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Pete F. 03-10-2022 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1224109)
Said no one ever.... Source?

Try Franklin Graham

Calling Vladimir Putin’s presence at the Olympics “commanding,” Graham chastised President Barack Obama and lauded the Russian president. “Isn’t it sad,” Graham wrote, “that America’s own morality has fallen so far that on this issue—protecting children from any homosexual agenda or propaganda—Russia’s standard is higher than our own?” As a bonus, Graham added, Putin was supporting the Assad regime in Syria in order to protect persecuted Christians. “In my opinion, Putin is right on these issues,” he wrote.

Say what you like about Vladimir Putin; he may be slaughtering innocent Ukrainians, but, on the plus side, he has never once called the Fox News anchor Tucker Carlson a racist. Last Tuesday, Carlson, who is reportedly paid $10m (£7.5m) a year for his piercing insights and analysis, told Americans that they had been brainwashed into thinking Putin was a baddie. Think critically, Carlson instructed his depressingly large audience. Ask yourself this, he posited: “Has Putin ever called me a racist? Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? … Is he making fentanyl? Is he trying to snuff out Christianity? Does he eat dogs? These are fair questions – and the answer to all of them is no.” To be clear: these are inane questions and the answer to all of them is: “Turn off Fox News before the rest of your brain turns to mush.”
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The Dad Fisherman 03-10-2022 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1224120)
Who said anything about the pandemic caused it?
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I did
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wdmso 03-11-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1224132)
I did
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So your comment had nothing to do with VPN’s increasing in Russia after they invaded Ukraine aka recently

thanks for the info from Aug 11 2021
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The Dad Fisherman 03-11-2022 08:58 AM

No, my comment had to do with VPN’s increasing in Russia due to the changing telework requirements caused by the Pandemic. Which explains why the huge increase in VPN’s. I also provided a link that supported my claim.

I know I could have just posted it in the format that you use for your usual gibberish and innuendo, with the BS flag emoji and finished it off with “Shocking” to seal the deal. But I tried a different approach :rolleyes:
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wdmso 03-11-2022 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1224144)
No, my comment had to do with VPN’s increasing in Russia due to the changing telework requirements caused by the Pandemic. Which explains why the huge increase in VPN’s. I also provided a link that supported my claim.

I know I could have just posted it in the format that you use for your usual gibberish and innuendo, with the BS flag emoji and finished it off with “Shocking” to seal the deal. But I tried a different approach :rolleyes:
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Like I said your response is irrelevant to to what I posted

The 1000% increase I referred to .
Was since the invasion

Where is that incorrect?

I am sure they (vpns) during the. Pandemic, increase but for different reasons not as a result of Russia invasion and increased sate restrictions on content
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wdmso 03-11-2022 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1224109)
Said no one ever.... Source?

I saw this looking for sources also. seems Putin’s make over has been happening slowly overtime to a point where many Republicans will call Democrats communist and socialist!
Then praise Putin or use him to criticize their ownPOTUS for political points

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/c...ns-like-putin/

That's why Republican culture-warrior Pat Buchanan declared Putin "one of us" in 2013, when Putin instituted new prohibitions on "propaganda" by homosexuals. "While his stance as a defender of traditional values has drawn the mockery of Western media and cultural elites, Putin is not wrong in saying that he can speak for much of mankind," Buchanan wrote.
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wdmso 03-11-2022 09:20 AM

Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.) recently called Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky a “thug” and said the Ukrainian government is “incredibly evil,”

Seems he is still upset Ukraine didn’t give Trump the Dirt he wanted?

What else could it Be. Unless he actually thinks Putins de nazifying Ukraine
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Jim in CT 03-11-2022 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1224147)
Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.) recently called Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky a “thug” and said the Ukrainian government is “incredibly evil,”

Seems he is still upset Ukraine didn’t give Trump the Dirt he wanted?

What else could it Be. Unless he actually thinks Putins de nazifying Ukraine
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Wayne, when you (1) ignore every bad thing your side does, and (2) ignore every good thing the right does, that must make you feel very very content. But is it an accurate way to evaluate things?

Cawthorn is an extremist to be sure.

Democratic Rep Hank Johnson said he was concerned about building a military base on Guam, because the island could tip over. What's your comment on that?

Maxine Waters said Americans should hound those in Trumps cabinet to let them know they aren't welcome anywhere, anytime. Any comment?

Pete Buttigieg (who will likely be a presidential contender in 2024), says that for Americans struggling to pay $4.50 gallon at the pump, the answer is to buy an electric car.

Here's the reality, Wayne. There are a huge number of democrats, there are a huge number of Republicans. There are good and bad people on both sides, there are good and bad ideas on both sides. Among the strong lefties here, not a single one of you can concede that simple, and obvious, truth.

Anything to avoid discussing the multiple disasters and crises and failures of this administration.

Cawthorn is a huge disappointment, a kook.

wdmso 03-11-2022 10:31 AM

Cawthorn is a huge disappointment, a kook.

You could have started and finished with that.

Again get back to me when those people you mentioned try to overturn the election or promote civil war like 4 wheels has
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Pete F. 03-11-2022 10:59 AM

Deutsche Bank just doubled down on its decision to continue doing business in Russia despite Russia's invasion of Ukraine

DB was also the only bank that would lend to an obvious fraud, Donald Trump, and is notorious for Russian money laundering

Anyone at all surprised?

scottw 03-13-2022 03:00 PM

iran is apparently scared of brandon too....china must be terrified

Pete F. 03-13-2022 07:17 PM

Mitt Romney: “Tulsi Gabbard is parroting false Russian propaganda. Her treasonous lies may well cost lives.”
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scottw 03-13-2022 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1224251)
Mitt Romney: “Tulsi Gabbard is parroting false Russian propaganda. Her treasonous lies may well cost lives.”
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they should arrest her for treason....

wdmso 03-13-2022 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1224251)
Mitt Romney: “Tulsi Gabbard is parroting false Russian propaganda. Her treasonous lies may well cost lives.”
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Like is pointed out she was on Tucker Carlson show spewing the same thing
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scottw 03-13-2022 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1224256)
Like is pointed out she was on Tucker Carlson show spewing the same thing
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they should both be arrested....

scottw 03-13-2022 09:56 PM

The New York Times
Russian Invasion Could Spur Covid Surge in Ukraine, Doctors Say



oh good,,,brandon can send them Made in China masks and test kits

Jim in CT 03-14-2022 05:40 AM

wdmso, how do you interpret the fact that saudi arabia and the UAE refused to take phone calls from Biden? I thought Biden was going to be the one that got the world to stand behind us again?

Let me guess. they were too intimidated by his vast intellect, so they’re avoiding him? Is that what it is?
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nightfighter 03-14-2022 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1224156)
Deutsche Bank just doubled down on its decision to continue doing business in Russia despite Russia's invasion of Ukraine

DB was also the only bank that would lend to an obvious fraud, Donald Trump, and is notorious for Russian money laundering

Anyone at all surprised?

Citibank still operating in Russia.... Right up there with Bank of America as top two banks screwing American public.

wdmso 03-14-2022 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1224269)
wdmso, how do you interpret the fact that saudi arabia and the UAE refused to take phone calls from Biden? I thought Biden was going to be the one that got the world to stand behind us again?

Let me guess. they were too intimidated by his vast intellect, so they’re avoiding him? Is that what it is?
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Once again you chase the laser pointer

The world is with America

Saudi and the UAE. The size of Maine do not represent the world


Persian Gulf monarchies have signaled they won’t help ease surging oil prices unless Washington supports them in Yemen or grant the Saudi king immunity for killing
Khashoggi


The White House unsuccessfully tried to arrange calls between President Biden and the de facto leaders of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates as the U.S. was working to build international support for Ukraine and contain a surge in oil prices, said Middle East and U.S. officials.

So Biden spoke to him a few weeks ago , https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...-saudi-arabia/

Funny Jim now you and conservatives are using another oppressive leader who kills journalists. To disparage the POTUS
Sounds about right



Yet You people can’t make up your minds your upset he called Saudi to increase oil . And upset they didn’t pick up the phone?

Maybe that’s what happens when Biden wants to hold them accountable for killing of Khashoggi

Then you have The lie Republicans keep repeating

America can easily replace #PutinOil by producing more of our own,” said Marco Rubio but suggesting Biden controls production

FYI. Guess who ask Saudi to increase oil production

U.S. President Donald Trump said he asked Saudi Arabia to significantly boost its oil production, ratcheting up pressure on Riyadh to help ease fast-rising crude prices.
June 30

and no Republicans told Trump just pump more oil..

so American oil couldn’t just pump more oil in 2018 but they can in 2022

Then he ask them to cut production

Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support - sources

Trump bragged that he protected the Saudi crown prince from consequences in the United States after the assassination of Khashoggi in October 2018,

must be hyperbole thank god it’s not curing cancer

Seems many suffer from historical amnesia
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Jim in CT 03-14-2022 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1224273)
Once again you chase the laser pointer

The world is with America

Saudi and the UAE. The size of Maine do not represent the world


Persian Gulf monarchies have signaled they won’t help ease surging oil prices unless Washington supports them in Yemen or grant the Saudi king immunity for killing
Khashoggi


The White House unsuccessfully tried to arrange calls between President Biden and the de facto leaders of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates as the U.S. was working to build international support for Ukraine and contain a surge in oil prices, said Middle East and U.S. officials.

So Biden spoke to him a few weeks ago , https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...-saudi-arabia/

Funny Jim now you and conservatives are using another oppressive leader who kills journalists. To disparage the POTUS
Sounds about right



Yet You people can’t make up your minds your upset he called Saudi to increase oil . And upset they didn’t pick up the phone?

Maybe that’s what happens when Biden wants to hold them accountable for killing of Khashoggi

Then you have The lie Republicans keep repeating

America can easily replace #PutinOil by producing more of our own,” said Marco Rubio but suggesting Biden controls production

FYI. Guess who ask Saudi to increase oil production

U.S. President Donald Trump said he asked Saudi Arabia to significantly boost its oil production, ratcheting up pressure on Riyadh to help ease fast-rising crude prices.
June 30

and no Republicans told Trump just pump more oil..

so American oil couldn’t just pump more oil in 2018 but they can in 2022

Then he ask them to cut production

Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support - sources


Seems many suffer from historical amnesia
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i asked you how you interpreted it, seems like a benign question.

i don’t need to disparage Biden. He does it to himself.
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wdmso 03-14-2022 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1224274)
i asked you how you interpreted it, seems like a benign question.

i don’t need to disparage Biden. He does it to himself.
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I lay it out for .. only you are looking for hidden meanings

I am sure Saudi and UAE are happy with the price of oil , and they can’t condemn Russia while doing the same thing in Yemen , Big picture
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Jim in CT 03-14-2022 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1224275)
I lay it out for .. only you are looking for hidden meanings

I am sure Saudi and UAE are happy with the price of oil , and they can’t condemn Russia while doing the same thing in Yemen , Big picture
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you laid out your spin, and you act as if it’s objective fact.

of course they can condemn russia while doing the same thing, that’s what immoral dictators do.
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Pete F. 03-14-2022 10:29 AM

NEW: leaked Kremlin docs asking Tucker, Gabbard and Greenwald to tone it down a bit to be a little more credible
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PaulS 03-14-2022 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1224271)
Citibank still operating in Russia.... Right up there with Bank of America as top two banks screwing American public.

Koch industries said they have no plans on leaving Russia.

wdmso 03-14-2022 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1224277)
you laid out your spin, and you act as if it’s objective fact.

of course they can condemn russia while doing the same thing, that’s what immoral dictators do.
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you laid out your spin, and you act as if it’s objective fact.

it is fact not spin , do some research All what I posted

So what about Donald Trump he asked Saudi Arabia to significantly boost its oil production, ratcheting up pressure on Riyadh to help ease fast-rising crude prices.


Didn't see republicans saying anything then But Know OMG

Jim in CT 03-14-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1224288)

So what about Donald Trump he asked Saudi Arabia to significantly boost its oil production, ratcheting up pressure on Riyadh to help ease fast-rising crude prices.


Didn't see republicans saying anything then But Know OMG

Was gas ever this high when Trump was POTUS?

Talk about false equivalency you accuse me of!

Pete F. 03-15-2022 08:23 PM

Russia has sanctioned a bunch of Biden administration officials, which makes sense, because the Biden administration is the one sanctioning Russia. But, for some reason, Russia also sanctioned...Hillary Clinton. But not Donald Trump. I wonder why.
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detbuch 03-15-2022 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1224340)
Russia has sanctioned a bunch of Biden administration officials, which makes sense, because the Biden administration is the one sanctioning Russia. But, for some reason, Russia also sanctioned...Hillary Clinton. But not Donald Trump. I wonder why.
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Heavens to Betsy!

PaulS 03-15-2022 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1224340)
Russia has sanctioned a bunch of Biden administration officials, which makes sense, because the Biden administration is the one sanctioning Russia. But, for some reason, Russia also sanctioned...Hillary Clinton. But not Donald Trump. I wonder why.
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Clinton tweeted that she would like to thank the Russian Academy for the Lifetime Achievement Award. Lol
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scottw 03-16-2022 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1224345)
Clinton tweeted that she would like to thank the Russian Academy for the Lifetime Achievement Award. Lol
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probably happy to have finally won something....

The Dad Fisherman 03-16-2022 05:13 AM

Glad to see she finally shattered that glass ceiling :hee:
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spence 03-16-2022 06:12 PM

Well, at least Ukraine didn't escalate over the past week :eek:

Pete F. 03-17-2022 01:14 AM

Seems like it’s easy for GOP lawmakers to support Zelensky now. the war is horrific, constituents are upset, they can pressure a Democratic president

hard when it meant holding Trump accountable for delaying military aid to extort him for political favors

247 of 248 wouldn't

just Mitt Romney
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detbuch 03-17-2022 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1224392)

Trump accountable . . .delaying military aid to extort him for political favors

Sometimes, often, you're like a broken R2D2 who's radio emissions are stuck on and keep emitting the same stupid useless message . . .

Jim in CT 03-17-2022 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1224392)
Seems like it’s easy for GOP lawmakers to support Zelensky now. the war is horrific, constituents are upset, they can pressure a Democratic president

hard when it meant holding Trump accountable for delaying military aid to extort him for political favors

247 of 248 wouldn't

just Mitt Romney
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but when biden threatened to withhold aid unless ukraine fired a prosecutor, that’s ok?
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Pete F. 03-17-2022 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1224408)
but when biden threatened to withhold aid unless ukraine fired a prosecutor, that’s ok?
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While former Vice President Joe Biden oversaw foreign policy in Ukraine, his son Hunter Biden served on the board of Burisma Holdings, the largest gas company in the fledgling democracy.

Despite a recently concluded investigation by Senate Republicans that found no wrongdoing by the Bidens, claims to the contrary have continued to circulate on social media.
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Jim in CT 03-17-2022 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1224411)
While former Vice President Joe Biden oversaw foreign policy in Ukraine, his son Hunter Biden served on the board of Burisma Holdings, the largest gas company in the fledgling democracy.

Despite a recently concluded investigation by Senate Republicans that found no wrongdoing by the Bidens, claims to the contrary have continued to circulate on social media.
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did biden threaten to withhold
aid from ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor?
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Pete F. 03-17-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1224411)

The claim: Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion from Ukraine to assist his son, Hunter Biden

While former Vice President Joe Biden oversaw foreign policy in Ukraine, his son Hunter Biden served on the board of Burisma Holdings, the largest gas company in the fledgling democracy.

Despite a recently concluded investigation by Senate Republicans that found no wrongdoing by the Bidens, claims to the contrary have continued to circulate on social media.
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wdmso 03-17-2022 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1224417)
did biden threaten to withhold
aid from ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor?
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wow your back in deep with the conspiracy theories

Care to tell US Why he threatened to withhold Aid?/ its no secret

I'll Wait

Jim in CT 03-17-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1224421)
wow your back in deep with the conspiracy theories

Care to tell US Why he threatened to withhold Aid?/ its no secret

I'll Wait

Your first sentence seems to suggest that Biden didn't actually threaten to withhold aid, and that I'm engaging in conspiracy theories. Then your next sentence seems to suggest that everyone knows Biden threatened to withhold aid.

You asked if I could say why he threatened to withhold aid. Here's my post you responded to:


"did biden threaten to withhold aid from ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor?"

WDMSO, when you read that sentence, it's not crystal clear why I believe Biden threatened to withhold aid?

You might want to get an MRI.

Biden threatened to withhold national aid to Ukraine, unless they fired a prosecutor we claim was corrupt. It's worth withholding aid to a nation to get rid of one corrupt lawyer?


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