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wdmso 10-30-2020 02:18 PM

TRUMP sees laura Ingram with a mask on makining fun of her. Calling her wearing one politically correct..

Or Jr telling her like no ones dying of covid

If 1000 americans died a day from Islamic terrorist would Trump and Trump jr suggest , almost no ones dying?
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Jim in CT 10-30-2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204208)
Reacting to comments Pelosi made, pretty sure she isn't in charge of the white house or NY.

You didn't limit your remark to Pelosi. You said the liberals I attacked weren't in charge.

Was Gov Cuomo the chief executive of NY when he ordered nursing homes to admit covid-positive residents?

What did Trump force people to do, which caused more deaths, than what Cuomo forced nursing homes to do?

HAVE FUN ANSERING THAT.

Got Stripers 10-30-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204240)
You didn't limit your remark to Pelosi. You said the liberals I attacked weren't in charge.

Was Gov Cuomo the chief executive of NY when he ordered nursing homes to admit covid-positive residents?

What did Trump force people to do, which caused more deaths, than what Cuomo forced nursing homes to do?

HAVE FUN ANSERING THAT.

Have fun answering why the messaging still to this day, with record numbers of new cases, continues to be outright lies and dangerous. Cuomo was presented with extreme conditions and overloaded hospitals and since I am not educated on all the details and parameters he had to consider, all I can say is I hope he had little choice. You keep looking for a win on this Covid issue, what could poor Trump have done differently, good god Jim how about NEVER lying to the American public. He has done so from the start (5 soon to be zero) and continues today, my arse we have turned the corner; I’m expected to just live with the virus and his ineptitude.

Pete F. 10-30-2020 03:12 PM

Today in one speech, Covita has:
- Called mask use "politically correct"
- Falsely claimed we're turning some corner
- Falsely claimed spike in cases is just more testing
- Dismissed importance of cases in young people
- Accused doctors of inflating death toll to get "more money"

But he's OK and he has your best interests at heart, or is it not his responsibility at all.

Detbuch enters stage left:

scottw 10-30-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204245)

I’m expected to just live with the virus.

yes, until there is a vaccine you don't have much of a choice unless you want to lock yourself in your basement ...maybe do things to improve your immune system and overall health so you have a better chance at a good outcome if you do get it....we always hear about how fat and unhealthy Americans are as a whole.....that has sure shown up in the numbers

you should thank trump for fast tracking the vaccine effort.....

Jim in CT 10-30-2020 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204245)
Have fun answering why the messaging still to this day, with record numbers of new cases, continues to be outright lies and dangerous. Cuomo was presented with extreme conditions and overloaded hospitals and since I am not educated on all the details and parameters he had to consider, all I can say is I hope he had little choice. You keep looking for a win on this Covid issue, what could poor Trump have done differently, good god Jim how about NEVER lying to the American public. He has done so from the start (5 soon to be zero) and continues today, my arse we have turned the corner; I’m expected to just live with the virus and his ineptitude.

You want to say he lied, fine, it's fair to hold him accountable. But tell me how his lies caused deaths?

"Cuomo was presented with extreme conditions and overloaded hospitals"

WHAT? The feds sent a massive hospital ship to NYC which wasn't needed. The feds converted the Javitts center to a hospital, and it wasn't needed.

What the actual f*ck are you talking about?

"I am not educated on all the details and parameters he had to consider"

No kidding! Yet with incomplete knowledge, you conclude that Cuomo did nothing wrong, and that Trump has 200,000 deaths on his hands.

Jim in CT 10-30-2020 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204249)
Today in one speech, Covita has:
- - Falsely claimed we're turning some corner
-:

death rates are dropping. Is that not significant? Or are death statistics only meaningful to you, when you can use them against Trump?

Pete F. 10-30-2020 03:49 PM

Actually a vaccine is one part of the recommendations in the Pandemic Playbook that Covita threw in the trash.
If you read it you can easily see what was not done.
Now think what an aggressive approach to virus containment like South Korea did would have done for us, I'll let you do the math.

USA
Population 328 Million
Infected 9 Million
Dead 230 Thousand

South Korea
Population 52 Million
Infected 26 thousand
Dead 463 NO thousands

Both US and SK had first cases same day.

SK next day initiated public private partnership to fight the coming pandemic.

Covita didn't want to panic anyone..........

https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...c-Playbook.pdf

Got Stripers 10-30-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204257)
You want to say he lied, fine, it's fair to hold him accountable. But tell me how his lies caused deaths?

"Cuomo was presented with extreme conditions and overloaded hospitals"

WHAT? The feds sent a massive hospital ship to NYC which wasn't needed. The feds converted the Javitts center to a hospital, and it wasn't needed.

What the actual f*ck are you talking about?

"I am not educated on all the details and parameters he had to consider"

No kidding! Yet with incomplete knowledge, you conclude that Cuomo did nothing wrong, and that Trump has 200,000 deaths on his hands.

Here Jim see if you can understand this, I don’t care to research want happened in NY, I live in Mass and while I sympathize for their lives lost, I don’t care. What the f*ck does what Cuomo did have anything to do with Trumps incompetence, oh let me answer for you absolutely nothing.

Jim in CT 10-30-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204260)
Here Jim see if you can understand this, I don’t care to research want happened in NY,.

So with admittedly no clue what happened, you nonetheless conclude that Trump caused it all.

Brilliant.

Got Stripers 10-30-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204261)
So with admittedly no clue what happened, you nonetheless conclude that Trump caused it all.

Brilliant.

Are you dense, or just so obsessed with finding a Covid Trump win you read but don’t comprehend? NY has nothing to do with My opinion of Trumps handling of Covid and the messaging putting people at risk even today with all we know.

Pete F. 10-31-2020 07:19 AM

U.S. reports 100,000 coronavirus cases in 24 hours, setting world record
Sixteen states reported single-day records for new cases on Friday: Iowa, Kentucky, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Montana, Illinois, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Oregon, Kansas, Ohio, Colorado and Maine. And three states hit record deaths: Tennessee, Montana and New Mexico.
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scottw 10-31-2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204278)
U.S. reports 100,000 coronavirus cases in 24 hours, setting world record
Sixteen states reported single-day records for new cases on Friday: Iowa, Kentucky, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Montana, Illinois, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Oregon, Kansas, Ohio, Colorado and Maine. And three states hit record deaths: Tennessee, Montana and New Mexico.
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it's easy to set records in the first season of the league...(actually, we haven't even had a full season of play yet)

London (CNN) Concern is mounting in Europe as countries smash records for daily coronavirus cases and the World Health Organization warns that the daily death toll on the continent could reach five times its April peak within months.

Got Stripers 10-31-2020 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204285)
it's easy to set records in the first season of the league...(actually, we haven't even had a full season of play yet)

London (CNN) Concern is mounting in Europe as countries smash records for daily coronavirus cases and the World Health Organization warns that the daily death toll on the continent could reach five times its April peak within months.

Yet countries with a strong national message and a population 100% on board with the plan to keep the virus in check are doing well, Australia a perfect example.

Pete F. 10-31-2020 09:50 AM

Europe is doing better. A lot better. Two European countries are ahead of the US in deaths/m. By the time you count 5-6 countries further, the death rate is half of US. And there are a lot more countries to count.

Your premise is flawed.
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scottw 10-31-2020 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204288)
Europe is doing better. A lot better. Two European countries are ahead of the US in deaths/m. By the time you count 5-6 countries further, the death rate is half of US. And there are a lot more countries to count.

Your premise is flawed.
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I didn't mention the death rate....

scottw 10-31-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204287)
Yet countries with a strong national message and a population 100% on board with the plan to keep the virus in check are doing well, Australia a perfect example.

it's not 100% in Australia and they are arresting "peaceful protestors"...is that what you'd like to see?....

wdmso 10-31-2020 01:48 PM

Trump fans possibly due to their denial of science or they just don't give a flying FK

Seem to not understand a low positivity rate equals things being open and
a resemblance or normalcy. Like school or inside dinning

they feel its easier to blame lockdowns On Government rather then taking any responsibility for their own or others behavior. But suggest hospitals and nurses are trying to make money Or a 25% POSITIVITY rate is a lie claiming more testing
Is the reason numbers are up, as if we stopped testing and just started again:deadhorse:

Pete F. 10-31-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204292)
I didn't mention the death rate....

Ya you did
“ the World Health Organization warns that the daily death toll”
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Jim in CT 10-31-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204278)
U.S. reports 100,000 coronavirus cases in 24 hours, setting world record
Sixteen states reported single-day records for new cases on Friday: Iowa, Kentucky, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Montana, Illinois, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Oregon, Kansas, Ohio, Colorado and Maine. And three states hit record deaths: Tennessee, Montana and New Mexico.
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what’s happening to death rates?
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scottw 10-31-2020 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204301)
what’s happening to death rates?
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pete doesn't even recognize the difference between daily death toll and death rates so this might be a stumper for him...he'll just find the highest number on the page and blame trump

Jim in CT 10-31-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204302)
.he'll just find the highest number on the page and blame trump

bingo.
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Got Stripers 10-31-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204301)
what’s happening to death rates?
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Jared said they are practically nothing, the parents, sons, daughters or grandparents of the 1000+ daily dead will be comforted to know the dead mean practically nothing. No empathy ever from this entire family, cold hearted sob’s.
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Jim in CT 10-31-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204306)
Jared said they are practically nothing, the parents, sons, daughters or grandparents of the 1000+ daily dead will be comforted to know the dead mean practically nothing. No empathy ever from this entire family, cold hearted sob’s.
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i asked what happened to death rates. i asked, because they are dropping. you can’t concede that, until biden is sworn in, then watch how you all do a 180. shocker.
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Jim in CT 10-31-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204306)
No empathy ever from this entire family, cold hearted sob’s.
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why do they support school
choice and criminal justice reform? his is not a family that uses public schools, so it necessarily means they have empathy to advocate school
choice.

why did trump increase funding for black colleges? remember it was biden, it trump, who claimed to go to a black college.
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Got Stripers 10-31-2020 03:56 PM

Big deal, their character is flawed every one, Jim I know you will defend them to the end, I can’t wait to see that family go back to reality TV where they belong.
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wdmso 10-31-2020 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204308)
why do they support school
choice and criminal justice reform? his is not a family that uses public schools, so it necessarily means they have empathy to advocate school
choice.

why did trump increase funding for black colleges? remember it was biden, it trump, who claimed to go to a black college.
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School choice is a scam it has nothing to do with helping inner-city kids

Its smoke show to get federal and state funds to pay for religous schools and private schools
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Jim in CT 10-31-2020 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204309)
Big deal, their character is flawed every one, Jim I know you will defend them to the end, I can’t wait to see that family go back to reality TV where they belong.
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we can’t all have perfect character like biden who is a plagiarist a liar with a rape charge against him and credible charges of corruption, and harris who sucked her way to the top in san francisco. yes sir, the party that worships bill clinton, who could spit in a petri dish and start a whole new civilization, has a lot to lecture me about character.

spare me the empty, fake concern for character.
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Jim in CT 10-31-2020 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204311)
School choice is a scam it has nothing to do with helping inner-city kids

Its smoke show to get federal and state funds to pay for religous schools and private schools
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oh! that’s why poor people want it??!!
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Jim in CT 10-31-2020 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204311)
School choice is a scam it has nothing to do with helping inner-city kids

Its smoke show to get federal and state funds to pay for religous schools and private schools
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you don’t even know what school choice is. it’s not about diverting public money elsewhere, it’s about letting me use my money as i see fit to help my kids.

what a concept!!
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