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RIROCKHOUND 11-17-2011 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 900931)
my personal opinion is that if someone can't be honest in the most basic arrangement, marriage, and can "cheat" on their spouse and then look them in the eye each day as if nothing is happening and cause the kind of pain that follows when the truth comes to light, then they are likely capable of much worse given power through an elected office..so, it is a problem for me when it is discovered about a candidate as much as and probably more so as if they cheated on their taxes, were involved in questionable dealings or with dubious characters...it all goes to character ...

What if Newt is the nominee running against Obama...
Do you vote? or stay home?

scottw 11-17-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 900936)
What if Newt is the nominee running against Obama...
Do you vote? or stay home?

don't know, he's a serial cheater and therefore fundamentally dishonest with people that he loved enough to wed...if you are #3 do you really think "you're the one"?...not good, guess I'd have to determine who is more fundamentally dishonest...would be a tough call...:uhuh:

The Dad Fisherman 11-17-2011 07:11 PM

you can always do a write in....or vote libertarian

PaulS 11-18-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 900951)
I'd have to determine who is more fundamentally dishonest...would be a tough call...:uhuh:



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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 900975)
you can always do a write in....or vote libertarian

So rather than move the line on your morals, why not vote for a 3rd party as TDF said or don't vote for anyone for that position? What would Saul tell you to do?

Fly Rod 11-18-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 900936)
What if Newt is the nominee running against Obama...
Do you vote? or stay home?


VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!! :)

The lesser of two evils.

scottw 11-19-2011 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 901140)
So rather than move the line on your morals, why not vote for a 3rd party as TDF said or don't vote for anyone for that position? What would Saul tell you to do?

not sure how that is "moving the line on my morals", I said that it was a problem for me and is a factor along with a host of other factors when considering a candidate...

I believe, based on history that write-ins and third party are votes are essentially a non-vote and can result in the greater of two(or three) evils being elected, not voting is chosing to simply do nothing and is meaningless....we are faced with having to choose between the lesser of bad choices all of the time, doesn't mean you sit out and let things go to hell....

Saul would choose the Marxist Community Organizer...so I guess he'd tell me to vote for Obama:uhuh:

maybe the quality of candidates reflects the lack of expectations and the "they're all the same" attitude of many...if you just "expect" people to act a certain way(corrupt) and don't demand better...you usually get what you expect...we see it everywhere in our society...
I think someone referred to it as "the soft bigotry of low expectations"...which is interesting because some also would contend that we are experiencing an increasing "soft tyrrany" from those that we have elected


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