Originally Posted by striperman36 (Post 708723)

Well if you can't figure out why.....
They're vehicles are %$%$%$%$

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 708778)

I read last night that Obama is going to give a unprecedented nationwide talk to kids in school. Wonder if he's going to announce their new tax structure to pay for the clunkers program. :devil2:

Originally Posted by Raven (Post 708823)

just a ploy to insert a tracking device

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 708778)

I dunno Bill I went GM years ago and never looked back. Bought a cavalier and loved it. Lumina used, and I'll be buying another GM soon too. Was always Ford. My current is a 8500 lb van and it's the third gmc van I've owned. Drive it hard. Sold my first awd safari to a lawyer who continued to drive it to 300,000 miles. Bought the Savana and ran that thing alot. Sold it for good money to a woman in upstate Michigan to deliver newspapers. She's still running it at 230,000 miles last time I heard from her.

Just changed the tires on the van yesterday at 45k miles. Minimal maintenance on the van save an egr valve under warranty, brake turnings and one ball joint. Always 5k mile oil changes.

That doesn't tell me they suck. I can't say the same thing about all the Fords I worked on over the years.

Don't mean to hijack but am throwing my .02 in



I read last night that Obama is going to give a unprecedented nationwide talk to kids in school. Wonder if he's going to announce their new tax structure to pay for the clunkers program. :devil2:

Originally Posted by striperman36 (Post 708967)

Fuel mileage on US cars suck. I and don't like the ergonomics.
I got 188K out of the Dakota.
I am don't like the fact that I cant get a small diesel engine like the Volvos in the US that gets 60 mpg. better than the Prius.

Toyotas are great vehicles and if I could have gotten the diesel version I would have gotten one. As of now, you know I have the Jeep diesel from the only year they really worked, 2006.