand with your convictions.



What difference does it make whether a juvenile plays competitive sports where they are being trained to beat the other person as opposed to being taught to work with others through conditioning? Competitive sports teaches aggression and aggression isn't always a good thing, it's time to break the cycle.





You have to get past the scars,whether real or imagined.I am participating in the discussion and that is my advice. The fact that nobody has agreed with you speaks volumes regarding your unique perspective.There is no shame in seeking help,but if you decide not to I am afraid the scars won't heal and there will be nobody to blame but yourself.Good Luck and Happy New Year.

Builds character
 

These characters
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Soccer Fans Out of Control In Europe - TIME

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/sports/09...taples-center/

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These are just a few incidents and don't forget Victoria Snelgrove was a victim also.

Do I have to list players next?

You actually think that because there are a bunch of instances where someone did something stupid at a sporting event, all school sports should be replaced? Besides the fact that you listed pro and college sporting events, do you have any idea how many school athletic events there are around the country on any given day, never mind over the course of an entire school year? How many HS sporting event have you gone to in your life where a referee was attacked or there was a riot? Never mind that you posted about mostly fan issues, not the athletes. Please, listen to Sea Dangles and get some professional help.

I asked my son, who is a senior in High School right now whether they should do away with Sports at School.

His response "I don't play Sports and I don't really follow Sports, but thats a Bad Idea"

I asked Him Why.

He said "Well, its good to compete for things, the kids are leaning team work, and It teaches you that you don't win all the time but you keep trying til you do"

I think he's Spot On....

Five Things You Can Learn From Playing Sports

Sports can be good for a lot of things and this includes having fun, being with friends, and excelling at something you are good at. But there are many lessons that can be learned from playing sports as well and you should be well aware of these lessons so that you can look out for them.

By looking out for these lessons, it means that you will be more aware of the things that you are learning and knowing what is lacking in yourself as a person. Here are some lessons you can take with you just by playing sports.

• Learn about health – You will only really know about your physical health and condition if you do something physical like getting involved in sports. While playing a particular sport, you will learn how to keep yourself in top shape, according to the demands of that sport. You will also learn about diets and how to make yourself stronger, faster, and more acute to certain physical things that you were not aware of before. This is something that will ensure you great physical health and this is one major reason that you should get into sports.

• Learn about objectives – The one thing about sports is that there is always a goal and that is how to succeed in the sport by playing it right. This is something that you can bring along with you in the real world. There are certain objectives in life that you must discern for yourself. The lesson you can take from different sports is that you must focus on those objectives and strive to achieve them as diligently as you can.

• Learn to enjoy success – When you win a game in a particular sport, you are never sad. In fact, this is the cause for great celebration. This is another lesson that you can bring with you into your real life. When you succeed at something, make sure that you celebrate and be happy about it; don't be grumpy and get greedy for more.

• Learn that you can lose – Since you can win, you must understand that you can also lose as well. Losing should not be taken as something negative; it should help you to strive even further and to push yourself to be better. This is something that sports can teach you because in sports, when you lose, you improve the way you perform and you can try again to win. This is something that you should also do in your real life as well.

• Learn about teamwork – Many sports involve more than just one or two players. This is important because each person in a team in sports thinks differently and performs differently. You learn to work with each other's strengths and improve on each other's weaknesses. This is the kind of mentality that you can bring to your real life as well as at work and even at home. Good teamwork is something that will help everybody in a group or team to achieve success.

Most of those incidents he listed were fans...not the athletes too...Maybe if they actually played the sport they may have behaved better.

In my town the only sports that involve school are grades 9-12, all other sports are town affiliated leagues which we pay for. So in theory we are talking 4 years, the competitive drive/ character issues start way before high school. In my eyes they started at tball..and they increase as the childs league/skill level increases. That being said it starts in other leagues that have nothing to do with school which are "private" and not funded by money used for education. I pay to have my son play whatever he wants to.

Only competitive sports can teach these thing? Why not sports that have no potential to cause injuries?

Once again though, my original intent was to reduce the cost to the taxpayer and realocate the monies spent on something a little less confrontational. How about conditionig and billiards for instance.

Went to my oldest sons wrestling event in Marshfield yesterday,it was held at the high school on vacation week with around 20 towns represented.Yeah they try to beat eachother but most importantly they shook hands after every fight regardless of outcome. Some kids were upset they lost but the coaches made sure there was good sportsmanship.The fact that girls were competing was a surprise. Even more of a surprise was seeing a child with Downs syndrome competing with his peers. My sons second match was against a physically disabled youth who also had the courage to compete despite a legitimate handicap he has endured since birth.His appearance alone made me cringe but he submitted my boy in the 1st round. I have never been so proud. Thank goodness for school sports and the opportunities it provides the winners and losers alike.If that is not a life lesson then what is.

I'll bet most of them played competitive sports when they were in school.

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I'm sure you folks who are avid sports fans can think of many pro's that aren't good characters. If it builds such good character why even have drug testing for atheletes???

Why have drug testing for Home Depot employees? Do you ever look in the police log in the local paper? Do you think that the majority of criminals played HS sports and that's why they turned to crime?

And saying "I bet those fans played sports" is lame and a cop out. I could just as easily say I bet many of those NFL players who commit crimes went to church as kids. That must be why they turned out the way they did.

I just don't get why you have to beat this dead horse. We get it, you were embarrassed by a coach and had your feelings hurt by some of your teamates, but by and large, most HS sports programs are well run and benefits the kids and by extension the parents.

We started sliding down this slope when most if not all schools eliminated gym.

You have every reason to be proud.

There has to be a better way to teach what competitive sports teaches without the cost that goes along with competitive sports, both from a school budget perspective and the prevention of injuries to the students.
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Ban driver ed. too. A lot of those kids eventually get into a car crash.

Art can't be good,didn't Fawn Liebowitz die in a kiln explosion?

Music? more druggies coming down the pipeline.Ban it.

Sewing!!! see Numbskull for evidence to outlaw.

Woodshop can only lead to injuries also.

Yep, good memory.

-spence

We might as well just institute a New School Uniform...

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